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Published in THE GAME by frog on Tue, February 16th, 2010
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General debate, February 16, 2010
Published: February 16, 2010
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What can be done?
Change the Water Conservation Order on the river?
The councillors of Environment Southland say, ‘No’.
Whaddayareckon?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/3332334/Water-woes-may-halt-industries-ES
“Chairman Stuart Collie said there was no suggestion the order would be discarded, but it might need reviewing or modification to align it with the Regional Water Plan.”
OIC.
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this is kinda cool..
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/mark-twain-animal-rights-activist-2/
my respect for mark twain has increased somewhat..
cos’..
‘Twain may have come to largely despise what he famously called “the damned human race,”..
.. yet he turned into a puddle of mush at the sight of a kitten..”
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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As with all water rights there should be none EXCEPT that a user of the water must collect it downstream from their outlet.
That way no water will be wasted or polluted.
Simply solution No?
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Your solution also ignores other issues of river health. Cleanliness isn’t everything. Not many water creatures thrive in distilled water.
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Nuclear power is indeed a way to reduce carbon emissions, so wy the fuss over the PM having shares in a company that helps reduce carbon emissions.
Bloody idiot.
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Frog – doing anything on the ACC rally?
I’m heading down to scoop now, on your marks….
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Anyone going to do an analysis of the choice architecture of the proposed MMP referendum questions?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3335382/Proposed-MMP-referendum-wording-released
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Uranium – why not thorium? its 3-4 times more abundant:
“A thorium fuel cycle offers several potential advantages over a uranium fuel cycle, including greater abundance on Earth, superior physical and nuclear properties of fuel, enhanced proliferation resistance, and reduced nuclear waste production.”
Oh – perhaps because you don’t get degradation products suitable for use by the military industrial complex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium
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Not that the military industrial complex is all bad
Military drive puts fuel from algae within reach
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/news/article.cfm?c_id=39&objectid=10626164
“part of a broader mission for the US military to obtain half of its fuel from renewable energy sources by 2016″
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And who developed GPS?
And canned food?
And gas turbines?
And computers?
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Yep – certainly not all good either!
Feel that complex integrated world seep its good and badness right into your bones.
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He’ll be viewing our children as ‘clients’, or more likely, given his pig-farming past, ‘stock units’.
Watch out for vouchers. Coming to a piggery near you!
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http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2010/02/brownlee-lies-about-mining-influence.html
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Brownlee – more than a touch economical with the truth.
A porker corker.
How can he slide out of that one?
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Am I the only person that remembers that the Labour Government invented vouchers?
They were called “capitalisation of the family benefit” and meant that instead of building thousands of state houses the Peter Fraser Labour Government gave people a voucher they took to the housing company of their choice.
It launched the whole group housing industry – Neil, Keith Hay, Fletchers, and so on.
So why doesn’t Labour support education vouchers since it invented vouchers in the first place?
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Btw, were these housing vouchers available to every citizen and in equal amounts?
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Go the Cleaners’ Union spokeswomen!
On John Key, ” Let him clean himself!”
Magic!
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THE KEY TO SOPHISTRY
Frog: It would be interesting to hear our MP’s views on Mr. Keys proposals of tax reform. I heard him on the radio the other day and I must admit that he is a really smooth talker.
He is trying to convince us that lowereing tax on the income of the middle/low? bracket earners and increasing the tax to 15% on goods and services (GST)is going to benefit the lower bracket workers.
Who gets to claim on expences for businesses? employees?
Surely this will further exacerbate the unacceptable trend of the ever widening gap between the rich and poor.
But Key denies this with a very dubious line of ‘logic’ or is this simply sophistry?
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This is a must-listen.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/ntn/2010/02/18/united_nations_development_programme
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Have to say frog blogareenos, the people on this blog have been far more tolerant of discussion about religion and the like than I ever thought you would be, I thank you for your civility and for putting up with my crap at times, I have learnt a lot.
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gone vegan yet..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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I tell you what Phil, you send me some recipes for your best vegetarian dishes and I will consider it.
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“Sick of hearing John Key’s mangled, duplicitous, unctuous drivel?
This is a must-listen.”
Thanks for that, Greenfly. I didn’t always like her as a Prime Minister, but that was an excellent interview.
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Watch this space.
http://www.nzagri-business.co.nz/home/free-articles/nz-rural-sector-feds-happy-after-key-flags-water-progress-no-land-tax.html
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Thanks Greenfly but unfortunately I cannot get broardband where I am and consequently I have just disconnected from Telecom.
Keep up the good work.
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here you are shunda..(and anyone else..)
http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+recipies
good eating..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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i gotta tell you shunda..
i have tried many different formulae in my life..
from heroin..to cocaine..to heroin and cocaine together..
..and so on..and so on..
but i reckon the formula i am using now is the winner..
first off..no alcohol..or any other hard drugs..
no meat/animal fats/cheese etc..
basically..a (healthy!) vegan diet..(see recipies-link..)
yoga..or some similar disciplne..(there are many roads..etc..)
and if required..some cannabis as a social relaxant/pleasure-tool..
..it really works..!
i am getting stronger/fitter/healthier all the time..
..and of course..there is the mental clarity that comes from a ‘clear’ diet..
many/most vegetarians will have had a taste of that ‘clarity’..
..a vegan diet just compounds that..
..just give it a go for a month..shunda..!..(or anyone else..)
..taste the clarity..!..(it is quite addictive..eh..?..)
(b.t.w..leapfrogging from carnivore to vegan..
and bye-passing the vegetarian waystation/halfway-house so many of us get stuck in..
..would be one class act..
and please..if you..(or anyone else)..has any questions..
..just ask..
btw 2..i look to my right..and see my beautiful half-husky 2nd generation vegan dog-companion..
..snoozing in her armchair..
..having wolfed down the vegan meal i prepared for her..and her 11 yr old mother..
..both dogs have hair so shiny you almost need shades..
..(i also use them as a tool to f#ck with vets’ heads..
..see gape-mouthed vet..!..”11 yrs old..you say..?”..)
i may have mentioned before that some weeks ago i went mano a mano with a 73 year old vegan friend..
..chopping firewood/splitting logs..for about five hours..
..( he has been vegan for over 40 years..and is a serious role-model for me..)
free the animals..and yrself/ves..!..and the planet..
i mean..tell me one reason why you shouldn’t..!
(btw..vegan diet/nutrition questions will also be answered in the whoar search-engine..
the vegan-stuff category has over a 1,000 entries/links..
http://whoar.co.nz/category/vegan-stuff/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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Sounds like you have been on a bit of a journey Phil.
Have been feeling convicted about my diet lately, it is so easy to get into bad/lazy eating habits.
Thanks for the info Phil.
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Key’s uranium stocks to rise.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1002/S00135.htm
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more ammunition..(if you need it..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/%e2%80%98gold-standard%e2%80%99-studies-show-that-inhaled-marijuana-is-medically-safe-and-effective-and-a-big-thumbs-up-for-the-vaporiser/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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