“Tremendous” leadership on climate change?
It’s great that Al Gore was able to deliver his climate change slide show and discuss the issue with an audience of MPs and key business people this morning. Jeanette and Russel were there (although not Michael Cullen, who Jeanette thinks should have been).
I have great respect for Al Gore and An Inconvenient Truth, but I’m very concerned that he thinks the New Zealand Government is providing “tremendous” leadership on the issue. As far as I can tell all they’ve done is scrap a couple of useful policies and make sweeping claims about carbon-neutrality that they can’t back up.
Dealing with climate change is a lot more convenient than I thought, if that’s what Al Gore considers to be “tremendous” leadership!
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November 14th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Well, they’re saying it exists. Perhaps that enough for “leadership” these days.
Or perhaps he got confused and thought Jeanette and Russel were part of the government, after all.
November 14th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
I keep telling you folks, the USA knows about as much about NZ politics as a bird knows about ballistics. The “clean green” image will remain for a long time if we don’t muck it up too seriously. We did after all, sign on for Kyoto. That IS leadership… and far more than the US of A managed.
We also have an actual Green party with actual members in parliament. This is quite a novelty to an American.
Whether we can actually chew what we’ve bitten off remains to be seen.
respectfully
BJ
November 14th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
That our Govt is ‘talking the talk’ is a great start in my opinion. That AL Gore has reached the general public is a bonus.
I just hope that the ‘tipping point’ of public opinion will coincide with our coalition govt, and local authorities, rolling up their sleeves and making some very helpful, leadership decisions. Joy.
November 14th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
The government has done some small initiatives. E.g. the Projects to Reduce Emissions programme. This aimed to assign credits to renewable energy projects that were beyond business-as-usual. But it seems to me that added greenhouse gas emissions from growth in business-as-usual activities are swamping all of that. NZ’s GHG emissions have grown significantly since 1990.
I think that this govt’s climate change policies are weak. The much-vaunted but NIMTO carbon tax was a sad example. Go Greens!
November 14th, 2006 at 8:30 pm
i managed to hear hear al gore today…see the presentation
i’ve written about it…
a whoar scoop..!
all media were banned from the gathering…but whoar managed to slide in…
and great timing..as my ads start running on bfm breakfast tomorrow..
(hear the ghost of david lange..talking about david benson-pope..the early years…tee-hee..!..)..
and whoar is the sponsor of “government employee of the week”..a feature on bfm breakfast…
which is on at about 8.30 am (n z time)… on 95bfm…(available on-line..)
oh..and frog sniped a while back about my comments facility being turned off..
well..it’s on again…so people can now serve it up to me.at mine…eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Al Gore is recommending that those who are causing the problem of climate change treat the symptoms of it while they continue to be the cause of it. He is asking you to play God, thinking that he and those he invited to his costly conference are all-wise and all-powerful, when you are not.
The cause of climate change is that when the leaders of our nation in particular fail to obey God and pass statutes contrary to his 10 commandments, and lead the nation into error, then God stuffs the weather up for us to cause us to think why he is doing that, to turn us from our evil ways, that we might live happily now and for ever and not die the second death.
The simple fact is, God controls the weather, and unusually bad weather is a sign that God is punishing the nation for disobedience to his law in the same way that a loving human father punishes his children with the rod of correction if they act in a self destructive way and refuse to stop doing it by reason.
To prove that God controls the weather he says through Moses at Leviticus 26, “3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; 4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the feild shall yield their fruit”.
Do you people undertand that nothing is impossible to the Lord who made the angels, the universe and man, who even raised Jesus from the dead, and to whom controlling the weather is a small thing that he does to bless or curse us according to whether or not we keep his law of love, and which he does out of love for us to encourage us to walk in the path of life?
The cause of our climate problems is primarily legislation that is passed contrary to God’s perfect, eternal, and royal law of love (Rom. 13: 1-10), such as no fault divorce, (Mt. 19:1-9), abortion, which is a form of murder, homosexuality, which is an abomination to God and Remuneration Authority which inappropriately awards high rather than moderate salaries to our leaders. And no matter how much you people vainly try to patch up the weather problem, you are kicking against the pricks as long as you fail to undertsand that the way to control the weather is to make a friend and ally of our heavenly Father by doing his will, in which case he will benevolently control it for us.
As God said to Solomon at 2 Cr. 7, about what to do when the nation is faced by natural disasters, which includes bad weather: “13 If I shut up heaven, that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land”.
Accordingly, you might like to consider that the bad weather may have something to do with the young people being turfed out of pubs in Christchurch at 4.00am on Sunday morning and rioting in the streets, partly because they lack controls on their drinking habits from you people, as youths need limits set, and also because they lack a vision from their leaders’ example that if we all lived according to God’s commandments what a wonderful, peaceful and happy world it would be, and that it is God’s plan to create such a happy world in which we can live for ever as members of his own family under his law of love.
Therefore I recommend that you turn from your evil ways, which includes abusing god’s creation, planet earth, as God says at 2 Cron. 7:14, and set an example for the nation of living according to God’s law of love, and not making any laws contrary to God’s laws but only filling in the details he has left out, like which side of the road we shoud drive on and how much tax we should pay etc, and, in a truly scientific manner, see whether or not this action causes a reaction of God blessing us as a nation rather than cursing us as at present.
Praise God, for his mercy endureth for ever.
November 15th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
Brother Ron? This has to be a wind-up
Whatever it is, it looks to me like an even stronger reason to have an “ignore poster” button on this blog SW. (sigh)
BJ
November 15th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
brother ron..are you a ‘rapturist’..?
how long have we got..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
god is probably also pretty peeved with us at the way we’re destroying the environment, for instance with global warming
November 15th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
I heard that a prominent church leader in NZ has spoken publicly about his concern about climate change recently. I think that the environment is something that religious people should be thinking about; they should be thinking about how actions indirectly impact on others and future generations. It was good to know that a church leader has been talking about this kind of thing.
November 15th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
I agree with bj:
This HAS to be a wind up ! Surely ?
November 15th, 2006 at 11:53 pm
Brother Ron might be one of Dr Dunny Brush’s advisers.
November 16th, 2006 at 10:33 am
No, Prim, when I last met with the Brethren, they told me they don’t use internet technology. But sadly, they don’t meet with me any more - not since my little secret about Dianne came out.
November 16th, 2006 at 10:53 am
Actually, Brother Ron appears to have a better understanding of climate change than George Dubya or Dr Dunny Brush or some on this blog such as Mouldwarp. At least Brother Ron accepts that climate change is occurring and accepts that its causation is anthropogenic. He’s just a little confused as to the mechanism of causation.
November 16th, 2006 at 11:19 am
Next time I’ll read a newcomer’s contribution with more care …
Long live Dr Dunny Brush and his new offsider Brother Ron !!