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Published in Environment & Resource Management by frog on Mon, May 17th, 2010
General Debate, 17th May 2010
Published: May 17, 2010
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So what is in the Marshall Islands..? anyone.. please..
Guys sitting in on last week’s US Senate Inquiry into the BP Deepwater disaster in Gulf o’ Mexico.. and a report came out that the oilco or driller had been operating per the Marshall Islands code (standards) so as NOT to comply with US code..
Could this be bad standards stuff based around atom bomb testing..?
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My friends and I are waiting in the wings..
waiting …
http://planetark.org/enviro-news/item/58016
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Tomfarmer,
I’m not quite sure about what you read or heard. After WW2 the Marchall Islands were a US territory; they became independent in the period 1986-1990. The US is still responsible for the island’s defence and provides a fair bit of economic and technical aid. It could be that there are some legal loop holes that allow the laws of the Marshall Islands to apply in the US???? Thats just pure speculation though.
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Keith Locke, good to see you at the Launch of the Women’s Suffrage Petition reminding the Auckland Council that they had organized a space in Lower Khartoum Place for a Suffrage Memorial commemmorating the 100 years since NZ women gained the vote.
Now, thanks to Dame Jenny Gibbs and her cohorts on the Gallery Arts Panel, there are moves to try to move the Memorial. There has been a stay by Council on this ‘move’ but Council refuses to state categorically that this space, designed specially for the Suffrage Memorial in Lower Khartoum Place, remains in perpetuity for that purpose. I don’t trust this Council and certainly not any Council that Rodney Hide would support with John Banks in it, so let’s hope Len Brown succeeds as Mayor and then we need to impress upon him to sign on the dotted line that this space, in Lower Khartoum Place belongs, as it did in 1993 and now in 2010 to the memory of women who fought for the vote for women and signed a petition to present to Parliament.
Anyone who believes in equality for women and men, needs to sign this petition.
This needs to be a Local Government election issue, for the sake of our daughters and our sons.
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National at risk of being tipped into death spiral
By CHRIS TROTTER – The Dominion Post
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/3696449/National-at-risk-of-being-tipped-into-death-spiral
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Can anybody tell me anything about how Quotable Value establishes legitimate value for rates revaluations and whether this can be corrupted by political interference at either local or national level?
I have discovered some appalling attitudes from some of their staff regarding lower socio-economic areas and I am interested in where the scent leads (bullsh!t has a particular tang to it).
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I think it has to do with the price that other properties nearby sold for?
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Yes I think so Rimu, but I can see evidence of QV in effect artificially holding values higher than the market is really indicating.
I was wondering if there is perhaps some political “will” to do this.
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The ratings agencies wouldn’t be completely useless, would they? Noo, surely not?!
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Just had a big phone argument with QV, seems that they don’t even understand why they do these rating revaluations!
Their primary approach seems to be “exploit the ignorance of the individual concerned”.
They don’t like it when you call their bluff either, how dare you question the housing market!!
Bad capitalist cog!!!
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Move over, Greens?
http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/
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BOOYA I HAS A WEE PICTCHA!!11`
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Some good news on the oil front, finally: BP siphoning off 40 pct of Gulf of Mexico oil leak.
They’re sucking up ~2000 bpd, so that “40%” is reliant on the conjecture that there are only 5000 bpd being leaked.
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I see Germany looking to ban ‘naked short selling’.
Now I totally think the futures market should be eliminated.
But please, keep the naked bit! Actually, make it comulsory.
What would the new Miss USA, Rima Fakih, have to say about it? Just how do you pronounce that again?
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Rhymes with ‘Rimutaka’.
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In the time-honoured tradition of beauty competition contestants, Miss USA expressed her love for all of humanity, especially the Poles.
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I’ll sell my ‘naked shorts’ – cash only please! Booya!
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Dear seller, I am intrigued by the photo that accompanies your ‘naked shorts’ auction. Could you clarify for me, are you the wearer? I only ask because I’ve been searching for my run-away husband for nigh on 50 years and that mole of yours looks very familiar!
Daphne Gormenschlopper
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Americans are silly.
Something as shallow as a beauty page…pagint…contest! and they are all shocked because the young lady may not be as pure as the wind driven snow.
NO DANCING AROUND POLES!!! ITS THE DEVIL-AHH!!
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@samiam 7:40 AM
I was at the Cricket Test between Australia and Pakistan in Brisbane in 1981.
Can you imagine the chant from the Brisbane crowd when Pakistani batsman Ijaz Faqih came into bat: “Faq, Faq, Faqih”!
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More evidence that cats are demonic.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG8ieVpDgfg&playnext_from=TL&videos=xlGN68iASrg
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Shunda,
Welcome to the animal world. Though, if you want to see real demons (or daemons), you will have to go back to the tree shrew and start up the path that leads to us.
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Ah! The Blaming of the Shrew!
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Repugnant.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3712160/Shunning-of-due-process-repugnant-says-law-academic
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I guess Sapient, at least when cats fight the whole world doesn’t suffer.
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or does it……………
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Greenfly,
The human race is shrewed!!
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Another shrewed observation from you Shunda!
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I just shrew it out there to see what others thought.
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Tree Shrew != Shrew.
Not so shrewd are you?
Just for fun, we will say Eomaia. You may find that word a little more shrewish.
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Have a look at this video of the oil leaking out
http://billnelson.senate.gov/audiofiles/craterplumeRITT.wmv
You can see the pipe that BP is using to siphon off a tiny amount of the oil. Compare that footage to footage of it before the siphon was installed: http://billnelson.senate.gov/audiofiles/craterplume2.wmv and http://billnelson.senate.gov/audiofiles/craterplume1.wmv
It looks a bit better now, but that stuff is still spewing out like crazy.
I wonder if the flow rate at the other leak has increased now that there is some back pressure at this one?
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and I thought supply was tight Toad
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Just for fun, we will say Eomaia. You may find that word a little more shrewish.
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I am not shrewish Sapient, though I have heard about the king of the shrews
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Shunda,
You may not be shrewish, but that word/designation is certainly “not easily manipulated”.
I may have a trail of shrews behind me, but I would not go so far as to call myself King, certainly not an exalted one; more a target of assassination.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10645938
From where S59 originated for the protectionof our children and from my investiagtions not a mention by the Greens on this.
Evidence of references to child- abuse investigation as not being “real policing” and to child-abuse investigators as “poor cousins”. No wonder we have an issue regarding the value that children have in our society.
So no comment from any I can see from the left, well it seems as if there are more important things to do like traffic, or hiding files so they dont exist to help police statistics.
So S59 was all just part of the game and it looks good atthe UN, and we will not be found out and be called on in action? MIA I think
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Back to Naked Short Selling…
I think we should all chip in and buy a pair of naked shorts as an offering to the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
I think ‘ol pinky would look pretty punk in them.
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Daphne Drogheda found me through this thread – I’m hiding out and selling all my naked longs.
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Mark – don’t sell yourself short. Tell us more about your naked longings!
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Slip on a Naked Thong! So sleek, you’ll hardly know you’re wearing it!
Available in all colours (so long as it’s pink!)
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Dear ‘Mark’
Is that you Gordon?
Come back to me sugar!
(I’ve kept my naked nickers)
Daphne
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Oh Gawd! All right – doesn’t involve getting into bed with the new Budget does it?
How can you budge-it when it’s dead in bed?
Gordon is busy letting down the hemline of his new Kilt.
I’ve missed you too Daff – have you got rid of that jonkey yet?
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Kilt! – I’m thinking ‘jilt’ and don’t talk to me about ‘dead in bed’ – it’s been a long, long couple of decades.
The jonkey failed on the day I bought it but it was so hard to detach I had to wear it for almost three years and oh, how it chaffed!
Still collecting Princess Di crockery?
‘Daffy Ducks’ (remember?)
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Go with the latex Daphne – you haven’t forgotten the honeymoon already?
When John was still new and Dr Simon had ‘nervous issues’
When Gerry got offside (well half)
And Rodney was still a shrinking violet
Oh yes! Di and I; – everytime I begin a new Chapter, I weep Daff.
So sorry I knocked her back
But then – even Dumbo went for the rottweiller
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“When I contemplate the natural dignity of man; when I feel … for the honor and happiness of its character, I become irritated at the attempt to govern mankind by force and fraud, as if they were all knaves and fools, and can scarcely avoid disgust at those who are thus imposed upon.” — Thomas Paine – (1737-1809)
See Darling? it’s been going on awhile (does not mean it has to be this way)
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http://whoar.co.nz/2010/vegan-runner-breaks-american-24-hour-record/
he ran 165 miles…in 24 hrs…
(you go..!..you good vegan..!..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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yea to that Phil – killing animals is primeval and frankly, anti-Biblical
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I like tuna.
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sapient fishes for a fight
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I think he means Tina Tuna lusty…
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Pacific Bluefin Tuna; smoked or with a sweet chili sauce/marinade.
Yum. The only meat I buy; my favorite.
Beets those silly tetra-pods fins down! Not even pastrami, shaved ham, or a good salami can compare! Steak? Who needs it?
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Can’t argue there – though the Yellowfin may feel miffed
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Sashimi, only way to go, any other adulteration is an abomination.
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A guy gave me a whole lot of tuna a few years ago, the thing was so big he was carting it around in a tandem trailer cutting off chunks for his mates!
Aaa laaa tuna fish sand-wid-giz!!!
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Sashimi, sure; if you like plenty of nemotode life throughout your body and even your brain.
The soy isoflavones don’t exactly help much either.
That said, tunas not great with mercury, but I’m already as mad as a hatter.
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Sam is known for a certain rawness…agreed! More!
Shunda! – beware fish from a wheelbarrow – did you try some? Must have been all right he was giving it away in the correct quantities – knew what he wiz doin huh?
Sapient – a pin-prick in the fontenal artery will allow you to run off excess mercury.
These are Fishy Tales for sure
Who is going to recommend Mermaid?
Prepared by lightly informing her of regrettable appetites entreaties and financial offers.
Not too persuasive when you de fish mon.
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Mermaid? Too fatty; might as well eat low quality Auroch.
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thanks kevin..a link will be good..
..i’ll http://whoar.co.nz/ it…
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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nice to see a real mix of opinions !
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…and just look who’s been stealing my colours – hey!
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Those restaurants with the tanks filled with fresh mermaids for the customers to select from – is that an ethical practice?
I know I’ve stood in front of them for hours, trying to decide…
tracing my finger on the glass…
salivating…
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welcome to the multi-wived wor4ld of the Moslem Fly….
why did you think the yanks loved it?
austerity?
hah
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Oh, yeah. Its “everybody draw Mohammad day today” is it not?
What do people think about this approach? I would love to do a study on it. It would be the biggest ever behavioral manipulation.
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i was going to post a picture of jesus christ sap.
mohamet, buddha – anything resembling peace.
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what, in fact, do you think of ‘Draw Mohamett Day’ Sapient?
I suppose it would be a “hang jesus” gang that would cop the schadenfr…
schadenfute… shame
which wise poster quoted it? Kahakitea perhaps…
They came for the jews and i was not jewish…
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Mark,
Just had an interesting discussion. I am thinking that I may end up studying it. The first massive group study of group behavior manipulation. Would be very controversial, very interesting.
On the whole the approach is behaviorally sound and theoretically should be rather effective but produce an initial surge before it drops away. It will be so interesting exactly because there is so little literature on even moderately large groups, and this one would be a group of hundreds of thousands potentially; its unprecedented. With such a large group its so complex that one can hardly predict the effect with any real accuracy.
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Mark,
I quote that piece frequently.
Though in this situation its more:
“They came for our freedom to cause offense, but i did not want to offend so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to dissent politically, but i did not want to dissent so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to wear two pieces, but i did not like the skinny girls in two pieces enough to justify the fat girls in two pieces so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to came for my budgy smugler, but i did not wear it so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to wear provocative clothing, but i did not like not being able to have my way despite being so turned on so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to procreate outside of wedlock, but i could not so I stood silent,
They came for our freedom to oggle the other sex, I objected, but I was blind; i could do very little.”
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Not controversial to baby-boomers….ime they are shockproof (neary)
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Did you draw, Sapient?
Perhaps we could ask Key to scribble a likeness on a napkin and put it on Trademe. He’d get more coverage than he got from Letterman and his ‘cannibal’ comment put together!
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and i thank you, and say you haven’t done it half-enough yet
when i stole the family
rowboat
at 5 every morning
amid mist the cheif caught me
every time i tried
Cried ‘Weak Boy?’
and threw me their boat
and never told for fifty years
I don’t know men like that now.
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is god’s name Darwin?
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Did I draw? No.
My immense artistic talents are… fermenting.
I think it is an interesting approach and I approve of it but I need to maintain a face of neutrality, somewhat. Universities are political places.
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Concerning fish:
How We Wrecked the Oceans
Peak Fish and the Biodiversity Crisis
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Tony,
Try this one.
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adiuew – every time you see a mirror
you see a sad monkey in decline
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meaning we are spliced sometime
lost and found
hard to be a constant
Good on you Greens!!!
Never lose the the rruth!
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its national draw muhammad day 20th May here in the US
I hope everyone joined in and has drawn a picture of muhammad in support of liberty and freedom of speech.
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Turnip,
A bit late, you are.
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Miss USA is going to pole dance in a burkha to celebrate! And go ‘naked short’ to boot.
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I guess I should contribute.
How can I compete with miss USA?
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I decided to hunt for our turban wearing friend. The first part of the job was to leave the post-grad computer room where everyone else was wearing turbans. I eventually found him in the my department’s post-grad room.
He did not mind my presence at first.
But then I suggested the virgins might be white raisins.
Turns out heaven is real, cant work out why I am here though.
(I know this post is going to come back and bite me somehow)
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go sister
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Another worrying talk, Sapient.
Fish is now off my menu.
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“We’re interested in outcomes, what you do out on the water on your boats is your business, it is the outcomes that we’re focused on.
“http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/3722232/Fishing-industry-self-rule-supported
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Scientists create artificial life…
Yay I’ll never have to make love again!
I’m so happy
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More evidence that the anti smacking law is extremely destructive to families:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10646627
the emotional harm done to that kid because of this law could be life long, absolutely appalling.
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Samiam,
Indeed, though it will be awhile until we can make humanoids; its only 10^3 times more DNA to sequence.
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In the meantime sam, you’ll do as she tells you!
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We make humanoids automatically…. somehow or other 2 units that may be differentiated by shape and dress succeed in creating small, slowly growing pre-humans within a year of encountering one another. Not all such encounters appear to be successful but no technical intervention appears to be required. This method appears to be successful in that these humanoids are able to replace the originals and more, and have spread to cover the entirety of the habitable earth and Australia.
respectfully
BJ
“…mirrors and copulation are abominable, since they both multiply the numbers of man.” – Jorge Luis Borges
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Where others believe that mirrors and copulation are a hell of a good combination!
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I think the chances of human induced disease just increased exponentially.
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Naked shorts, mirrors, Miss USA, copulation, oh, and a pole. This is getting better all the time. ;^)
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Can’t find my shorts – ah Braille! – now Double-Dipton is calling ‘Cut’ an emotional term…
There’s a lot of them in Nature, emotional terms; Tuna nothwithstanding.
And the Poles are disgusting!
Tear thyself away o wretched eyes.
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them”: George Orwell
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Double-Dipton = Bill-ya-later!
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Should be Bull English Technically
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why the hell can’t you program this site to put up a fresh general thread..every couple of days..
the last was the 17th..(with 92 comments..enough..!..already..!..)
i am not the first to ask you this..
are you some kind of trans-animal….and pig-headed..?
or is there some other reason you think this ‘not worth’doing…?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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this is the only green forum in this country…
why don’t you nurture/grow it more…?
(i can’t be bothered..again..listing the reasons for that…eh…?)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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If you don’t give us a regular general thread Frog,
the orangutan gets it!
http://www.jetbobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/orangutan.jpg
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What do you think that fuzzy little critter is looking at greenfly?
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Miss USA
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it IS Miss USA !
Cute lil’ thing
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