prescient

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Jezza, You’re forgetting that Labour tried to make PT dependent on petrol taxes instead of rates/fares. National is doing us all a favour. In in 2, 5 or 8 years peak oil would have killed off Labour’s funding source for PT. National’s prescient thinking has pulled rail back from the brink of that particular abyss.

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Anyway… Great announcement, electric trains, integrated ticketing, enough to see us through till the end of road focussed policy in 2, 5 or 8 years…

Luckily Labour moved the ball enough in their last two years it couldn’t be put back in the bag…

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The uninteresting posters ought not to bother you then Blue!

Done!

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There are some interesting posters on here – Owen, BJ, Wat and others. And I love the sound of my own voice, obviously If it were just the party faithful, it wouldn’t be worth participating.

Like whatitsname….g.blog?

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Blue Peter, Hmmmm Blue Pill, Red Pill… Let me Guess?

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Greenfly, I’m just not a hippie.

I’m a foodie, I love to travel, I think a car is one of the greatest inventions ever and I think chickens are best eaten, not heard.

I find little of interest, or fun, in the green movement, other than alternative power, which I find fascinating.

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Gerrit – sidecar! (totally enclosed, soundproof).

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Then how about:
Swallow a bike, run naked, bar a hat made from live cats through a vegetable garden, tenderize the Dog with a couple of chickens…
It all depends on your approach to life Blue, perhaps it’s you who is boring!

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1- Buy a Bike. 2-Plant a Vege Garden 3-Replace the Dog with a couple of Chickens… Responsibilty for change begins with ourselves

To you, that may sound ideal, but to me, it sounds very boring.

The dog has also voted against it.

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Mouse,

Just hate taking the mother in law on the back of my bike. A terrible back seat driver in a car, just imagine on the back of a bike!

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Blue Peter, “So, you’d stop building roads” I don’t think a Country that has the worst emmissions growth for transport fuels in the OECD (1990-2006)should be Investing in New Motorways that don’t even pass the normal Payback criteria is helping anyone but the road transport lobby. See this…> http://www.theage.com.au/national/car-use-driven-by-lack-of-trains-buses-20091120-iqyq.html

recommendation… 1- Buy a Bike. 2-Plant a Vege Garden 3-Replace the Dog with a couple of Chickens… Responsibilty for change begins with ourselves

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1-No need to close small schools… Expense cutting should start with poorest Capital allocations maybe the RONS (roads of national significance)for example… Oh yeah, It might negatively impact Party donations from Mr Friedlanders friends. Can’t do that.

So, you’d stop building roads. But if we don’t have enough roads, then the existing roads will get congested. You might argue that people could use public transport, but this is rather expensive, given our low density. Also, people find it difficult to get two kids, luggage and a dog across the country in a bus.

Do we command a premium for an ethically produced product proposition…

The answer is “No”. It’s a tiny part of the food market. Most people buy on price and taste. If your answer is to target that market exclusively, who – lets face it – aren’t going to like the food miles aspect either as they are heavily into buying local, then you can kiss many of our schools goodbye.

We need to add value, certainly.

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Blue Peter –

1-No need to close small schools… Expense cutting should start with poorest Capital allocations maybe the RONS (roads of national significance)for example… Oh yeah, It might negatively impact Party donations from Mr Friedlanders friends. Can’t do that.

2-”Let’s say you impose a cost on NZ dairy that a non-ETS dairy country doesn’t have to meet. What happens? They get the contracts, and we lose them.” … It’s not the Contracts we need to worry about… it’s the Customers… Do we command a premium for an ethically produced product proposition… Or are we consigning ourselves to slug it out on price only. Q: What do you supose that is going to do for Incomes and Tax Take?

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But what 40% does is impose costs on business. This leads to reduced profitability, which leads to reduced taxation, which leads to…well…small schools being closed, for starters.

Let’s say you impose a cost on NZ dairy that a non-ETS dairy country doesn’t have to meet. What happens? They get the contracts, and we lose them. Production ramps up in those countries.

How does this help reduce c02? All you’ve done is shift the place in which it is produced, whilst reducing New Zealands income.

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Blue Peter…”how much do you want to go in debt to achieve 40%?”…

I think what you are missing here is that achieving the 40% isn’t all about spending money per se… It’s not like we can write a cheque or put it on the tab and the problem has gone away… It starts with taking Personal Responsibility for, and amending our own behaviours.

I must confessed am ammused that the Political Parties that most advocate Personal Responsibility… When provided with the opportuntiy to lead by example… simply wimp out.

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NZ Inc has been taken over by short sited, greedy, filthy Facists, who are out to achieve environmental armageddon and debt enslavment the populace.

Surely this weeks winner of the “Most Hysterical Post” award.

Tell me, if we’re currently borrowing a billion every two weeks because we can’t afford the services we provide now, how much do you want to go in debt to achieve 40%?

Should we cut services to the bone? Should we raise taxes? Should we force more business and people offshore? Who will pay your benefit?

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Surely despite any benefits, this has to be a really, really bad idea simply for the reason that the “evil National Ltd” peopel are doing it.

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Indeed new Trains for ALKD is fantastic news… Sadly I think the anouncement is all about the timing of it.

A little Greenwash for Copenhagen…to try to cover the fact NZ Inc has been taken over by short sited, greedy, filthy Facists, who are out to achieve environmental armageddon and debt enslavment the populace.

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