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	<title>Comments on: The training wheels are off – it’s our tenth B’day!</title>
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		<title>By: Jezza</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m suprised only 2 out of the 9 MPs are vegetarians...

At 2 out of 5 that means ACT has a higher percentage of libertarians..!</description>
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<p>I have to say I&#8217;m suprised only 2 out of the 9 MPs are vegetarians&#8230;</p>
<p>At 2 out of 5 that means ACT has a higher percentage of libertarians..!</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98487</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or mice can be people, mouse!

Bro - you know and I know that you are displacing your disgust with your own heroes, Douglas and Hide et al, onto the Greens when Act and National and the lobbiests that control them are the perpertrators of the very acts you say you despise. Easy (and dull) for you to rant at the Greens lack of influence, knowing how difficult it is to change the greedy types that make up the parties you support. To make your claims even more bizzare and hypocritical is the glaring fact that the man you adore and adulate, Roger Douglas, is one of the arch-criminals in the cruel and nasty world of factory pig farming. How you can berate the Greens and keep your face straight at the same time just amazes me Bro - are you blanking the facts about Roger Douglas out each time you blame the Greens for animal cruelty? You &lt;i&gt; never &lt;/i&gt; address the issue of Douglas the Pig Torturer and I suspect you are to cowardly to talk about it now - we&#039;ll see.</description>
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<p>Or mice can be people, mouse!</p>
<p>Bro &#8211; you know and I know that you are displacing your disgust with your own heroes, Douglas and Hide et al, onto the Greens when Act and National and the lobbiests that control them are the perpertrators of the very acts you say you despise. Easy (and dull) for you to rant at the Greens lack of influence, knowing how difficult it is to change the greedy types that make up the parties you support. To make your claims even more bizzare and hypocritical is the glaring fact that the man you adore and adulate, Roger Douglas, is one of the arch-criminals in the cruel and nasty world of factory pig farming. How you can berate the Greens and keep your face straight at the same time just amazes me Bro &#8211; are you blanking the facts about Roger Douglas out each time you blame the Greens for animal cruelty? You <i> never </i> address the issue of Douglas the Pig Torturer and I suspect you are to cowardly to talk about it now &#8211; we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mouse</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98485</link>
		<dc:creator>Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Big Bro - What about repeal of section 59 of the Crimes Act? - People can be animals too.</description>
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<p>@Big Bro &#8211; What about repeal of section 59 of the Crimes Act? &#8211; People can be animals too.</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98479</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fly

Nat&#039;s and ACT never promised to do anything about animal welfare (to their eternal shame), whereas the Greens campaign on the issue every three years.
All I want you guys to do is be honest, next time around tell the people, let&#039;s have Russ stand up and say &quot;it is not Green party policy to do anything about animal welfare, river water quality or legalising dope&#039;.

The shame is all your Fly, ten years of telling lies, ten years of being Labour&#039;s lap dog and ten years of chronic underachievement.</description>
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<p>Nat&#8217;s and ACT never promised to do anything about animal welfare (to their eternal shame), whereas the Greens campaign on the issue every three years.<br />
All I want you guys to do is be honest, next time around tell the people, let&#8217;s have Russ stand up and say &#8220;it is not Green party policy to do anything about animal welfare, river water quality or legalising dope&#8217;.</p>
<p>The shame is all your Fly, ten years of telling lies, ten years of being Labour&#8217;s lap dog and ten years of chronic underachievement.</p></div>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98476</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bro - what about those abominations the present government and their Federated Friends are enacting right now - factory cows, no action on sows, plans for live sheep exports? Who are the purveyors of animal cruelty here bro? The Government - and who might they be? National and Act and Maori. Your heroes. Shame bro, shame!</description>
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<p>bro &#8211; what about those abominations the present government and their Federated Friends are enacting right now &#8211; factory cows, no action on sows, plans for live sheep exports? Who are the purveyors of animal cruelty here bro? The Government &#8211; and who might they be? National and Act and Maori. Your heroes. Shame bro, shame!</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98474</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fly

What about those animal rights you guys pretend to care about?

Ten years Fly and you have achieved NOTHING.

At least be honest with the voters, just tell that you do not care.</description>
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<p>What about those animal rights you guys pretend to care about?</p>
<p>Ten years Fly and you have achieved NOTHING.</p>
<p>At least be honest with the voters, just tell that you do not care.</p></div>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98473</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Lies Big Bro

No Substance, All Blow</description>
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<p>Here Lies Big Bro</p>
<p>No Substance, All Blow</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98471</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, have ten years passed that fast?

Lets see what you guys have achieved in those ten years, well, first we have.....actually, what HAVE you achieved?

Ten years and nothing on animal welfare issues.
Ten years and nothing on legalising drugs (thank god)
Ten years and our rivers are dirtier than ever.

Nothing you have achieved has been on &#039;Green issues&#039;,perhaps it would be more honest of your MP&#039;s (and those you rort to get into the house pre election) stopped asking for votes based on the lies you tell re animal welfare.</description>
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<p>Wow, have ten years passed that fast?</p>
<p>Lets see what you guys have achieved in those ten years, well, first we have&#8230;..actually, what HAVE you achieved?</p>
<p>Ten years and nothing on animal welfare issues.<br />
Ten years and nothing on legalising drugs (thank god)<br />
Ten years and our rivers are dirtier than ever.</p>
<p>Nothing you have achieved has been on &#8216;Green issues&#8217;,perhaps it would be more honest of your MP&#8217;s (and those you rort to get into the house pre election) stopped asking for votes based on the lies you tell re animal welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/07/the-training-wheels-are-off-%e2%80%93-it%e2%80%99s-our-tenth-b%e2%80%99day/#comment-98469</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nandor&#039;s hemp suit! Smokin&#039;!
Where is it now btw? If Nandor&#039;s not using it, it&#039;d look well on the wall at the BackBencher or where ever relics of the past are displayed (no, not the Act Party caucus, or the Progressive&#039;s AGM.)
Can anyone point me at information on growing de-natured, THC-lite hemp commercially, for fibre, carbon etc?</description>
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<p>Nandor&#8217;s hemp suit! Smokin&#8217;!<br />
Where is it now btw? If Nandor&#8217;s not using it, it&#8217;d look well on the wall at the BackBencher or where ever relics of the past are displayed (no, not the Act Party caucus, or the Progressive&#8217;s AGM.)<br />
Can anyone point me at information on growing de-natured, THC-lite hemp commercially, for fibre, carbon etc?</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trainer wheels are off. Now perhaps you can aim to actually get into government...Just like the big kids.
Go on, be brave!</description>
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<p>The trainer wheels are off. Now perhaps you can aim to actually get into government&#8230;Just like the big kids.<br />
Go on, be brave!</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to all.

It&#039;s been a wild ten years, eh?!!!</description>
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<p>Congratulations to all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a wild ten years, eh?!!!</p>
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