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Published in THE ISSUES by frog on Sat, June 30th, 2012
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General debate, June 30, 2012
Published: June 30, 2012
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Best Finlayson offers a settlement now. The longer it drags on, the worse it gets for the Government.
And for the Police – how many dodgy search warrants struck down by the Courts does it take to get your act together?
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National’s policies towards aiding the poor in this country seem a clear attempt to emulate this system…
“The system’s incoherence and contempt for its dependents fluoresce brilliantly in the wake of a historic event like the Great Recession. “
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-sharp-sudden-decline-of-americas-middle-class-20120622?page=3
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10816412
With a shrinking tax base in NZL is it time for ALL businesses to be taxed fairly?
Eespecially if those business take their untaxed profits and invest overseas as is the case with Sanitarium Foods?
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May The Force be with you!
:^}
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I think religious organisations running businesses should pay tax. Of course I guess Sanitarium will simply up its prices, but on principle it seems unfair to treat religious organisations any differently than any other organisation.
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We now have heaps of proof that “green” and sustainable businesses should be the way of the future. The government’s blind support of a fossil fueled future is only driving us down a motorway of national insignificance and a dead end!
http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/two-business-stories-about-sustainable.html
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sprout,
Be interesting to know how much tax Tuaropaki Trust pays. 19.5% is the rate for Maori trusts.
Is it fair that Maori trust owned business only pay 19.5% tax against every other business entity 30% corporate tax?
Worse, why should Maori trusts pay 19.5% tax on earnings when religios organisation businesses pay none?.
Will the Greens plug these loopholes?
Better start thinking about it as the NZL dollar high exchange rate is killing all other corporate business.
Cant increase “rich pricks” taxes if these are none to tax.
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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/07/02/trans-pacific-partnership-corporate-escape-from-accountability/
…anything AT ALL to further the wealth inequality and power of the one-percenters who own them.
Most National voters are so pwned that they don’t even realize they’re being raped every day by this government (after all, one percent is NOT 45 or whatever percent of Kiwi fools who actually voted for a “smiling assassin” to take care of them).
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You only get as good a government as the opposition allows.
So far the Greens, Labour, NZFirst have proved totally ineffectual and uncoordinated.
Time to step up to the plate opposition parties.
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Greens should oppose Labour’s proposal to increase Kiwi Saver contributions via the employee contribution (imagine someone on the minimum wage paying 9% by compulsion). There are employees who have not had a wage increase for years – Labour’s employee contribution focus means they would get less in the hand as their Kiwi Saver contriubution went up. An employer contribution means they could not. Oz unions realise that and stopped their own party being so stupid. If ours accept this they really are part of the problem for local workers.
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Bsprout – “We now have heaps of proof that “green” and sustainable businesses should be the way of the future”
That’s good. When you have started one, can you report back and tell us how you went? Nb Good to hear no subsidies are required though.
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Over three years down the track and National Standards are even being described as “ropey” by the Prime Minister. Rather than spending more tens of millions in trying to make them work, why don’t we chuck them altogether and get back to teaching and learning!
http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/key-admits-standards-are-ropey.html
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I don’t support minimum pricing.
First it simply means higher profits for retailers and producers (raises no money for government) and second because it is targeted at the young and the poor rather than an across the board tax increase – to fund treatment of addicts (our resources here have been limited for too long, whether for beneficiaries or prisoners). Discrimination against important support groups for Greens and Labour is also politically stupid.
There has been too much license to those who simply want to control the promotion, distribution and affordability of alcohol in this debate to date. And too much of an implied agenda to use price to control the poor who drink as if there is a link between class and behaving properly when drinking – this is akin to bigoted stereotyping of those on benefits.
So it is dispappointing to Greens jumping on the minimum price bandwagon – that should be left to more class based society’s than ours.
We need to place more focus on responsibility – self control and self discipline by those who drink – and introduce a blood alcohol level defining drunkeneness for the right to be on licensed premises or in a public place where alcohol restrictions apply – targeting drinking to get drunk to change cultural behaviour.
PS When the age was lowered back in 1999, I said that it needed to be balanced by the investment in alcohol free venues for those under 18, so they could learn to socialise in such an environment. Thus they could enter the adult culture of bars and such at 18, capable of ignoring the example of the drunks of the former generations. This is still required. But people would rather change legislation back and forward than do this.
Teens binge drinking preceded the access to bars in 1999. Everyone I knew was doing this (and also drinking in bars under 20 as well) before the law change, but the drinking was heavier (cheaper) at private household venues. Much like the pre loading of today. The only real change today is that the binge drinking is more visible in areas around urban bars since 1999 and the ready made alcopops – drinking these to get drunk is an experimental discovery of the enough, but not too much too quickly … . Defining a blood alcohol level – and information to those drinking in this way – how many they can have and still get into a bar/club would be helpful to them.
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Matiu Rei is off the planet
Matiu Rei’s statement does nothing to promote Maori interests and he should feel highly ashamed for further threatening endangered species, which continue to be vulnerable from overfishing, collisions with ships, entanglement in fishing gear, noise pollution and idiots who think they have a right to hunt unique species to extinction… That’s not a tradition any human being should foster…
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Best mangled language mixed metaphor ever courtesy of those wonderful propeller-heads at CERN who may have found conclusive proof the Higgs Boson.
Enjoy!
“If I were a betting man, I would bet that it is the Higgs. But we can’t say that definitely yet. It is very much a smoking duck that walks and quacks like the Higgs. But we now have to open it up and look inside before we can say that it is indeed the Higgs.”
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At over $70/bbl we are going to have enough oil “to deep fry us all” and we have that condition.
http://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fuels/peak-oil-really-thing-past.html
http://scienceblogs.com/casaubonsbook/2012/07/03/treehugger-monbiot-and-is-peak-oil-over/
So “Peak Oil” isn’t the problem some of us might have hoped and even if it is
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9292
– we haven’t got a carbon price so the alternative energy source most turned to is Coal…
Which is even less good.
Fundamentally? Until we get to the point and do the thing correctly, as in actually putting a price on emitted Carbon Dioxide, we are stuffed.
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Jackal – are you criticizing Matiu’s culture, traditions and customs?
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OneTrack
No! What makes you think that? There is nothing traditional about Maori hunting whales.
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Seriously, what does it take to get the LIBOR thing taken seriously?
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/taibbi-spitzer-and-kelleher-on-libor.html
…. a media that isn’t wholly pwned would be a good start. A PM who wasn’t, in all probability, part of the problem… that would help… but where is the outrage about this?
I am astonished that we are not moving to divorce ourselves from the corruptions of the monetary system we have embraced for these long years. What is the syndrome for abused and battered women? It seems to have a monetary-parallel of some sort. Can’t even protest against the abuse, we need those bankers and can’t imagine life without them.
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