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	<title>Comments on: General debate, 15 January, 2010</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor29</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101917</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statkraft have opened their osmotic power plant:
http://www.statkraft.com/energy-sources/osmotic-power/

It is only a prototype, but the potential for energy from osmotic power (fresh water running into sea water) is around 2TW (2 million MegaWatts). This won&#039;t solve all our energy problems but it will help a bit.

Trevor.</description>
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<p>Statkraft have opened their osmotic power plant:<br />
<a href="http://www.statkraft.com/energy-sources/osmotic-power/" rel="nofollow">http://www.statkraft.com/energy-sources/osmotic-power/</a></p>
<p>It is only a prototype, but the potential for energy from osmotic power (fresh water running into sea water) is around 2TW (2 million MegaWatts). This won&#8217;t solve all our energy problems but it will help a bit.</p>
<p>Trevor.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101880</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad

It amazes me that you have concern for the human rights of &lt;strike&gt; scum &lt;/strike&gt; humans.</description>
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<p>Toad</p>
<p>It amazes me that you have concern for the human rights of <strike> scum </strike> humans.</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101876</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad

It amazes me that you have concern for the human rights of scum, leaving that aside this is still a good bill.

While it falls short of what ACT originally wanted it will give strength to the good work of great men like Garth McVicar.</description>
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<p>Toad</p>
<p>It amazes me that you have concern for the human rights of scum, leaving that aside this is still a good bill.</p>
<p>While it falls short of what ACT originally wanted it will give strength to the good work of great men like Garth McVicar.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101865</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ big bro 4:30 PM

bro, the media release would suggest that the amendments proposed render the Bill something completely different from ACT&#039;s/Garrett&#039;s original 3 strikes bill.

I await the detail, but at first pass the amendments seem to address many of my original concerns about the Bill being unfair and offensive to human rights.

I&#039;m still concerned that someone who, as an irresponsible youth, gets two convictions for wounding with intent can subsequently lead a blameless life for 30 years and then will get banged up for life if he or she is found guilty of a vehicular manslaughter.

I suppose the &quot;manifestly unjust&quot; provision can address that, but I would prefer more certainty that a person in that circumstance would receive a sentence more befitting the circumstances of the offence.</description>
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<p>@ big bro 4:30 PM</p>
<p>bro, the media release would suggest that the amendments proposed render the Bill something completely different from ACT&#8217;s/Garrett&#8217;s original 3 strikes bill.</p>
<p>I await the detail, but at first pass the amendments seem to address many of my original concerns about the Bill being unfair and offensive to human rights.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still concerned that someone who, as an irresponsible youth, gets two convictions for wounding with intent can subsequently lead a blameless life for 30 years and then will get banged up for life if he or she is found guilty of a vehicular manslaughter.</p>
<p>I suppose the &#8220;manifestly unjust&#8221; provision can address that, but I would prefer more certainty that a person in that circumstance would receive a sentence more befitting the circumstances of the offence.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101856</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deaf dumd and blind</description>
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<p>deaf dumd and blind</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101855</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!

Look out low life crims, ACT and its three strike policy is about to become law.

This is great news.</description>
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<div id='ckhide-101855' style="display:none; opacity:0.4;filter:alpha(opacity=40);">Wow!</p>
<p>Look out low life crims, ACT and its three strike policy is about to become law.</p>
<p>This is great news.</p></div>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101808</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Photo of the Royal Barbie graces the Dom&#039;s front page.
And our PM is drinking Beer From The Bottle!
John ! Don&#039;t teach our future King to be Louche and Profligate.
That is Very Australian,
Whereas We
use glasses....eh?</description>
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<p>A Photo of the Royal Barbie graces the Dom&#8217;s front page.<br />
And our PM is drinking Beer From The Bottle!<br />
John ! Don&#8217;t teach our future King to be Louche and Profligate.<br />
That is Very Australian,<br />
Whereas We<br />
use glasses&#8230;.eh?</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101807</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bro - how about that Royal Flush!</description>
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<div style="">Hey Bro &#8211; how about that Royal Flush!</div>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101806</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Toad

How about that Poneke!</description>
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<p>Hey Toad</p>
<p>How about that Poneke!</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101805</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read it earlier Toad - nice piece, though it&#039;ll make bro shitty - mocking our future King, on the Throne!</description>
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<p>Read it earlier Toad &#8211; nice piece, though it&#8217;ll make bro shitty &#8211; mocking our future King, on the Throne!</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101804</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean &lt;a href=&quot;http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/prince-william-takes-a-shit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like this&lt;/a&gt;, &#039;fly - more a criticism of the MSM than William himself, actually.</description>
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<p>You mean <a href="http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/prince-william-takes-a-shit/" rel="nofollow">like this</a>, &#8216;fly &#8211; more a criticism of the MSM than William himself, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101803</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Why &lt;/i&gt; can&#039;t we all be more like Prince William!</description>
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<p><i> Why </i> can&#8217;t we all be more like Prince William!</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101738</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thar she blows!

&quot;At the same time, he has challenged the federal government over its failed promise to take Japan to the International Court on the issue of whaling.&quot;

Mine the seas of animals Bro, mine baby mine!</description>
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<p>Thar she blows!</p>
<p>&#8220;At the same time, he has challenged the federal government over its failed promise to take Japan to the International Court on the issue of whaling.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mine the seas of animals Bro, mine baby mine!</p>
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		<title>By: tomfarmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101733</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Tony-Abbott-ETS-whaling-land-army-Turnbull-Rudd-pd20100118-ZSR72?opendocument&amp;src=rsss&quot; title=&quot;link&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shuddabe..&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>Oops.. <a href="http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Tony-Abbott-ETS-whaling-land-army-Turnbull-Rudd-pd20100118-ZSR72?opendocument&amp;src=rsss" title="link" rel="nofollow">shuddabe..</a></p>
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		<title>By: tomfarmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101731</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guys &lt;a&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; would like Big Bro and co to know - hey poets :-) - who he/they should be talking to.. karma and all..</description>
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<p>The guys <a>here</a> would like Big Bro and co to know &#8211; hey poets <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; who he/they should be talking to.. karma and all..</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101728</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;avalanche of negative karma ... absolutely! &quot;

You two fools!</description>
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<p>&#8220;avalanche of negative karma &#8230; absolutely! &#8221;</p>
<p>You two fools!</p>
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		<title>By: tomfarmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101727</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP@1.48pm

&lt;i&gt;If the process is corrupt, then how can we act on the conclusions?&lt;/i&gt;

When did you first suppose the process corrupt?</description>
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<p><a href="mailto:BP@1.48pm">BP@1.48pm</a></p>
<p><i>If the process is corrupt, then how can we act on the conclusions?</i></p>
<p>When did you first suppose the process corrupt?</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101726</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Watch your post disappear in an avalanche of negative karma as the Greens go into full censor mode.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, absolutely. 

They&#039;ve bet the farm on AGW, so they can do nothing else. Like devout Christians renouncing God, it&#039;s just not going to happen, no matter what arguments are made.</description>
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<blockquote>Watch your post disappear in an avalanche of negative karma as the Greens go into full censor mode.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, absolutely. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve bet the farm on AGW, so they can do nothing else. Like devout Christians renouncing God, it&#8217;s just not going to happen, no matter what arguments are made.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101725</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The emails show that some of them at least concede in private that the world was warmer 1000 years ago (in the Medieval Warm Period) than it is today, but the emails also show they had to get rid of the MWP from the records to claim today’s temperatures are unprecedented.

They show Team members becoming alarmed and despondent at global temperatures peaking in 1998, then slowly falling to the present, while publicly trying to hide the fact that there was a peak and now a decline.

Revealingly, they show them even smugly nominating each other for prestigious awards, using factually wrong details in the information sent in nominating letters in support of the awards.&quot;

It is quite wrong for people to pretend ClimateGate is a non-issue. It&#039;s actually bigger than the AGW debate - it&#039;s about trust in scientific process. 

If the process is corrupt, then how can we act on the conclusions?</description>
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<p>&#8220;The emails show that some of them at least concede in private that the world was warmer 1000 years ago (in the Medieval Warm Period) than it is today, but the emails also show they had to get rid of the MWP from the records to claim today’s temperatures are unprecedented.</p>
<p>They show Team members becoming alarmed and despondent at global temperatures peaking in 1998, then slowly falling to the present, while publicly trying to hide the fact that there was a peak and now a decline.</p>
<p>Revealingly, they show them even smugly nominating each other for prestigious awards, using factually wrong details in the information sent in nominating letters in support of the awards.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is quite wrong for people to pretend ClimateGate is a non-issue. It&#8217;s actually bigger than the AGW debate &#8211; it&#8217;s about trust in scientific process. </p>
<p>If the process is corrupt, then how can we act on the conclusions?</p>
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		<title>By: tomfarmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/15/general-debate-15-january-2010/#comment-101724</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how BP  displays his wholly unjustified preferences. And hoists their so-called source upon folks.

Should one go there and examine what the scientists were actually saying to each other it is very apparent that poneke&#039;s interpretation is his own. In addition, and serving to spoil any critical value poneke might otherwise claim, he makes stuff up in order to force or coerce belief (whatever) in his proposition.

Best advice I could give BP it go read that blog again, get what the scientists are claimed* to have written in emails and make his own opinion out of this.

* qv footnote — a very explicit admission and, I&#039;ll aver when push comes to shove, poneke&#039;s cop-out.</description>
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<p>Amazing how BP  displays his wholly unjustified preferences. And hoists their so-called source upon folks.</p>
<p>Should one go there and examine what the scientists were actually saying to each other it is very apparent that poneke&#8217;s interpretation is his own. In addition, and serving to spoil any critical value poneke might otherwise claim, he makes stuff up in order to force or coerce belief (whatever) in his proposition.</p>
<p>Best advice I could give BP it go read that blog again, get what the scientists are claimed* to have written in emails and make his own opinion out of this.</p>
<p>* qv footnote — a very explicit admission and, I&#8217;ll aver when push comes to shove, poneke&#8217;s cop-out.</p>
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