Tourists speak out on mining National Parks

Greenpeace has taken a more serious angle with their latest video, which has our fearless duo, Lucy Lawless and Robyn Malcolm, talking to tourists about John Key’s plans to mine our National Parks.

Obviously, I think this is a stupid idea, and if you are in Auckland tomorrow, please join Metiria at the Greenpeace rally in opposition to mining Schedule 4. It’s at 11 am on Lower Queen Street. Details are here.

20 thoughts on “Tourists speak out on mining National Parks

  1. What? we are letting tourists tell us what to do with our country now?
    Whats next? Letting the UN overrule our democratic government. oh wait….

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  2. I get the feeling that the entire political and community establishment is being run rings around by Nactional. You are all reacting to proposals – to change this, mine that etc. The pattern is pretty clear, flag some significant unpopular change, let everyone divest their energy protesting about it and then slip through some innocuous looking bill that changes the political landscape entirely.

    You keep expecting them to play by the rules – but why should they? They are a revolutionary radical party fronted by a reassuring grinning figurehead.

    Rather than simply be reactive and relieved if the govt back down on their proposals, or scale back. You should use the opportunity to take new ground. Hit back with proposals that go much further than just securing the status quo. Use the peoples concerns to create a new baseline of environmental standards and securities.

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  3. You keep expecting them to play by the rules – but why should they? They are a revolutionary radical party fronted by a reassuring grinning figurehead.
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    I’m no fan of their mining proposals Avowking, but revolutionary and radical? sorry dude, by American standards the are not even right wing, why do you think Key is such great buddies with Obama.
    And quite frankly if the left hadn’t pissed away the opportunity of a lifetime perhaps we wouldn’t be in this situation now.
    Not many on the left appear to understand why National are in the commanding position they are, history is therefore bound to repeat.

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  4. Best economic times in a generation and what have we got to show for it?
    labour are in the state they are in for a reason.

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  5. Shunda asks, “What have we got to show for it?”

    Can you not see anything at all Shunda?

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  6. Shunda hows about wipeing pritty much all the crown debt built up by previous governments? As debt crises are the flavour of the day, do you really think Labour screwed you over that bad?

    Typical ‘ive had my fill of state paid education, im not sick (at the moment) so have no need for public healthcare, get out of the way of my irrigators, mines and tax cuts’ attatude. Im no fan of Labour but at least they didnt sink down to the short-sighted bribery (i.e. tax cuts) that National plays. Even when they did so in the case of interest free student loans at least it was focused on building a better future for NZ and not just your back pocket in the short-term.

    Even though you say that you dont like their mining proposals you should have been smart enough to know that it is exactly the kinda policy the right will always take.

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  7. Well here’s hoping some credible opposition appears before it’s to late.
    Cause there ain’t none at the moment.
    Any one really see Phil Goof being prime minister?
    How bout deputy PM Winston?
    Please, Labour and chums have vaccinated NZers against the left for a good while yet.
    I don’t like the situation, it is too polarised, but there appear to be many on the left that stubbornly refuse to learn the lessons required.

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  8. Best economic times in a generation and what have we got to show for it?

    Well I agree, but it’s thinking National will do better that’s crazy. The 20th century parties both suffer from the same disease of GDP growth at all costs. You know what the answer is, Shunda!

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  9. I don’t like the situation, it is too polarised, but there appear to be many on the left that stubbornly refuse to learn the lessons required.

    OK, a serious challenge for you. READ THE SPIRIT LEVEL NOW! It’s only 265 pages and easy to read. In it you will discover what we’re on about re inequality and why NatLab thinking will NEVER solve our problems. Until you have read this book, you will not understand why your comments like the above are so stupid. Just do it, Shunda. The Nats haven’t closed all the libraries on the West Coast yet, have they? :-)

    (And I still really want you to read Unweaving the Rainbow, so get that while you’re out too.)

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  10. “if the left hadn’t pissed away the opportunity of a lifetime perhaps we wouldn’t be in this situation now… Best economic times in a generation and what have we got to show for it?”

    Dunno if you noticed, but Labour hasn’t been a left party for quite some time now.

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  11. I’m not sure if anyone has actually considered what Gerry Brownlee is proposing here. Everyone has just heard the words ‘mining’, ‘national park’ and ‘7000ha’ bandied about and now they’ve gone and got their knickers in a twist. In reality only 5% of that 7058ha can be mined, so only 350ha. If, in the worst case scenario, up to 500ha is mined that’s still less land than used on an average sheep and beef farm (North Island hill country farms average 550ha, South Island high country farms are 5,900ha). It’s almost not worth mentioning that there is a heck of a lot more native bush in NZ than the stuff protected as Schedule 4 and the government is proposing to upgrade the status of another 12,000ha. That land should not be seen as compensation for the land being mined but it should serve as a reminder of the small scale of land that we’re talking about. Another point worth mentioning is that over 37,000ha of land is being used in Auckland as parks. Not all of that, in fact very little of that is beautiful native bush land, mostly they’re just parks to go walk your dog in. Talk about inappropriate land use! imagine if all them people in Auckland sacrificed their 1/4 acre blocks of land and conformed to the expected restrictions of city living, like living in apartments, and that land was then opened up to farming, oh wouldn’t it be a wonderful world! Contrary to popular belief, tourism and our ‘clean, green image’ (as equally associated with our reliance on pastoral farming as to our patches of virgin bush) only contribute 9% of NZ’s GDP, whereas Agriculture contributes 17%. I don’t think the government should pike out just because a couple of celebs went bush and spun some yarn about this actually being detrimental to NZ’s reputation, nor should they be worried about a couple of tourists ‘giving advice’. To Robyn Malcolm’s statement as to whether this is the best that National’s got i can only say it’s a heck of a lot better than what labour offered. But that’s another kettle of fish.

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  12. Kelsi-Interesting argument. I guess what you are saying is that if something has been put aside for protection, taking a small part of it occasionally is alright, or breaking a promise or special covenant is fine as long as you only break it a little bit.

    What worries most of us who really care about what’s left of our natural resourses can be related to the analogy of a delicious cake that has been set aside for a special occasion, once you have a little taste you will crave for more and Gerry Brownlie’s appetite for mining appears to be growing….

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  13. Cripes!
    Kelsi presents a powerful argument for abandoning our principles and undermining the work of those who went before us to establish ‘protected in perpetuity’ places of value.
    Where did s/he come from and what magic is this s/he weaves?!?

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  14. All in favour of said mining should have their names and phone numbers nailed up in every town square – bit of ipso-facto voting what?

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  15. Mark,

    Well, you have mine…

    ~

    Couldn’t resist the bad pun.

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  16. I am so proud of those who marched for this cause and so happy to hear it was one of the two biggest marches in NZ history. Well done, all. So glad it was a peaceful successful one without incident. Poor Thailanders could use such luck in their protest.

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