by frog
Enjoy the autumnal equinox!
After a dirty campaign from Labor, there is a tidal shift in Tasmanian state politics, where the Greens now hold the balance of power. The Greens gained 21% of the primary vote (+6% on 2006), and have a confirmed four seats in the 25-seat Parliament with a fifth possible. Perhaps the time of old-growth logging is finally nearing an end?
Watch Greens leader Nick McKim’s election-night speech.
In other news IMF starts back-tracking on unfettered-capitalism-orthodoxy
Published in THE GAME by frog on Sun, March 21st, 2010
Tags: general debate
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
Fresh and fruity in the Deep South today.
Who’s on Q&A tthis morning?
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Russel!
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this is a must-read .. from what i have found this morning..
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/my-experience-with-a-psychedelic-plant-that-thousands-have-used-for-release-from-severe-addictions/
“..“.. “The first sign that ibogaine is working is generally a loud buzzing or ringing in the ears …
..Soon after that I begin to feel warm and things take on a light golden glow.”
but wait..!..there’s much much more..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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norman is talking logic/science/sense..
the fed guy is just moaning about ‘people like russel..’
brilliant..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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And great that the panel afterwards largely supported Russel, too! I liked the idea that water is such an important resource it deserves its own ministry, but i guess it would totally depend on the Govt directives at the time, so some dangers too I guess.
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JackRussel the giant-killer!Like or Dislike:
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So glad the rest of you get up at sparrow to let me read a summary of the interesting bits when I login. Cheers.
Now I’m off to do some autumn harvesting and garden-tidying. (aka green witchcraft – herbal preparations and jam/chutney bottling to come)
Happy Equinox, everybody, enjoy the last long day before Midwinter Solstice, when the sun swings back towards us again.
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katie – do you have an elderberry?
Recently, a lignum vitae wand came into my possession, quite unexpectedly!
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There’s an account of Tasmanian Labour’s dirty tricks here. About the same level as the bretheren, it looks like
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/03/17/134371_election.html
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Farrrar’s Most Feeble Post Ever?
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/03/watermelons_block_motorway.html
Maybe…
there have been so many …
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Very pleasing to see Michael Laws pop and fizz, like spittle on a hot plate, in today’s Sunday Star Times.
Poor man’s been gutted by the Waihopai decision.
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How about this for a conspiracy theory ‘fly:
In his spare time, using a variety of pseudonyms, Lhaws writes much of the Kiwiblog comments thread.
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Toad, please stop spelling Micael Laws’s name with silent aitches. He doesn’t like them. To be consistent, I don’t use any silent aitches in his name.
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Toad – Micael Laws is Hurf Durf!
(hat-tip kahikatea)
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Micael – smells like ‘meconium’
http://lh5.ggpht.com/ben.temchine/R-4AFYl1JVI/AAAAAAAAACQ/Z9mJHQ8ZK1c/450px-Meconium.jpg
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“..Toad – Micael Laws is Hurf Durf!..”
is that the ‘real oil’..?
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Nothing is real, Phil, ‘over there’!
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Well you are banned from kiwiblog which is real.
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i took the bait..
and asked him..
“..# Hurf Durf (1359) Says:
March 21st, 2010 at 8:16 pm
I don’t have my own radio show, sadly..”
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Laws doesn’t have a ‘radio show’ either, it’s more a scorpion pit than anything else.
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Nick McKim’s speech reminded me of why the greens are so dangerous to Governments like our own. All that talk of honest, open government and public debate is frightening stuff.
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‘fly
Currently, no elderberry; also very recently, no oak tree.
But I did knock up some applecranberry jelly out of the little crop of chilean cranberries the new bush produced.
How’s the deep south, we’re getting battered by the winds coming up the east coast of the South Island, I expect the rain will be upon us soon – did Southland miss all of that?
(I so prefer asking actual people, to relying on TVNZ, etc, to interpret metservice data acurately…)
Back on-topic;
the Greens’ campaigning always makes other parties look venal and corrupt, Tasmania is just the latest lucky recipient
frog –
good spotting, about time the IMF came clean about how neoclassical economic philosophies are the problem that has caused the global recession; now, perhaps someone can explain to them that life as we know it has to change rapidly, or else their particular version of the paradigm will cease to be sustained.
[Excellent stuff in Adbusters on this lately, going back over the past 6 months-worth of bi-monthly issues – like:
https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/85/post-autistic-movement.html
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The Crown should appeal the Waihopai decision. Idealism should be applied in creating laws or changing them, rather than in setting them aside when we’re so minded.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/opinion/3478902/Editorial-Waihopai-3-sense-0
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“There are ironies and curiosities in statements made by the trio. Their successful defence – which may yet be appealed against – to charges of burglary and wilful damage at the base was based on convincing a jury of their genuine belief that the base caused human suffering and that therefore shutting it down, if only temporarily, was legally justified. Mr Leason explained it by saying the group “broke a law protecting plastic to uphold a law to protect human life”.
The irony is that such an argument rests on the same sort of confident certainty that convinced former United States president George W Bush and former British prime minister Tony Blair that they were right to go to war against Iraq, convinced as they were of a grave danger to the world from weapons of mass destruction.
Mr Leason was asked whether he considered that New Zealand soldiers then in Afghanistan had been put at risk by his actions. He responded by suggesting that, if the soldiers were rebuilding bridges and schools, as the Government had said, then the risk was minimal.
In reality, his assessment of the risk to New Zealand soldiers’ lives could be mistaken, just as Mr Blair and Mr Bush were mistaken about the weapons of mass destruction.
The curiosity is Father Murnane’s comment outside the court that “we have shown New Zealanders there is a US spybase in our midst”. It is no great secret that there is a base at Waihopai, and nor is there a swell of public opinion against it, though it is a regular target for protesters. A nearby winery even operates under the name Spy Valley, explaining on its website that the brand “is derived from the presence of a satellite communications monitoring station (spybase) nearby, part of the Echelon Global Network”. ”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/editorials/3478568/Editorial-Waihopai-trios-logic-of-the-righteous
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Fear of the decisions of juries and voters, is the beginning of government paranoia about losing the consent of the people – and such paranoia is not a good look for those safeguarding our way of life and democracy via spying on us.
For example this government is planning to make tax changes which make only a few (much) better off, they claim to believe this will be good for the economy. That may be as much nonsense as the claim that the Waihopai action was taken in the belief that it was lawful – the government promised to give many tax cuts north of $50 – despite having no surplus to disperse they have found a way to give a tax cut north of $50 to a select few – those of their own ilk. Real belief or opportunism?
On the case, the jury allowed their defence – given it was to be reviewed for legal status by the Court of Appeal, they just passed it on to the experts. IMO the jury had a suspicion, that moral cause was their real argument (the elephant within the room), but were unable to argue it within the legal system.
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On what legal grounds, jh?
I can’t see any.
Section 269(2) of the Crimes Act states:
The defendants raised a claim of right defence – i.e that their actions were necessary to prevent loss of life in an war that is illegal in international law to help prevent further loss of life in that illegal war.
The jury accepted that the facts supported that defence.
What would be your proposed grounds of appeal? Would you argue that the Iraq war is legal in international law?
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Like I’ve said, I think the decision was unusual. But this is possibly the worst piece of reasoning we’ll see against it. First, it’s hugely more likely that Bush and Blair knew exactly what they were doing and lied to the world. There is roughly zero evidence to say otherwise. And second, it is an argument that the W3 should be held to a standard B&B would NEVER be held to – that of being tried for their crimes. Indeed it is ironic to see someone argue so.
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Absorbing mornings Cricket interrupted by bulldozers here!
Phone calls assure me that NO One is responsible – maybe I should go downtown – make sure the Courthouse doors are still ‘open for business’ – just not as we know it!
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They’re not mining the Basin Reserve are they? Surely not?
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Well Toad, it is a reserve, so naturally magnetic to bulldozers.
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aaaah…under the Bosin…..Book $!0.oo(cash)
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Sorry, bit of a past life reserected!
Basin Stories..look Tuffey batted pretty well
Teenager Tim? Pass – too young to teach…
Brendan McCullum !
– just as I’ve eschewed gambling too!
ps: Toad – the road map reads:
“If Not, Why Not?”
Didn’t stop Obama getting Health Care Basework in the USA
A pretty good effort – opponants agree if they’re there at all.
….and the Greens hold sway in beautiful tasmania…
Mean while, under the basin
legions of duffle-coated wellington poets
Sporting Manifestos, are marching silently…
They switched the dozers off anyway
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Another upside – Chris Martin scored a run today!
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As a (Semi) Retired Number 11, I was proud to see Chris Martin score.
He also has the “I’m Out…(so is everyone else…) Ritual Shrug thing going well….
I still suspect a Green Cricket Team might give those Blackcaps a hurryup
Some wgtn entreprenuer might just
put it together
Say
Watch out
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