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	<title>Comments on: Herd homes vs cubicles like home vs prison</title>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98758</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelp</description>
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<div style="">Kelp</div>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98755</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..some first class protien..&quot;(sic)

(that&#039;d be animal flesh/fat..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
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<p>&#8220;..some first class protien..&#8221;(sic)</p>
<p>(that&#8217;d be animal flesh/fat..?..)</p>
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		<title>By: kahikatea</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98745</link>
		<dc:creator>kahikatea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McTap wrote: &quot;Bahhumbug AaronC – perhaps some first class protien would enable you to engage in coherent debate?&quot;

what is &#039;first-class protein&#039;? and is it better than business-class or economy-class protein, or just more pretentious?</description>
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<p>McTap wrote: &#8220;Bahhumbug AaronC – perhaps some first class protien would enable you to engage in coherent debate?&#8221;</p>
<p>what is &#8216;first-class protein&#8217;? and is it better than business-class or economy-class protein, or just more pretentious?</p>
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		<title>By: wetagirl</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98740</link>
		<dc:creator>wetagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jeanette. AaronC - I&#039;m sure many will turn vegan as a response to this &amp; other dairying disasters. But it can&#039;t be the only solution. It pisses me off when the Feds tell &#039;whinging urban environmentalists&#039; (effectively) that they if they want to continue to enjoy their morning lattes they should put up and shut up. Because many of us consume dairy products it doesn&#039;t follow that we have to put up with the destruction of our environment and apalling treatment of animals...</description>
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<div style="">Great post Jeanette. AaronC &#8211; I&#8217;m sure many will turn vegan as a response to this &amp; other dairying disasters. But it can&#8217;t be the only solution. It pisses me off when the Feds tell &#8216;whinging urban environmentalists&#8217; (effectively) that they if they want to continue to enjoy their morning lattes they should put up and shut up. Because many of us consume dairy products it doesn&#8217;t follow that we have to put up with the destruction of our environment and apalling treatment of animals&#8230;</div>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bahhumbug AaronC - perhaps some first class protien would enable you to engage in coherent debate?</description>
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<p>Bahhumbug AaronC &#8211; perhaps some first class protien would enable you to engage in coherent debate?</p>
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		<title>By: AaronC</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98722</link>
		<dc:creator>AaronC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut the crap and go vegan Jeanette.</description>
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<p>Cut the crap and go vegan Jeanette.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98711</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro - you continue to support Roger Douglas, Pig-Farmer, so you’ve no credibility commenting on animal rights issues, or any other for that matter. Go back to Act’s blog.</description>
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<div style="">Bro &#8211; you continue to support Roger Douglas, Pig-Farmer, so you’ve no credibility commenting on animal rights issues, or any other for that matter. Go back to Act’s blog.</div>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/09/herd-homes-vs-cubicles-like-home-vs-prison/#comment-98707</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fly

What a pity you are not consistent, your 4.11 comment is spot on, you should apply the same thinking to benefit bludgers.</description>
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<p>What a pity you are not consistent, your 4.11 comment is spot on, you should apply the same thinking to benefit bludgers.</p></div>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When all that cow effluent gets into the hydro lakes can you imagine what your electricity is going to smell like? :D</description>
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<div style="">When all that cow effluent gets into the hydro lakes can you imagine what your electricity is going to smell like? <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </div>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But..but..but.. these companies have invested big money in investigating the feasibility of the cow-factories! Are &lt;i&gt; you &lt;/i&gt; going to compensate them, when they are stopped from going about their patriotic duty to bridge the gap between NZ and Australia .. top of the OECD.. jobs for good  McKenzie Country men and women ... stimulus for the building industry ..we&#039;ve had a recession you know ...</description>
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<p>But..but..but.. these companies have invested big money in investigating the feasibility of the cow-factories! Are <i> you </i> going to compensate them, when they are stopped from going about their patriotic duty to bridge the gap between NZ and Australia .. top of the OECD.. jobs for good  McKenzie Country men and women &#8230; stimulus for the building industry ..we&#8217;ve had a recession you know &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Hague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And people may like to have a look at these conditions for &quot;battery cows&quot; on British dairy farms using the method proposed for the McKenzie basin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-EYh4pc9X4&amp;NR=1</description>
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<p>And people may like to have a look at these conditions for &#8220;battery cows&#8221; on British dairy farms using the method proposed for the McKenzie basin:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-EYh4pc9X4&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-EYh4pc9X4&#038;NR=1</a></p>
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