Comments on: Should we be worried? Damn right we should… http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/ hopping along the corridors of power Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:10:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/#comment-97702 greenfly Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:18:26 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=8030#comment-97702 In his column, Moore said: <i> Man is the only species on earth who can laugh or blush or needs to. </i> Preceeding this tag... <i> Mike Moore is a former Prime Minister of New Zealand. </i> I laughed, he should blush. In his column, Moore said:

Man is the only species on earth who can laugh or blush or needs to.

Preceeding this tag…

Mike Moore is a former Prime Minister of New Zealand.

I laughed, he should blush.

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/#comment-97701 StephenR Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:13:52 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=8030#comment-97701 <i>Looks like Mike Moore is having difficulty coming to terms with some of his “Givens” being challenged. </i> So were a few others that he talked to!! Looks like Mike Moore is having difficulty coming to terms with some of his “Givens” being challenged.

So were a few others that he talked to!!

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]]> By: Mouse http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/#comment-97700 Mouse Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:01:10 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=8030#comment-97700 Anyone seen this comment from Mike More in todays NZ Herald...> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10612602 Looks like Mike Moore is having difficulty coming to terms with some of his "Givens" being challenged. Anyone seen this comment from Mike More in todays NZ Herald…> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10612 602

Looks like Mike Moore is having difficulty coming to terms with some of his “Givens” being challenged.

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]]> By: tomfarmer http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/#comment-97608 tomfarmer Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:36:25 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=8030#comment-97608 In from Prof Jaime de Melo(Geneva) new evidence on trade, pollution, environment 'trade-off's. The following lede pretty much sums the artticle on voxeu. Now I appreciate this very much a euro-centric pov but the final sentence tells of likely kiwi-to-european market attitudes.. and more especially in terms of we CAN do rather than a weak ETS regime and reliance on do not much because of unsolvable cattle methanes etc.. <blockquote>The “pollution haven” view asserts that globalisation draws industries to countries with lax environmental regulation. This column presents evidence that the major polluting industries are not very footloose and that changes in emissions through the relocation of activities are relatively small. <b>The growth of trade itself, however, is likely to contribute to growing emissions associated with transport.</b></blockquote> That trade growth speech from the throne by PM Key (mentioned by Kennedy-Graham Sunday RNZ), and Minister Groser's banging on about FTAs - which informed folks know once anchored Bush's Trade Fast-Track program — and yes Bush's since 'his' Congress gifted unitary authority - along with Minister Smith's admission that GHG increases evidenced a "reality check" are all statements to effectively weaken NZ's position in the world. Which is taking note.. You guys are wise in taking consumers' and consequential lines.. one being 'climate debt' claimants of which the $10bn+ at CHOGM is down payment.. In from Prof Jaime de Melo(Geneva) new evidence on trade, pollution, environment ‘trade-off’s. The following lede pretty much sums the artticle on voxeu. Now I appreciate this very much a euro-centric pov but the final sentence tells of likely kiwi-to-european market attitudes.. and more especially in terms of we CAN do rather than a weak ETS regime and reliance on do not much because of unsolvable cattle methanes etc..

The “pollution haven” view asserts that globalisation draws industries to countries with lax environmental regulation. This column presents evidence that the major polluting industries are not very footloose and that changes in emissions through the relocation of activities are relatively small. The growth of trade itself, however, is likely to contribute to growing emissions associated with transport.

That trade growth speech from the throne by PM Key (mentioned by Kennedy-Graham Sunday RNZ), and Minister Groser’s banging on about FTAs – which informed folks know once anchored Bush’s Trade Fast-Track program — and yes Bush’s since ‘his’ Congress gifted unitary authority – along with Minister Smith’s admission that GHG increases evidenced a “reality check” are all statements to effectively weaken NZ’s position in the world. Which is taking note..
You guys are wise in taking consumers’ and consequential lines.. one being ‘climate debt’ claimants of which the $10bn+ at CHOGM is down payment..

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/30/should-we-be-worried-damn-right-we-should%e2%80%a6/#comment-97589 StephenR Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:13 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=8030#comment-97589 <i>we can’t be too sanguine about the longer term.</i> In the long term, agriculture will be paying for their emissions though, won't they? Leading the world and all that... we can’t be too sanguine about the longer term.

In the long term, agriculture will be paying for their emissions though, won’t they? Leading the world and all that…

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