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		<title>By: AJS</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/16/acc-changes-hurt-sexual-violence-victims/#comment-106192</link>
		<dc:creator>AJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sapient: &quot;... it is true that only a very small amount of those whom are on the receiving end will actually end up suffering any trauma at all.&quot; Where is your proof of this? How could you possibly know? I will go out on a limb and say that you have probably not been sexually abused because you do not seem to understand the effect it can and does have on people&#039;s lives. ACC&#039;s sensitive claims unit spends $18 million a year rehabilitating and supporting victims of sexual abuse. That&#039;s it. There is no risk at all of overspending or of wasting taxpayers&#039; money. How dare you talk about the effects of sexual abuse being &quot;constantly on their mind&quot; as if it just takes a bit of strength to get over. You try living with the effects of childhood abuse. It&#039;s bloody difficult not to have it constantly on your mind when it affects every aspect of your life and has done since childhood. Counselling involves far more than just &quot;talking&quot;. It is damn hard work and is not fun or something somebody would choose to do. If you haven&#039;t had a childhood where you have formed strong bonds with good adults and have felt safe and secure because you have someone to look after your best interests, that does affect your life forever. It can take a lot of hard work and support to silence the little voice telling you what a bad person you are to have had this happen, that you must have done something to &quot;attract&quot; the abuse and that therefore you are worthless and can&#039;t expect people to treat you with respect or genuinely care for you. Just please think before you assume anything about how something as destructive as sexual abuse can affect people.</description>
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<p>@sapient: &#8220;&#8230; it is true that only a very small amount of those whom are on the receiving end will actually end up suffering any trauma at all.&#8221; Where is your proof of this? How could you possibly know? I will go out on a limb and say that you have probably not been sexually abused because you do not seem to understand the effect it can and does have on people&#8217;s lives. ACC&#8217;s sensitive claims unit spends $18 million a year rehabilitating and supporting victims of sexual abuse. That&#8217;s it. There is no risk at all of overspending or of wasting taxpayers&#8217; money. How dare you talk about the effects of sexual abuse being &#8220;constantly on their mind&#8221; as if it just takes a bit of strength to get over. You try living with the effects of childhood abuse. It&#8217;s bloody difficult not to have it constantly on your mind when it affects every aspect of your life and has done since childhood. Counselling involves far more than just &#8220;talking&#8221;. It is damn hard work and is not fun or something somebody would choose to do. If you haven&#8217;t had a childhood where you have formed strong bonds with good adults and have felt safe and secure because you have someone to look after your best interests, that does affect your life forever. It can take a lot of hard work and support to silence the little voice telling you what a bad person you are to have had this happen, that you must have done something to &#8220;attract&#8221; the abuse and that therefore you are worthless and can&#8217;t expect people to treat you with respect or genuinely care for you. Just please think before you assume anything about how something as destructive as sexual abuse can affect people.</p>
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		<title>By: stuartbramhall</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/16/acc-changes-hurt-sexual-violence-victims/#comment-99716</link>
		<dc:creator>stuartbramhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find particularly frightening (as a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist) is that ACC is now systematically denying claims from children (male and female) who have been recently raped. The preponderance of evidence shows that sexually abused children who receive early treatment experience a good recovery - and that those who fail to receive treatment place a significant demand on the mental health and criminal justice system in later life. It is extremely short sighted of the National government to implement a policy with such drastic (and expensive) long term consequences for purely ideological reasons.</description>
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<p>What I find particularly frightening (as a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist) is that ACC is now systematically denying claims from children (male and female) who have been recently raped. The preponderance of evidence shows that sexually abused children who receive early treatment experience a good recovery &#8211; and that those who fail to receive treatment place a significant demand on the mental health and criminal justice system in later life. It is extremely short sighted of the National government to implement a policy with such drastic (and expensive) long term consequences for purely ideological reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapient</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/16/acc-changes-hurt-sexual-violence-victims/#comment-99543</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should have a discussion/debate about what can actually be done to prevent the sexual abuse happening in the first place. It is something I am certain should be tackled.

Just as a side note, while it may be considered terrible that there is such a high incidence of rape and molestation, it is true that only a very small amount of those whom are on the receiving end will actually end up suffering any trauma at all. Because of this and the high incidence of rape and molestation it makes sense for ACC to use such measures as, because of the massive prevalence, even a small percentage of claims being false posses a massive cost on ACC and, through higher levies, on everyone else.

Additionally, it can hardly be called re-traumatisation as if the trauma did not persist there would be no interference with their ability to work sufficient hours to support themselves and as such there would be no legitimate reason to claim ACC compensation. The choice to make the claim belongs to the claimant and if they seek compensation then that compensation is only deserved if the trauma interfares substantially with their life; this only happens if it is constantly on their mind. If it is constantly on their mind there is little harm to come from their talking to experts.</description>
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<p>Maybe we should have a discussion/debate about what can actually be done to prevent the sexual abuse happening in the first place. It is something I am certain should be tackled.</p>
<p>Just as a side note, while it may be considered terrible that there is such a high incidence of rape and molestation, it is true that only a very small amount of those whom are on the receiving end will actually end up suffering any trauma at all. Because of this and the high incidence of rape and molestation it makes sense for ACC to use such measures as, because of the massive prevalence, even a small percentage of claims being false posses a massive cost on ACC and, through higher levies, on everyone else.</p>
<p>Additionally, it can hardly be called re-traumatisation as if the trauma did not persist there would be no interference with their ability to work sufficient hours to support themselves and as such there would be no legitimate reason to claim ACC compensation. The choice to make the claim belongs to the claimant and if they seek compensation then that compensation is only deserved if the trauma interfares substantially with their life; this only happens if it is constantly on their mind. If it is constantly on their mind there is little harm to come from their talking to experts.</p>
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		<title>By: John Carter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/16/acc-changes-hurt-sexual-violence-victims/#comment-99289</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that has impressed me about the Biker protests has been the inclusivity of them. Practically every poster, every T-Shirt, every petition the message has always been, &quot;This is not just about Bikers&quot;.

I suspect the Bikers could be convinced to take up the cause of other victims of these changes.</description>
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<div style="">One thing that has impressed me about the Biker protests has been the inclusivity of them. Practically every poster, every T-Shirt, every petition the message has always been, &#8220;This is not just about Bikers&#8221;.</p>
<p>I suspect the Bikers could be convinced to take up the cause of other victims of these changes.</p></div>
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