by frog
The graffiti tribute to Rod above is apparently on the Evans Pass road down south. If you have seen any other out-there-in-the-world memorials, feel free to send pics to frogblog@greens.org.nz and I’ll post them up. 
Published in Parliament | Society & Culture by frog on Fri, November 25th, 2005
Tags: environment
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
So – do I get to be the first to suggest that someone should paint “Nandor” in the yellow or orange segment?
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Interesting – I could interpret this as :
Blue (National) – Moderate
Red (Labour) extreme
Green (Greens) low intelligence???
I like the comment from Edge – fits well
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but Nandor is only a very moderate toker, smoking for religious reasons only very occasionally, like every month or too, and he doesn’t drink. At any given time, any of the hypocritical smokin and drinkin MPs are more likely to be “High” than Nandor. And he is certainly not extreme in his views (for example nearly 40% of New Zealanders support cannabis decriminalisation) so that doesnae fit either. nyah nyah
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frog:
Hang on a minute … That sign is not “down south”, it is on the next hill to where I am typing this from.
(Another item a few days ago used the words “way down south”.)
Please always remember that GREENS are EVERYWHERE !
eredwen
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Eredwen: Greens may be omnipresent but frog is not. As it says above, I’m hopping along the corridors of power, which are in Welly.
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Edge:
Yes! Nandor in the yellow orange segment would be appropriate.
He is our Golden boy!
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petermck:
Sorry, but you missed the obvious …
LOW is for “low maintenance”
Greens make smaller ecological footprints on the Earth … We are careful and use less of the Earths’ resources because of the ways in which we choose to live.
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Frog
… and on wet days, “in your wellies” I asume?
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bloody graffittee
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c’mon eredwen….from up here in the centre of civilisation/culture/life huntly is ‘down south’….taupo is ‘way down south’…and you lot down there are ‘outlanders’..albeit green…:)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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phil u:
Yes, I have come across this “A-centric” view before (funny that!) and am very content to leave those who prefer to mob (and mill around) together to get on with it !
In Te Waka O Maui / South Isand we tend to leave that way of behaving to another species
eredwen
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and i hope you all gather regularly to give formal ritualised thanks to us all up here in ak…
for putting up with the trials and tribulations of city life…
all of which subsidises the bucolic lifestyles of the ‘outlanders’….eh…:)
where would you be without us….?..eh..?…up the creek without your wellies…i reckon..
and would christchurch really be enough…?
and if so …why do we get so many refugees fleeing from the outlands to the soothing civilisations of the city…..ak…
(any gifts of gratitude offered should, of course, be small and valuable….
c/o green party ak should get there..)
btw..what do you think of my idea of flogging the lower half of the sth island off as a job-lot..?..
and divvying up the earn amongst the rest of us…?
(a condition of the sale of course…would be continued access…we would just have to get a visa..eh..?)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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phil u. said:
November 26th, 2005 at 6:43 pm
Q: i hope you all gather regularly to give formal ritualised thanks to us all up here in ak… for putting up with the trials and tribulations of city life…
A: Frankly, I very seldom (if ever) give the A-team a thought.
Q:all of which subsidises the bucolic lifestyles of the ‘outlanders’… where would you be without us?…
A: Living in a cultured and alive city, excellent for cyclists, with its “state of the art” comprehensive and cheap public transport system. With Banks Peninsula and Southern Alps (heard of those?) within easy reach … Tough choice, but we manage!!
Q:why do we get so many refugees fleeing from the outlands to the soothing civilisations of the city…..ak…
A: YES! You have reminded me of ONE advantage of Auckland! It weeds out big-smoke-lovers … (though Sydney appeals to many.)
Q: (any gifts of gratitude offered should, of course, be small and valuable…
c/o green party ak should get there..)
A: What would you like?
Maybe I will deliver in person. I’ll be in the big A, (as briefly as possible of course!!) in mid-Dec.
Q: btw..what do you think of my idea of flogging the lower half of the sth island off as a job-lot..? and divvying up the earn amongst the rest of us…?
A: Easier for us to secede don’t you think? …and earn a big income from charging deperate Te Ika o Maui people to actually get into the Waka!
(THAT is appealing picture, but it doesn’t sound very “Green”!)
eredwen
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eredwen..u said..
“..Living in a cultured and alive city..”..
..um ..tell that to the subjects/victims of the racist taunts/violence so prevalent in that ‘cultured and alive’ city..it isn’t known as ‘the whte trash capital’ of new zealand for no reason..eh..?
(which we subsidise..:)
“..Banks Peninsula and Southern Alps (heard of those?) ..”
um..yes …i have done reasonably extensive tours of the sth island…(favourite place..despite the large pockets of environmental disaster..is the catlins….(as being a taste of how it all used to be..) and the further reaches of golden bay..
but as for most of the rest of it..it is just a glaring example of how we have seriously fucked over a very beautiful country in a very short space of time…eh..?
i find it problematic sth islanders being smug about the environment they live in….(though i guess if mile after mile of fenced off dairy farms pouring their crap/pollution into the 97% of our fucked up waterways or fields of crops drenched in poisonous chemicals is your idea of a beautiful environment..well..go figure i say……nature has definitely been strangled into submission in most of the sth island..(or wherever geographically possible…)
and as for banks peninsula…wtf happened to alll the trees/bush..?…it is so stark and bare…. (like a bloody moonscape..it is perhaps the most obvious example of that environmental devastation wreaked by us farming humans…eh..?)
then we come to the inhabitants of the outlands…
and their irrational fervid jafa hating…i thought they were all kidding at first..and was ‘yeah yeah good joke..”..but no ..they are deadly serious…
and why..we jafas ask…?..wtf have we done to get up your nose..?…c’mon now..most of you surely have cell-phones by now..and decent coffee has crossed the ditchette…so those old cliches won’t cut it anymore ..eh..?
so..eredwen..perhaps as an obviously proud sth islander…perhaps you could tell us just what the reasons are for this irrational/one-eyed..often racist..c.f…asian/pi jibes…hatred of us ak’ers by most of you outlanders..?
(and i would be interested in hearing your defences of the environmental rape and pillage visited on most of the sth island in just 150 years..remember that stat..?…97% of our waterways..fucked…!..)
please eredwen..defend the indefensible…:)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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No I don’t defend “the indefensible” and I agree with some of what you say (a lot of which applies to Aotearoa in general … perhaps with a few regional adaptions … I would have thought?)
The lack of bush on Banks Peninsula is a climatic difference … much lower rainfall and less humidity makes regeneration of the outer (especially NW facing) slopes more difficult, and not all of it was forested when Pakeha arrived. Some was originally bunt to flush moa(?) out of the bush, and had not regenerated on the exposed slopes. The seeds are in the soil in many areas but … The aluvial Plains were without grass before Pakeha brought their grasses with them … and glacier-ground fine-particled loess blew onto the volcanic cones of the peninsula and it takes a long time to turn it into fertile soil.
The big dairy craze, especially in naturally dry areas, is an indictment on our Regional Councils’ inability to adapt their thinking quickly enough … especially in allowing the overuse of precious aquifers, as the rest can be sorted out. Our waterways legislation also needs a rapid overhaul. (Many of the new dairy herd developers are self-imports from the North Island!!)
We have expert and dedicated botanists / environmentalists and their followers who are lobbying, reeducating and replanting. My hillside (inherited) property of ~0.25Ha, is pretty much fully reforested with (up to) 60 years growth of indigenous species/varieties which require no maintenance nor watering … (plus a few species from further north because of the microclimate… and the fact that my father was a refugee from Auckland (Swanson).
I don’t tend to be in the places to cross paths with the white dickhead racists (a fairly new phenomenon). You may have noted all their language and demenor is American (southern) TV learnt. (I note your use of that giveaway word white “trash”) … and their average IQ would be less than 80 I’d say … More of a comment on the breakdown of the family than an indicator of true racism. The Asians are the new kids on the block and tend to look and behave “well off” … more envy than racism I’d guess.
What was that dreadful slogan?
This is “New Zealand the way you want it.”
eredwen
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eredwen..”..and the fact that my father was a refugee from Auckland (Swanson)…”
ahem..that’s understandable…about the only thing son of swan has going for it is that it is sorta close to the west coast beaches..(if yr a bird..)..and a railway station..so you can get away….as your father did…:)
(i am trying to develop my curmudgeonly side..howdoyareckonitsgoin..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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phil u :
“about the only thing son of swan has going for it”
Swanson … a small farm, “the Waitakaris” and indigenous forest.
He had a great childhood there but came south in the late 1930′s, saw the mountains (and my mother) and stayed!
“i am trying to develop my curmudgeonly side..howdoyareckonitsgoin..?”
I reckon its bloody boring (so I’m ignoring)
eredwen
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oi back on topic!
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yes..and much love to you too eredwen…:)
over and out..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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zoe, are you brazilian? “oi” is a brazilian expression!
This photo is superb, maybe someone can use to really mesure the highness
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