Consequences of domestic violence

Last week of Chase Douglas, who has admitted assaulting his girlfriend three times including choking her, sought a discharge without conviction for the assaults; because he claims a criminal record will impede his ability to perform overseas.

Douglas’s lawyer said his client accepted his guilt and was remorseful for his actions and offered $500 in emotional harm as well as completing a Living Without Violence programme.

According to the Fairfax report he also wrote a letter to the court accepting that what he did was out of line and that “violence is not the way to solve things”.

His ex-girlfriend has reported she now finds it hard to sleep, and suffers regular nightmares. She is constantly afraid someone will break into her flat or that she will bump into Douglas again.

I find it hard to believe that he has honestly accepted the consequences of his actions if he is seeking a discharge without conviction. I find it hard to believe that he has honestly accepted the consequences of his actions if he is saying an impediment to his ability to perform overseas would be too harsh a consequence for causing physical and emotional harm to his partner.

The reporting has made it very clear that his ex-partner is suffering on-going significant consequences. It doesn’t seem balanced to me to suggest that his consequences be limited to attending a 13 week course and offering up $500.

Violence against women happens across all income brackets and status levels and we need to have a consistent message that it’s not ok. Sentences should not be decided on the basis of your status as a business leader, newsreader, opera singer or unemployed person.

8 Comments Posted

  1. This whole thing is corrupt and very one sided. The media can say ANYTHING to the public, and we fall for it. The media can grab one story and twist it entirely, only in support of the feminist society that we live in today.

    I am not excusing violent outbursts on women at all, but any women can grab one small accident (that could have happened out of self defense) and blow it out of proportion, out of pure spite.

    Any woman can get a male convicted by faking it, and it makes me feel sick to my stomach to see the media bring down another rising star. That seems to be all that New Zealand is good at these days. Someone makes one mistake that may not have even happened, and then all of the people that have envied, or are just plain and simple arrogant feminists, they suck the life out of them.

    Our society needs to realize that there are always two sides to every story.

    I hope those people voicing out their feminist rubbish read this, because you are putting our country down a very dark road. I stand for equality, not emasculating, evolutionary trash.

    I am not some angry grub by the way, I am just a young woman who hates injustice.

  2. Further to Andrew:

    – Peter Rossi’s metallic laws of (social programme) evaluation are here:

    – if parenting deficits are irremediable and reliably passed down, then the alternatives do seem to be segregation and genocide, both of which I find unattractive

    — in our current context, genocide would be explained as penalising irresponsible behaviour, as Charles Murray says

    – it would be interesting to compare the children of parents who are solo due to partner death vs relationship break-up; this might be possible via the Dunedin Study

    Separately, Jan, you probably don’t mean to say that only violence by men against women is wrong. Given some current social arguments, this could be read into your last paragraph. If you can manage to stop saying it by accident, then you may widen your audience.

  3. Not easy this one.

    We have this principle that once a person has served their time, they have paid their debt to society. However, immigration departments the world over don’t see it this way, and if you have a record, then you are viewed as undesirable and access to the country is denied.

    We have a square peg and a round hole, to which there is no satisfactory answer. The attempt by Douglas to be discharged is an understandable attempt to work within the system. In his case (and indeed in the case of anyone who wants or needs to travel internationally), any sentence is a life sentence, without possibility of parole.

  4. I would think another two zeros added to 500 maybe will stop him from doing it again…

    * Women need to learn not to put up with it then forgive when it happened for the first time…if you do, it will happen again, and again…

  5. I have a particular interest in this sort of thing, always wondering where it comes from this need to beat up women some men have, or is it just beat up anybody nearby?

    And (I know I’m not supposed to start a sentence with ‘and’ but too bad) I know you won’t like my comments as you obviously see women as the victims always, who can never be perpetrators of violence, but in fact they are, and are more frequently than men.

    Women beat up children, and they call it ‘discipline.’ Even today young mothers resort to physical abuse of the male and female children. However since males grow to be much stronger, overall, than their female counterparts, their violence on females is seen to be much worse than a 75kg woman beating up a 20kg child!

    So it’s referred to as a ‘cycle of violence’ and it starts with mothers beating up their children, in their own house, even to point of near death, and death. So don’t be too hard on this man who clearly has no notion of the harm he has done, he was probably taught by an expert, his mother!

    And my mother tried to murder me what I was 8, so I know that I’m talking about.

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