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IEA Economist Predicts ‘Era Of Cheap Energy Is Over’
Mega Kites Could Pull Giant, Floating Power Plants
Published in Environment & Resource Management by frog on Fri, March 12th, 2010
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
The article about French bread spiked with LSD raises more questions than it answers.
1951 was in the middle of the cold war but France was on the Western side of the iron curtain so why would the CIA have any interest in conducting this hineous experiment on civilians?
And if the above mentioned was true what kind of criminal maniacs do the CIA hire?
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http://whoar.co.nz/2010/why-hitler-was-not-a-vegetarian/
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Drakula, it was an experiment in the use of drugs on civilian populations – the release mimicked the sort of action that could occur in wartime in “foreign” wars. They did trials on their own soldiers as well. They used more advanced “non drug” “bi-electro-magnetic field” techniques broadcast at Iraqi soldiers in the first Gulf War – no doubt they were trialled on unprepared civilians before as well. Members of American Mensa’s resonance group were concerned later in the 1990′s about the potential use of these technologies against/on the American public.
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Towing ships just to generate electricity sounds totally impractical to me. The idea of flying helicoptors tethered like kites to a stationary anchor has been around a while and strikes me as more cost-effective and easier to set up. Having fixed rather than moving locations is one benefit of the latter. Being able to feed power directly into the local grid is another – even if undersea cables are needed. The losses from moving the ship with all that equipment on board will be significant, and the underwater turbines won’t be small if they are generating that much power at towed speeds.
Another idea for high-altitude wind generation was to fly the kite to pull out a cable generating power as it does so, then angle the kite to kill the drag forces as the cable is reeled back in.
There is certainly a lot of wind energy up there – much more than near ground/sea level – as the wind energy extractable is proportional to the cube of the wind speed, and wind speeds increase with height.
Trevor.
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I think the sail boats and kites idea will interest those competing at a future America’s Cup.
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Unfortunately the really effective kites are motorised and computerised, which would be ruled out under America’s Cop rules or Whitbread rules. Perhaps we need a new competition – a renewable energy boat race (excluding biofuels), with a limit to the amount of precharged battery capacity.
Do I hear a request to help sail such a boat from a certain frog?
Trevor.
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http://whoar.co.nz/2010/commentwhoarhas-rightwinger-fran-osullivan-done-an-ideological-u-turnhad-an-epiphany/
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Tolley sacked in shock Cabinet reshuffle!
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What is the deal with the massive hostility against sleeper type vans all of a sudden?
There are some incredibly hostile attitudes and disturbing statements (including talk of shooting people) coming from people who quite frankly should know better.
Every second tourist vehicle is one of these things, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
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Bill English on the budget this year.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3439334/Public-sector-on-notice-for-Budget
Notable for the first suggestion that there may be incentives to encourage/reward saving included – to balance out the GST increase discouragement to spending. Which is sensible and so it’s about time this was included.
Otherwise the standard refrain about the lower $1.1B amount for new spending in the public services and otherwise investment in their favoured areas – transport, broadband and the electricity network.
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AGES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
7 – Switzerland, Nigeria, S Africa
8 – Scotland (being increased to 12), Sri Lanka
10 – England*, Wales, Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand
12 – The Netherlands, Canada, Greece, Turkey
13 – France
14 – Italy, Germany, Bulgaria, Romania, China
15 – Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Czech Republic, New York (US), South Carolina (USA)
16 – Spain, Japan, Texas (US), Poland
18 – Belgium, Luxembourg, most US states
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8565619.stm*
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Greece has pledged to reduce its deficit from 12.7% to 8.7% during 2010.
Its long-term deficit-cutting plan aims to cut the budget shortfall drastically, to less than 3% by 2012.
Concerns about its giant debts currently make it more expensive for Greece to borrow money compared to most other European nations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8565623.stm
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and youse carnivores reckon you aren’t addicted to the animal fat..?
think on..!
..eh..?
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/obesity-the-killer-combination-of-salt-fat-and-sugar/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Ah Phil; – you should have been around during the Gun Debate.
Lots of ‘Sportsmen’ came down out of the trees to express the sexual thrill and righteousness of shooting our wildlife – it was a rare treat…..sort of….well, not really….
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‘hot/oily-barrels’..and all that..?
men ‘roughing it’..?
..’blokes alone’..?
subliminal/supressed sexual-desires by the acre..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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You got all that right….and more….brave men
the smell of cordite in the morning
shoulder to shoulder, they took out deer, possums, goats
anything you like
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sharing early morning ‘woodies-times’..in a ‘hide’..?
‘who will be the ‘boner’..?’
(i could go on and on..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Feel Free…..everyone else does apparently.
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Drakula; The LA Writer James Ellroy has a fair handle on the ‘fun and games’ of your inquiry. ‘The Cold Six Thousand’ or ‘American Tabloid’ are not entirely fictional.
The Dam broke when G.Bush Sr. decided (as President) to detoxify Hoover’s FBI files by dumping them into the National Archive.
Needless to say – the real contageous stuff didn’t make it, whilst every Bus Ticket and Meal Voucher did.
Hordes of researchers have been turning over Rocks ever since – and there is enough questionable stuff there to fill a whole Library.
It’s why Politics and the Web are almost exclusively separate domains.
One of the reasons Why clipping the Web (stealthily enacted in NZ this week)is so popular with various Governments…
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That article Phil quoted was very interesting – takes the whole junk food discussion to another level, a scientific one.
Note though, it is not just animal fat but vegetable oil (corn oil) that permeates the junk food industry, as well as sugar and salt. They are all addictive substances, lethal in combination. Simply cutting out animal products won’t deal with the chocaholics and the caffeine addicts and all the other compulsive eaters of products (kettle fries etc)that are part of the picture of modern obesity.
Whatever your views on veganism, raw fish doused with lemon juice is going to be a lot less lethal in this respect than potatoes deep-fried in corn oil.
Phil, you won’t make converts by patronising and denigrating people any more than doctors can just tell people to use their will-power and not eat hamburgers and chicken nuggets.
This kind of article is much more useful to understand the science of diet than just ranting that no-one should eat or wear animal products. (How would Eskimos cope?)Education and honest discussion about food and its production will be a long, slow process but a better one in the end.
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janine..are you an eskimo..?
(b.t.w..is pointing out to people they are ‘addicted’..is that ‘patronising and denigrating people’..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Gordon Campbell sums up Tolley’s follies well…
“Yep, that’s the way to prepare kids for the complex world they will inherit. Focus relentlessly on a narrower range of subjects with fewer resources. Oh, and don’t ever ask the people who have to carry out the work, and don’t ever pilot or trial what you are doing.”
http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2010/03/11/on-the-wellywood-sign-education-cuts/
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janine..i thought my tactics were more ‘shock ‘n awe’ in nature..
(loudly) pointing out the (bleeding) obvious..
eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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That’s no way to win the heart of an Inuit, Phil.
No point blubbering. Offer her something to chew on. Seal the deal.
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Read the comments that accompany this Standard post.
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/national-parks-not-nationals-parks/
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Why bother with what people eat.
Just convince them to stop driving to McDonalds.
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wondering what to give russell norman as a gift..?
a macdonalds-voucher’lldoya..
..eh..?
(he especially likes the endangered fish..
‘mmm..!!!..endangered fish..in batter..!’..)
(‘holy setting the example there..!..batman..!’..)
i wonder if he is ever struck by a wave of irony..as he..green party co-leader..along with the other co-leader..
chows down on animal bits/carries on regardless..
eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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wondering what to give russell norman as a gift..?
How about … a break!
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Due out soon. Confirmation that Fonterra’s ‘Clean Stream Accord’ is failing (as if we didn’t know it would).
Fewer farmers are adopting the voluntary accord to keep cow shit out of rivers and streams, proving those that claim that all they needed was the chance to prove themselves environmentalists wrong, wrong, wrong!
Watch the Federation try to spin their way out of this.
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Huge Herds Ruin Rivers.
My message to the NZ Large Herds Conference-goers, in Invercargill this week for four days of whatever-the-hell-it-is they do at such-meat-and-milk-meets. Slap each other’s backs and slyly assess the milk-fat levels of the waitresses, who knows?
Huge herds ruin rivers, you bast*rds.
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how about..he/she/they stop eating animals..eh..?
kinda..giving them..the animals..’a break’..
(‘holy ‘green’-co-leaders..!..batman..!..)
it’s kinda like a labour leader running a sweatshop..
or a tory leader running a benificiaries advisory service..
it just dosen’t ‘fit’..
..eh..?
i mean..has he/they never even thought about it..?
the black ironies of them espousing green ideals..
..while waving around/eating the charred limbs of other sentient beings..eh..?
beings that have been grown/mistreated/killed..
..just for their oral gratification..?
(not to mention the environmental footprint of said abused animals..eh..?
..face it..
the/any co-leader of any ‘green’ party..
..should not still have an addiction to flesh/fat/blood..
..end of story..really..
and..seeing as you asked..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Do fat people float better than vegans? does wood float? is wood human? if wood floates and is not human then fat people (who float) are not human! Then does this make vegans human? If so therefore vegans are not witches, are they not? Then this must prove beyond all reasonable doubt that fatties are not human and are therefore witches!!!
AND WHAT DO WE DO TO WITCHES?
I am a fattie!!!
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Edward Woodwood was human. Was Edward Woodwood wooden? Would wooden Edward Woodwood walk with the witches, would he?
Would he what!
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‘corrupted’ green organisations..
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/the-wrong-kind-of-green/
(Johann Hari’s piece takes mainstream environmental groups to task for selling out their principles, often in exchange for money from the worst polluters.
We invited a range of green groups mentioned in the article to respond to Hari’s arguments in this special online forum).
At first glance, these questions will seem bizarre.
Groups like Conservation International are among the most trusted “brands” in America, pledged to protect and defend nature.
Yet as we confront the biggest ecological crisis in human history, many of the green organizations meant to be leading the fight..
.. are busy shoveling up hard cash from the world’s worst polluters–and burying science-based environmentalism in return.
Sometimes the corruption is subtle; sometimes it is blatant.
In the middle of a swirl of bogus climate scandals trumped up by deniers..
.. here is the real Climategate, waiting to be exposed..”
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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this is kinda interesting..
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/the-video-that-will-put-geithner-behind-bars/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Phil U I read that article and was amazed corruption most be one of the worst sins it is absolutely insidious we are not aware that it goes on until we see the consequences.
Greenfly: Parden my ignorance but who the he!! was Edward Woodwood?
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“Greenfly: Parden my ignorance but who the he!! was Edward Woodwood?”
I believe he was an optometrist in Timaru in the mid 20th century. Surely you’ve heard of him?
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Edward Woodward was an actor who played a detective in one of the best horror movies ever – The Wicker Man. His character was caught up in a plot by a group of pagans who believed in witchcraft…
Trevor.
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Holy Cow!
This is just sad, Anne Tolley.
Just sad.
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/03/17/tolley-has-another-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-37020
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If you turn the volume up on the video there ‘fly, you will hear a very audible “Oh, oh gawd, aw…” from Tolley before she rises to answer the first supplementary.
A sure sign of a Minister in charge of her portfolio. Not!
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I picked that up too, Toad. She knew she was screwed. So are we all.
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Drak! Sorry, I missed your Edward Woodward question.
Kahikatea’s answer is correct in all but reality. We all know that there have never been optimists in Timaru and there’s good reason for that!
I’m planning to build a wickerman and fire it spectacularly, so now that Edward has died, I’m looking for an equivalent Christian. I’m thinking Shunda.
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Oh yeah! Woodward
*mega-blush!
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Anne Tolley claims she continually meets and talks to parents and teachers around the country and National Standards are going well. NZEI and parent groups are organising meetings in large halls (Dunedin town hall next week) and are attracting hundreds of people to listen to the likes of educationalist, Lester Flockten, explain the flaws in National Standards. Anne Tolley is refusing to attend such meetings but is speaking to small groups in National Party electoral offices where she still struggles to answer important questions on how standards will lift achievement. Anne Tolley claims parents want National Standards because STA (School Trustees Association) supports her, yet boards around the country are complaining that STA doesn’t represent them and aren’t passing on their real concerns. Every time she begins to hear criticism of her baby she covers her ears and repeats to herself “20% are failing, we need standards!” She is only saying this to herself because no one else is listening.
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Little Annie Fanny’s telling lies!
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It’s not that she is telling lies, it’s just that Bill English hasn’t programmed her to say anything else.
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Bill’s Annies handler.
Mary’s Don’s snitch.
What a couple!
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Amusing to see at all the Sensible Sentencing Trust groupies getting ganglia in their goolies over at Kiwiblog re the Waihopai 3 verdict.
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Heartwarming Toad. I’m delighted for the three and I’m delighted for the Kiwiblog regulars, who say they are ‘demoralised’ by the outcome.
I’m loath to mention a loathsome individual, but or old friend Big Bro/Bruv is spitting his foamy dummy and the like-minded loons who worship at Farrar’s alter (the facts, the facts) are rolling about in it (the foam that is).
Calooh! Callay!
Oh Frabjous day!
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hehe the waihopai verdict is a rare moment of sunshine
presumably the next person who deflates the domes will get the same outcome?
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Yeah Keith
“Evidence presented at the trial, including from former British agent
Katharine Gun, showed that the Waihopai spy base was collecting intelligence
to help the United States government. This included intelligence to help the
United States prosecute the Iraq war, even though the New Zealand government
was opposed to that war.”
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It’s really reassuring that bearded hippies can be found well meaning and acting for the good of humanity. It may even be safe enough for me to grow mine back again, but how angry were those kiwibloggers again Toad….?
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Evidence presented at the trial, including from former British agent
Katharine Gun, showed that the Waihopai spy base was collecting intelligence
to help the United States government. This included intelligence to help the
United States prosecute the Iraq war, even though the New Zealand government
was opposed to that war.”
that statement is a bit suspect:
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Katherine Gun revealed that the US was spying on “swing voters” in the Security Council prior to invading Iraq
Green MP, Keith Locke, demanded confirmation from Prime Minister Helen Clark whether New Zealand knew about this spying operation against the UN. But Clark gave her standard reply that she doesn’t comment on security matters. “…New Zealanders are owed an explanation. Was our stand against the Iraq war being compromised by involvement with US and British spying on Dr Blix? Was the Waihopai satellite communications interception station, which is part of the US-run Echelon system, involved in this spying? It could have been if Dr Blix’s phone calls from Iraq passed through either of the two Pacific communications satellites that the Waihopai dishes are pointed at. The US would only need to put Dr Blix’s likely phone numbers into the Echelon system for the content of his conversations to be automatically forwarded from Waihopai to the US National Security Agency*.
http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/pr29-102.html
hot stuff!
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Does beard=hippie? maybe that is why I get those funny looks from some people.
Here is a picture of me:
http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://meetschmitt.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834b6c13569e2010535b8db66970c-800wi&imgrefurl=http://meetschmitt.typepad.com/schmittblog/2008/10/&usg=__L5RV_MAGAef8pZIMMyrbM3vSuRk=&h=616&w=474&sz=103&hl=en&start=6&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=YKBl3DEnKD4dZM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkarl%2BMarx%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the—–
Thanks Trevor 29 and and Greenfly I threw Edward Woodwoods name down the googler and all I got was a nakid swinging light bulb that exploded!
I remember seeing Breaker Morant it was a good film.
Mark I also threw James Ellroys’ name down the googler and I may get ‘the Cold Six Thousand’ next time I am in the library so thanks for that.
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That’s not a picture of you Shunda!
(That’s Mrs Barunda, I swear!)
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“(That’s Mrs Barunda, I swear!) ”
Ha ha, I’ll tell her that AFTER we have set up camp on your front lawn.
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How long does your beard have to be before you are a hippie?
Seriously I am very concerned about this!!
Is there a hippie standard? a hippie “rule of thumb” as it were?
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sprout says:
“It’s really reassuring that bearded hippies can be found well meaning and [to have believed they were] acting for the good of humanity”
still it’s not their place to unilaterally upset our security screen despite their political persuasions.
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Shunda – you’ve seen images of Jesus?
That long.
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Religious persuasions, jh.
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Spell WoodWARD Drak; – the other spelling was mild humour.
“The Cold Six Thousand” is the first in a trilogy
enjoy!
Mark
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