Comments on: The last ocean http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:16:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: greengeek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-95936 greengeek Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:16:43 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-95936 I only see two ways to preserve this area and its inhabitants. 1) Develop a strong navy and airforce and bomb the heck out of anyone who treats the area badly (A tougher version of the "Sea Shepherd" response) 2) Find a way to decrease world population in order to change the balance of "supply and demand".

I only see two ways to preserve this area and its inhabitants.

1) Develop a strong navy and airforce and bomb the heck out of anyone who treats the area badly (A tougher version of the “Sea Shepherd” response)

2) Find a way to decrease world population in order to change the balance of “supply and demand”.

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]]> By: katie http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-95430 katie Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:38:33 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-95430 This area has always been a protectorate of New Zealand, we even issued stamps for them (& I think, still do) so that scientists visiting the Ross Dependancy had their own postal system. (Which made cute souvenirs, and prompted the interest in Antartica that I have had to this day.) So few people ever get to appreciate the true beauty of this frozen sea (slushy in summer) that it slips the mind of the average conservationist. With all the publicity of the 30-year anniversary of the Erebus crash (which put a stop to aerial tourism in the region), we should be mindfull of the fact that this area is in need of protection and respect, not increased tourism, fishing contracts, or any other form of industrial exploitation of this unique environment. Put me down as a fervent supporter of fishing restrictions, and good on the Last Ocean trust for starting the ball rolling on this one. Another first strike for the Antarctic Research Centre & Dr Peter Barrett? :-)

This area has always been a protectorate of New Zealand, we even issued stamps for them (& I think, still do) so that scientists visiting the Ross Dependancy had their own postal system. (Which made cute souvenirs, and prompted the interest in Antartica that I have had to this day.)

So few people ever get to appreciate the true beauty of this frozen sea (slushy in summer) that it slips the mind of the average conservationist.

With all the publicity of the 30-year anniversary of the Erebus crash (which put a stop to aerial tourism in the region), we should be mindfull of the fact that this area is in need of protection and respect, not increased tourism, fishing contracts, or any other form of industrial exploitation of this unique environment.

Put me down as a fervent supporter of fishing restrictions, and good on the Last Ocean trust for starting the ball rolling on this one.
Another first strike for the Antarctic Research Centre & Dr Peter Barrett? :-)

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]]> By: Orik Ibad http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-95070 Orik Ibad Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:03:03 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-95070 I agree with the part to prevent it from the fate of other oceans. But about fishing, I don't agree. Instead, we must increase the fish in Ross Sea rather than prevent it from fishing.

I agree with the part to prevent it from the fate of other oceans. But about fishing, I don’t agree. Instead, we must increase the fish in Ross Sea rather than prevent it from fishing.

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]]> By: georgedarroch http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-95011 georgedarroch Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:54:07 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-95011 Agree absolutely and totally. This would be a huge conservation legacy for NZ, and protect an area larger than all our territorial waters combined. Go for it!
Agree absolutely and totally. This would be a huge conservation legacy for NZ, and protect an area larger than all our territorial waters combined. Go for it!

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]]> By: sofistek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-94999 sofistek Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:58:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-94999 Agreed, greenfly. The problem, though, is that by just treating the symptoms, it leads countries into a false sense that they are doing something sustainable. In the end, though, if any country suffers economically by agreeing to some environmental treaty, you can be sure that it will tear up the treaty.

Agreed, greenfly. The problem, though, is that by just treating the symptoms, it leads countries into a false sense that they are doing something sustainable. In the end, though, if any country suffers economically by agreeing to some environmental treaty, you can be sure that it will tear up the treaty.

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]]> By: jc2 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-94991 jc2 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:22:24 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-94991 Nice explanation of the toothfish range, in the half-way down the bottom link. The obvious solution, which will never happen, is to restrict the fishing effort away from the reservoir habitat, so that the fishermen take consequences of overfishing early. How many nations would have to agree, in order for there to be a chance of such regulation being effective?

Nice explanation of the toothfish range, in the half-way down the bottom link. The obvious solution, which will never happen, is to restrict the fishing effort away from the reservoir habitat, so that the fishermen take consequences of overfishing early. How many nations would have to agree, in order for there to be a chance of such regulation being effective?

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-94989 greenfly Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:17:50 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-94989 Agree sofistek but we are a million miles from the state you describe, 'people living sustainably'. Everything, it seems, is up for grabs and if it isn't taken in the first instance, the grabbers will be back for a second, third and fourth try, until they have what they desire. Where there's money to be made... I've always thought how unfortunate it was that the fish was named 'toothfish'. It's fate was sealed the moment it was given an unlovely title. Had it been called the 'rose-scented bubblefish', it'd never have been exploited at all (maybe...)
Agree sofistek but we are a million miles from the state you describe,
‘people living sustainably’.
Everything, it seems, is up for grabs and if it isn’t taken in the first instance, the grabbers will be back for a second, third and fourth try, until they have what they desire. Where there’s money to be made…

I’ve always thought how unfortunate it was that the fish was named ‘toothfish’. It’s fate was sealed the moment it was given an unlovely title. Had it been called the ‘rose-scented bubblefish’, it’d never have been exploited at all (maybe…)

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]]> By: sofistek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/11/05/the-last-ocean/#comment-94986 sofistek Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:00:46 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=7421#comment-94986 I agree but this is an example of treating the symptom, rather than the disease. The world's people need to live sustainably. If they did so, we wouldn't need to declare any protected areas.

I agree but this is an example of treating the symptom, rather than the disease. The world’s people need to live sustainably. If they did so, we wouldn’t need to declare any protected areas.

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