by frog
It’s hard for a species used to ever-expanding frontiers, but survival depends on accepting we live within limits
George Monbiot continues to speak bluntly of the reality humanity faces in this article on the Copenhagen climate summit. I was sorely tempted to post the whole thing as I did recently with another here, but instead a few excerpts and I encourage you to read the rest:
This is the moment at which we turn and face ourselves. Here, in the plastic corridors and crowded stalls, among impenetrable texts and withering procedures, humankind decides what it is and what it will become. It chooses whether to continue living as it has done, until it must make a wasteland of its home, or to stop and redefine itself. This is about much more than climate change. This is about us. …
This is a meeting about chemicals: the greenhouse gases insulating the atmosphere. But it is also a battle between two world views. The angry men who seek to derail this agreement, and all such limits on their self-fulfilment, have understood this better than we have. A new movement, most visible in North America and Australia, but now apparent everywhere, demands to trample on the lives of others as if this were a human right. It will not be constrained by taxes, gun laws, regulations, health and safety, especially by environmental restraints. It knows that fossil fuels have granted the universal ape amplification beyond its Palaeolithic dreams. For a moment, a marvellous, frontier moment, they allowed us to live in blissful mindlessness. …
Humanity is no longer split between conservatives and liberals, reactionaries and progressives, though both sides are informed by the older politics. Today the battle lines are drawn between expanders and restrainers; those who believe that there should be no impediments and those who believe that we must live within limits. The vicious battles we have seen so far between greens and climate change deniers, road safety campaigners and speed freaks, real grassroots groups and corporate-sponsored astroturfers are just the beginning. This war will become much uglier as people kick against the limits that decency demands. …
Although the delegates are waking up to the scale of their responsibility, I still believe they will sell us out. Everyone wants his last adventure. Hardly anyone among the official parties can accept the implications of living within our means, of living with tomorrow in mind. There will, they tell themselves, always be another frontier, another means to escape our constraints, to dump our dissatisfactions on other places and other people. Hanging over everything discussed here is the theme that dare not speak its name, always present but never mentioned. Economic growth is the magic formula which allows our conflicts to remain unresolved. …
But somehow this first great global battle between expanders and restrainers must be won and then the battles that lie beyond it – rising consumption, corporate power, economic growth – must begin. If governments don’t show some resolve on climate change, the expanders will seize on the restrainers’ weakness. They will attack – using the same tactics of denial, obfuscation and appeals to self-interest – the other measures that protect people from each other, or which prevent the world’s ecosystems from being destroyed. There is no end to this fight, no line these people will not cross. They too are aware that this a battle to redefine humanity, and they wish to redefine it as a species even more rapacious than it is today.
It really is time to wake up.
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Published in Environment & Resource Management by frog on Thu, December 17th, 2009
Tags: climate change, cop15, copenhagen, George Monbiot
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
What a way to start the day!
Heavier than Danish muesli!
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Seems to me the battle is between the UN and the bankers. The UN wants aid for the third world. The bankers want to keep the third world in its place, producing stuff the first world needs, but not expanding to such a point where they become a strategic threat.
That’s the real battle.
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Abandone your post on the Death Star, Blue and join Chewbacca et al to save humanity!
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Given it is the establishment that is in love with the global warming thing, I had better fire up the X-Wing.
Are we on Alderaan?
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Great article from New Scientist :
Battle for climate data approaches tipping point
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427393.600-battle-for-climate-data-approaches-tipping-point.html?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=mg20427393.600
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“But somehow this first great global battle between expanders and restrainers must be won and then the battles that lie beyond it – rising consumption, corporate power, economic growth – must begin”
Mombiot doesn’t see population as an issue as rich people do by far a greater share of the polluting. Rich people are just poor people with money, IMHO.
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Any government which fails to share the fruits of such research with its citizens has no business collecting taxes in the first place.”
Nice.
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BP – you are SO right. The problem is that the bankers run the OECD. World leader sock puppets mouth the words, but the bankers run the world. THEY are the ones threatened by this. They have to give up some of their control over how wealth gets distributed (mostly to themselves) and they really REALLY do not like it.
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Very social democratic of you. It was the National govt of the 90′s that transformed the DSIR from a public good science organisation to a bunch of state owned but solely commercially focused organisations. So that’s what you get when public good is narrowly defined as wealth creation.
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This has been a common ploy of governments around the world. User-pays. It is understood by some of us as a means for relieving the wealthy of the tax burden of paying for government. Making government into a quasi-business.
Making national parks the private domain of those who can pay the entry fees is one of the clearest expressions, but it applies to libraries and all other forms of public service. It is a popular notion among those who have repeatedly had their taxes reduced under the more conservative regimes of the past few decades. Its failings here are shown in the effects on science… but in most cases the people who suffer are simply poor and powerless. Their children are the ones who have no library to go to, no parks to camp in… there is a difference between a “nanny state” and the provision of public services that has been blurred in the rhetoric.
We are losing something. It was lost in the US decades ago. I think we are learning a lesson here, perhaps too late.
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Nice post, Frog, if a little hard on the digestion.
In a rush right now to make the post office, but I’ll read the long link later, thanks for that.
Keep keepin’em honest!
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Key out, Rudd in. Shame.
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Is Groser, Bolger?
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Carter chastised – what a schmuck!
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Tremain shamed. Another regretful Tory episode.
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Can a tiger cheeta cougar?
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Sadly, it is not just the official parties. I rarely see evidence that someone accepts the implications of living within our means. Even on a green blog. That’s why I have little hope, currently, that we can avoid collapse.
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Lion Tiger, felin’ … pause …
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.. nah! Can’t match ya samiam!
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We in the West have bought the myth that ‘more is better’ and we grasp for it as a drowning man gasps for air – because it ultimately doesn’t deliver what it promises, just like any addiction. It’s a mere momentary buzz. So, of course we can’t live within limits. That would mean facing the truth – economic growth and consumerism don’t work and we are left with our finiteness. No wonder I spend so much of my working day with depressed people, who have all the stuff in the world but are fundamentally disappointed and disillusioned.
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BP said
Gosh I actually clicked on the thumbs up button for BP. Progress.
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Can a tiger cheeta cougar?
Only if it’s really Lion.
BJ
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Tiger’s Catastrophe?
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Jenny says …
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-18122009/
Phew! She’s good!
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Tiger’s much too wooden.
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