by frog
I want to wish everyone who has read posts or contributed by way of comments on frogblog over the past twelve months a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Christmas is a Christian festival, but as Russel Norman pointed out earlier this week, much of the spirit of Christmas applies equally to those who have a non-Christian religion or no religion at all.
Over the summer holidays blogging here will be light. The Green MPs are all taking a well-deserved break, and I hope to too. There will be a couple of General Debate threads (please treat this as one), and if something important crops up or if a Green MP suddenly finds a spurt of enthusiasm, maybe a post or two by an MP.
The blog won’t be moderated as frequently as usual either, but I will be checking in from time to time. Commenters who are not registered or fail to log in may have long delays before your comments appear.
And please don’t take the less frequent moderation as an excuse for trolling, abusing other commenters, or other bad behaviour. Follow the blog policy and all will be good. Otherwise, you may burn in Hell for eternity discover there are consequences. Compliments of the season, and wishing you all the best.
Published in THE ISSUES by frog on Sat, December 24th, 2011
Tags: blog policy, Christmas, general debate
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
A stocking full of Southland lignite for Don Elder, Solid Energy, and their backers in the Nats.
Everyone else, have a good one, and hope Santa delivers you nice presents.
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Frog, all you have to do is worship the ‘green’ Jesus who was sent to save us from capitalist greed, corrupt power, and environmental destruction.
(It is actually the stock standard Jesus but, oh well
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Merry Christmas everyone, it’s a cracker day on the Coast (pun intended) I hope it is where ever you are too.
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Thanks frog. Merry xmas to you as well. Lets hope that the further hardships people face because of National’s backwards policies doesn’t lead to more family violence.
Xmas wish: Put children first today
I don’t think Jesus would approve of the gross commercialism and ensuing violence that is now attributed to his birthday.
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Todays bad Christmas present: the death of Stratos TV.
Merry Christmas all.
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it’s !.45 pm..rellos getting you down yet..?
..need some material to spark up the room..?..now or later..?
here ya go..!
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/14-funny-christmas-quotes-by-comedians-photos/
..don’t say i never do anything for you…
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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(mmm!!!..brainfood..!..)
“…Questions by Alice Walker, John Berger, Ken Loach, Paul Laverty, Amira Hass and Chris Hedges…”
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/6-questions-for-noam-chomsky-%C2%A0-video/
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10775110
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spc…you seem to be attempting to defend the status quo…
..whereas ..if you think about it…
..actually you are strengthening the case for a party-vote-only campaign..
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enjoying the first day of the annual (especially-crap) no-news from yr usual mainstream media..?
lucky there is http://whoar.co.nz/ ..eh..?
..there every day..fresh and shiny for ya…eh..?
i have to dig-deeper/range-wider..
..but i still find them..
..those good/interesting stories…
..this one from this mornings’ crop/harvest is quite cheering…
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/apple-hydrogen-fuel-cell-battery-plans-revealed/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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oh..!..and i almost forgot..
..to any humbug out there/lurking around..
..a resounding bah!…
..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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rich/first-world white guy (farrar..)..
..travelling in third world country..
..snarls and snaps at third world street-sellers..
..describing them as ‘hyenas’…
“..They’ll do anything to engage you in conversation so you feel obliged to give them some money, most commonly asking you where you come from. After around the 20th one had asked me this I snapped and said “The North Pole”. They all looked surprised as no one had ever said that before obviously.
Then one of them asked if I really was from the North Pole, and I replied “No, but you all obviously think I am as you think I’m Father Fucking Christmas”.
As it was Xmas Day, possibly a bit ungracious from me, but seriously these kids are hyenas in human form…”
(..sez it all really…eh..?
..and all in his own words too…
..how dare they be there..and on xmas day too…
..also interesting how he accuses them of being 1%ers..
..those street-seller..
..i think he had an irony/empathy bye-pass at birth..
..that farrar..)
..and how they must have laughed at farrar..eh..?
..those street-sellers..as an/this example of first world male…
..snarled at them..)
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xma presents for politicians:..(an ongoing series…)
peter dunne…a pair of flip-flops..given to him by those voters in ohariu-belmont who believed his election-campaign promises to do all he could to stop state asset-sales…
..national/key also get flip-flops..
..theirs’ are academic-themed…
..and awarded for their three years..(and longer)..predicting the downfall of civilisation unless national standards were enforced…
..and then post-election plumping for no-standards/charter-schools…
..the green party co-leaders:
..a brace of slave-animal-brutalising-vids from safe..
..and some vegan cookbooks..
(or here.. http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+recipies )
..the maori party co-leaders..
..the board-game called ‘sell-out’…
john key..
..a legal-pot prescription issued from where he has his holiday-compound..
..where you can get legal-pot..
..and civilisation/culture/society does not yet appear to have broken down…
..(the mainstream-media are yet to question him/key on this screaming irony…
..but they wouldn’t anyway..would they..?
..are they scared of his muldoon-death-stare..)
..oh..!..and a bong to go along with the script..
..i understand ayn-rand-bongs are now available..
..(they blow the bong-smoke up yr arse..eh..?..
..and are an ironic-metaphor on her writings/teachings..
(that key is such a fanboy of..
..once you understand that key follows the class/greed-driven teachings/prescriptions of rand..
..you understand his politics of war on the poor..and the transfer of wealth to the upper/’deserving’-class..
..yes..he really is that shallow/unread..)
hone harawira:..
..bear gryls autobiography..
..so he can learn/for hints on how to get along with just himself..and a camera crew..
phil goff:..an abacus…
for two reasons..
one..so he can work out that had he not ruled out harawira…
..that there is a very good chance that he would now be prime minister…
..and two:..so that he can work out that the underclass/poverty created by both national and governments he was an enthusiastic participant in..
..that this poverty of the poorest could not be ended/repaired by no tax on first five thousand…to be brought in over three years..
(do the math phil..!..where is the fucken money..?..)
..and would/could not be ended by ending that discriminatory withholding of tax credits for the poorest families..(that he enthusuasticaly introduced..so recently..)
..especially when he promised to end that particular inequity..
..by..wait for it…!..2018…!
..(and he/labour wonder why their core-support didn’t-listen/hear..?)
..david shearer:..a brace of new advisers…
..(‘cos if he sticks with the same old labour crew..proffering the same rightwing-lite..that say ..pagani does…
..he also won’t be heard … in 2014..
and finally..john banks:..
..(what do you get the man who has everything..?..)
..a plastic watering can…
..a plastic watering can full of water for him to carry at all times..
..’cos there are so many people out there..
..who wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire…
..so..if he should self-immolate..?
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Flom @SPC’s linked article:
Disappointing presumption on the part of the article’s author that Labour somehow deserves support of Green Party voters by default. I think it’s misleading to always presume that politics is a one dimensional spectrum between left and right where two parties can’t possibly overlap without going through those in “the middle”.
Under MMP, thinking about it as some kind of Venn diagram would probably be much closer to reality, but sadly trying to force it into a legacy FPP metaphor is all we get through the media at present, not to mention any number of other sources that encourage it, including parties themselves (and it’s completely in the interests of big parties to keep telling people there are only two possible directions).
Tough habit to break, I guess.
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mike m..why on earth would green voters want to vote for a govt planning to sell off our common/state-held energy-assets..?
there are differences between labour and national..
..one is the lesser of two evils..
..and one is the worse of two evils..
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Did I say they would?
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you seem to be arguing against the greens and labour being components in a centre-left bloc…
..and therefor helping..not hindering..each other..
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btw..i’m not sure if you all caught it..
..but peters gave a teaser of how he is going to attack the green party over the next three years..
..he snarled that given the next three years are going to be a battle against asset-sales..we need to know which side the greens are actually on…
..and that the cuddling up to national with a ‘memorandum of understanding’ hardly defines the green party as being part of that strong opposition..
..you may argue against his case..
..but that is the one he will be making..
..and it does have some potency/resonance..
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But you’ve automatically presumed that I’m referring to the Green Party and the National Party, when as far as I’m concerned I’ve said no such thing. All I’ve done is criticised what I think is a handicapping presumption on the part of a large number of commentators that politics is all about a one dimensional spectrum, when it isn’t, our at least doesn’t need to be.
Long term I think both National and Labour’s days as major dominant parties are numbered under MMP. But as long as so many people in influential positions, including those in the parties themselves, keep encouraging a perception that it’s all about two big dinosaurs pushing at each other in the middle, dominating small supporters pushed into either end (and if they don’t it becomes the fault of the evil small party for blackmailing the bigger one), that reality will simply continue because voters will continue to vote for those two parties presented as the safest in-the-middle options instead of for what they actually want.
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mike m..
..can’t you see that the centre-right has coalesced around one party..
..and the centre-left bloc is a grouping of different parties..?
..and could you explain what you mean by a ‘one dimensional spectrum’..?
..and if not referring to ‘the green party and the national party’..
..who are you referring to..?
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If voters cast their party votes for the Green Party, then they don”t want National’s policies. If they also cast their vote for a National candidate rather than a Labour candidate or a Green Party candidate (was there one?) then that suggests to me that they preferred Paula Bennett over Carmel Sepuloni. The question then becomes were they voting Paula in, or voting Carmel out and choosing Paula as the electoral candidate most likely to be able to keep Carmel out?
Since all three parties were very likely to exceed the 5% threshold, the successful electoral candidate wasn’t going to affect the make-up of parliament but it would affect which National candidate and which Labour candidates would be entering parliament.
Trevor.
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don’t despair..!..there is news out there..!
..29 stories this morning..so far…
http://whoar.co.nz/
this one is kinda interesting…
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/how-ibm-saw-2012-in-2007-wheres-my-mind-reading-cellphone/
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“..or a Green Party candidate (was there one?)..”
yes..actually part of the nub of the discussion..trevor..
..is the fact that so many green party voters just pissed their electorate votes up against the wall..
(..as there was no chance that candidate would win the seat..)
..and i don’t really care if those voters voted for or against bennett or sepuloni…
..it is the unthinking mindlessness of that ‘dumb-vote’ that does my head in…
..especially..when..if asked..most of those brain-disengaged-on-the-day green voters would have a preference for either sepuloni or bennet…
..and especially in a seat where the electorate race was so close…
..can’t those disengaged ones see past the end of their own noses..?
..and why the hell isn’t the green party leadership advocating/teaching intelligent voting…?
..that they have the biggest numbers of brain-disengaged voters in their electorates..
..bears mute testimony to their failings there…
..and had the green party leadership prescribed intelligent-voting..
..we would now be looking at a very different parliament…
..if i/blind-freddy can see that..
..why can’t they see that..?
..and more importantly..
..why won’t they/when will they..
..do something about it..?
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It may be that they disliked both major party options, and perhaps the Green Party has better things to do with its publicity than focus on insulting the intelligence of a section of its support base who don’t want to continue to entrench a two-party-and-friends system and would rather send a message about what they actually want.
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well..that’s mike m. who’s up for a continuation of the dumb-voting…
..the serial-losing…
..anyone else want to go and stand in the brain-dead-corner..?
..over there with mike m…?
..he prefers ‘messages’ to political-victory..
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Another possibility that has just occurred to me is perhaps those Green Party voters were deliberately not voting for the Green Party electoral candidate because they would rather see list Green Party candidates in parliament rather than that particular electoral Green Party candidate for that electorate. However I doubt that this is the case, and I don’t know who the unsuccessful electoral candidtae was.
I’ll ignore Phil’s rant as he hasn’t given any reasoning about what tactical voting could achieve in that electorate.
Trevor.
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Rena – a disaster waiting to happen
This works like a perpetual warrant of fitness, whereby ships that are unfit to sail are allowed to continue indefinitely even when serious safety problems have been found…
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Hadn’t the Rena already visited one New Zealand port before sailing to Tauranga? If it had, then it could have been stopped from sailing if it was found to be unfit.
Although flag of convenience shipping makes it more likely that substandard ships will be operating in New Zealand, they can only operate here if we let them, so the answer may be more stringent inspections rather than stopping flag of convenience shipping as such.
Trevor.
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The MV Rena visited Dunedin, Wellington and then Napier prior to travelling to Tauranga… I don’t think it was inspected in any of these ports.
More stringent inspections aren’t going to work. The safety issues were found, however the Rena was allowed to sail anyway. Therefore the system whereby ships can become exempt from being impounded at the ship owners request must change.
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f.y.i..jackal..
“..In July 2011, she was detained in the port of Fremantle in Western Australia after a Port State Control (PSC) inspection revealed 17 deficiencies, including several related to the safety of navigation.
An inspection in the NZ port of Bluff a few days before the recent accident revealed 19 deficiencies…”
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Trevor.
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most days on whoar i post a couple of musical-treats..
..one from parts foreign..and one local..
here is todays’ local…
brilliant 70′s nz punk…
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/todays-musical-treat-localnz-suburban-reptiles-saturday-night-stay-at-home/
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@phil, Please give me some room to yawn.
@Trevor29, Maybe there were a few people trying to be fancy but personally I think it most likely that people just voted for whom they wanted to represent them. As you mentioned, it wasn’t a tactical electorate. There could be any number of reasons why people liked Paula Bennett’s direct contribution to their electorate whilst still preferring Green policies, and that’s those people’s own business unless they wish to share it. Yay for MMP. I could be wrong.
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so..mike m..that’s yr arguing/intellectual-skills pretty much tapped out..?
yawn away..!
..eh..?
..as are we all..
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http://whoar.co.nz/2011/the-end-of-battery-farms-in-britain/
meanwhile…here in new zealand the green party has spent umpteen years (ineffectually) campaigning for slightly larger cages..
..how could that not be a jaw-dropping benchmark in that ‘inneffectual’ity..?
is/has that been part of yr longterm practice of not annoying the farming lobby..
..on animal welfare issues..?
..what else explains yr long-silences..?
..and that scaring-nobody/seeming-to-be-seen-to-be-doing-something slightly-larger-cages campaign..?
..could we describe that as a strawman-cause..?
..and meanwhile..
..the animals continue to weep..
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“..As you mentioned, it wasn’t a tactical electorate…”
um..!..mike m…by any definition it was a ‘tactical electorate’..?
..that you can get something so factually basic wrong..
..couldn’t be clearer confirmation that yr half-arsed attempts at ‘analysis’..
indeed show that..in yr own words..
“…I could be wrong…”
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but most of you eat them..eh..?
..those eggs..and those (intelligent/sensitive/pain-feeling/personality-unique) chooks..eh..?
..from those animal concentration camps..eh..?
..where they have spent their short/brutalised lives crammed into cages
..do you ever ask yrslves..’just how ‘green’ is my diet..?’
..’am i just hypocrisy-in-motion..?’..
..or do those screams from those suffering animals just fall on deaf..(oops!..sorry..!..hearing-impaired) ears..?
..’scrambled..?..or sunny-side-up..?..’
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That’s what lets a candidate win without necessarily having majority support (as in when votes get split between similar opposition), and it’s the reason why the GP tells people not to vote for its candidates.
If there were a preference-ranking system like PV (for simplicity if there’s only one candidate being selected per electorate) or STV, it’d make it harder for this to happen and it’d become harder but not impossible for parties to rig electorates if a threshold’s kept in place (even though I hope it isn’t). I guess there’s a down-side in adding more complexity to voting, but it’s still just a matter of asking people to write as many numbers as they care about instead of tick.
The electorate candidate voting method isn’t on the list of things being considered, so probably there would need to be publicity and submissions for it to occur.
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http://whoar.co.nz/2011/warriors-of-goja-the-craziest-thing-youll-see-this-week/
“…I’ve been on the web for 17 years now, I’m a professional link finder -
- and I have never in my life seen anything like these guys performing on an Indian talent show.
They *start off* by biting into fluorescent light bulbs -
- and it just gets more nuts from there…”
seriously ‘out there’..folks…
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isn’t language wonderful..?..so sanitising/masking-the-realities..
..instead of ‘chook foetus uncooked on top’…
..we get ‘sunny side up’..
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The official Waitakere stats for split votes are here. (Overall summaries and other electorates can also be found higher up.)
Another note is that Green Party supporters in Waitakere seem to have been nearly the most likely to choose an electorate candidate. 2.38% either cast an informal candidate vote or no candidate vote. That was only bettered by UF supporters, although there were only 125 party votes for UF so it may be less significant.
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Mike M, there is the possibility of bringing in preferential voting in electoraqtes by proposing MMP reform to include party vote preferences (so where a party gets less than the threshold its votes transfer to other parties).
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@SPC, that’s what I was hoping for. I’m not too sure how likely it is that it’d be considered without much publicity and many submissions, given that it’s not on the pre-existing list of considerations for the Electoral Commission, except for the final item which refers to consideration of “other matters referred to the Commission by the Minister of Justice, Parliament, or raised by members of the public”.
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our media is so laughing at the worshipping by the nth korean people of a leader who basically fucked his country over..
..expressing wonderment at how could they be so stupid/blind…
..whereas here we/they worship a bankster who plans to flog our state assets off to the 1% class that he belongs to/is waging class-warfare on behalf of..
..but hey.!..however ‘stupid’ those nth korean people/media are…
..they didn’t vote to elect this person who fucked their country over…
..whereas here…?
..and no..i don’t think the nth korean leader planned at any time to flog off his countries’ energy-resources..
..what stupid stupid fucken people/media ..eh..?
..in that new zealand..
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Anonymous survival guide
Anonymous has released a Survival Guide for Citizens in a Revolution (PDF), which is well worth a read. Although focused on what to do in the event of a violent uprising, the document is relevant for any disaster like emergency situation.
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Radioactive muttonbirds
Despite the possible contamination, there’s been no official warning about eating sooty terns (Onychoprion fuscata) that could have been exposed to Strontium-90 after the Fukushima nuclear accident.
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Adams believes that the Muttonbirds offspring will not be affected… he’s wrong! Sensitivity to radiation is elevated from conception through embryonic development… that means if the Muttonbirds are exposed, they will pass that exposure onto their offspring through maternal bone stores.
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http://whoar.co.nz/2011/theres-a-25-chance-your-ground-meat-has-a-potentially-fatal-bacteria/
“…Mark Bittman has yet another fascinating column in the New York Times – this time on the prevalence of bacteria in meat.
He discusses a study that analyzed 80 brands of beef, pork chicken and turkey from five cities.
The study found that 47% of the meat contained the bacteria staphylococcus aureus -
- and that 52% were resistant to at least three classes of antibiotics.
One particular line struck us:
‘So when you go to the supermarket to buy one of these brands of pre-ground meat products, there’s a roughly 25 percent chance you’ll consume a potentially fatal bacteria that doesn’t respond to commonly prescribed drugs.’
Yup, you read that right folks — based on this study -
- there is about a one-in-four chance that your ground meat contains a potentially fatal bacteria.
Now why is that the case?…”
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phil u
In terms of the prevalence of bacteria, there are three main factors: Poor handling/processing, more bacteria being in animals due to overuse of antibiotics and incorrect storage.
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It’s bad enough that a dog (allegedly) died in the Manawatu. If it’d been a young child you’d have to wonder what sort of extra attention would be given to the pollution issues.
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I’ve only been able to keep up with occasional coverage of this, but is it reasonable to detect some hypocrisy with $50,000 being donated by New Zealanders to a tourist family whose child was sexually abused when a stranger broke in?
I definitely don’t want to lessen the seriousness or impact for the family, but I’m sure this kind of thing goes on below the radar all the time, despicable as it is. It’s as if people are being generous because they feel worse about New Zealanders treating outsiders in such a way than they do about New Zealanders treating locals in the same way.
Maybe it’s proportional to the amount of publicity. If it’d been a break-in for a local family living in Turangi, I have trouble believing there’d be anything like the same generosity-filled outpouring, and there might even be blunt arm-chair criticism of the parents.
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Thanks MikeM, have just alerted my sister, whom I spent Xmas day with in Foxton, accompanied by her German Shepherd and our darling canine daughter at Foxton Beach. Scary shit!
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Cameron Slater douchebag
The ever-repugnant Cameron Slater has been running his meaningless Whaleoil Awards in which he nominates The Jackal for worst blog of the year…
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Perhaps you offended him one too many times with your Asshole of the Week Awards.
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john-ston
Slater’s only received one Asshole Award for saying Arie Smith-Voorkamp should be “gut-shot and left to die”. Even if I have offended him, that doesn’t give him the right to incorrectly lampoon somebody who is not associated with The Jackal blogsite in any way.
What kind of sicko picks a guy at random to abuse without any justification?
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Thanks from for wishing all your readers about the Christmas. I would like to wish you the same and upcoming a very happy new year as well. This kind of discussion really gives us an inspiration to like in such a manner.
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(how is that campaign to get slightly larger cages in chook concentration camps coming along..?
..we haven’t heard anything for ages..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/last-battery-hen-given-a-new-home/
“…Liberty rehomed by charity before ban abolishing battery cage system comes into effect on 1 January..”
here is a suggestion for the new spokesperson on animal welfare..who is it..?..do they eat them…?
..why don’t you drop an email back on the mother-country..
..and ask them how they did it..?
..’cos really..some 15 yrs have been wasted on that ineffectual-campaign to get larger cages..eh..?
..how about growing some cojones…
..and standing up for the animals..
..and calling/fighting for the abolition of these animal concentration camps..
..oh..!..the pigs need a bit of a hand too..eh..?
..the green party claytons animal welfare policies..
..animal welfare policies you have when you don’t really have animal welfare policies/don’t really care/give a fuck..
..eh..?
..this is how it has been untill now..
..plan to just continue as before…?
..do you..?
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f.y.i…
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/the-12-most-read-2011-articles-in-environment/
“…The environment section covers issues which raise debate such as those concerning climate change, green living and nature.
Here we take a look at the most popular articles of the year – followed by an insight from our environment editor as he chooses his favourite story…”
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(would you like some beaver anal gland to ‘enhance’ that vanilla/raspberry flavour..?..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2011/5-outrageous-food-stories-of-2011/
“…5. Beaver Anal Glands (A rude awakening from a former food exec.)
This year, we found out about something so horrific and so wrong that it seems to defy logic.
We found out the hard way what it means to the food industry when they include “natural flavors” in the ingredients list.
Thanks to the blog of former food executive Bruce Bradley, it’s clear that some natural flavorings are best left alone.
Some processed food companies, somehow (I don’t want to know exactly how), extract bodily fluids from the back door of those loveable, semi-aquatic mammals known as beavers.
That’s right, we learned that beaver anal glands are a somewhat common substance found in processed food -
- used to replicate or enhance the flavor of raspberry or vanilla.
Yuck.
Just plain… yuck.
Advice for 2012?
Use raspberries for raspberry flavor and leave the beaver butts alone!..”
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Stratos Television closure
I purchased my freeview decoder specifically to watch Stratos Television and not infomercials. I have also grown to like TVNZ 7. One month after my purchase, closures were announced because of a lack of government funding…
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Re the Turangi child rapist/mutilator. Given this 16yo (monster) is to appear in the youth court and I’m thus assuming he will not be held accountable as an adult for these (alleged) crimes. Should the parents/guardians of youth court cases then also be required to answer to the court for the actions of those in their care (or NOT in their care)? What form could such a system of accountability take??
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flog them in the town square..?
..hair-shirts..?
..signs to be worn around the kneck..?
..a facial tattoo/mark..?
..what did you have in mind..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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As parents are not allowed any form of control or influence over 16 year olds, why should they be held responsible.
I am still seething about the social worker/cop/teacher who told my 16 year old he could now leave school anytime he chose.
I hope they got the right one?
It seems to be standard practice to decide who is guilty then make up the evidence. Withholding any which is favourable to the defendant.
It also seems to be standard practice in courts to advise kids to plead guilty, even if they are not! because of the dire consequences and costs of defense.
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@samiam 1:03 PM
I suspect that, given the seriousness of the charges, this case will be escalated to the District Court (although for the purposes of committal proceedings only the Youth Court may have jurisdiction and may be presided over by a Youth Court Judge, but exercising all the powers of a District Court Judge).
s 274 Children, Young Persons, and Their Families Act 1989
I doubt the age of the defendant here is going to result in any leniency being extended to him.
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Jackal
Whereas I agree with your overall sentiment, and indeed even noted such in an earlier thread (entitled RIP Stratos), to say that they closed “because of a lack of government funding” is a stretch of the truth; Stratos hoped they would get government funding, but it never materialised, and frankly, it was unlikely that it ever would. Stratos closed because they didn’t have a plan to make money.
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Jackal – Again
It’s not surprising you’re getting lambasted
That is a simple ad hominem attack. You’re attacking the man, not the ball.
To most people, this is a sign you’ve lost the argument at outset, and says more about you than the target of your vitriol.
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