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	<title>Comments on: Dairy pollution in a protected Wild River</title>
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		<title>By: home cinama</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-87336</link>
		<dc:creator>home cinama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mohaka River is probably the most beautiful place in Hawkes Bay trout fisheries. However, we understand  that this river is now highly polluted because of that well known industrial dairy farm which has already been convicted of its crime against nature before, but as noted, this has not helped yet. 
I can see that the change seen in the water of the river is extremely horrifying.
How is it possible that they still continue with their horrible actions ? 
 The animals living in the water suffer greatly from the pollution and no one seems to care enough !</description>
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<p>The Mohaka River is probably the most beautiful place in Hawkes Bay trout fisheries. However, we understand  that this river is now highly polluted because of that well known industrial dairy farm which has already been convicted of its crime against nature before, but as noted, this has not helped yet.<br />
I can see that the change seen in the water of the river is extremely horrifying.<br />
How is it possible that they still continue with their horrible actions ?<br />
 The animals living in the water suffer greatly from the pollution and no one seems to care enough !</p>
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		<title>By: קולנוע ביתי</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-87061</link>
		<dc:creator>קולנוע ביתי</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our world is getting more and more advanced with every day that passes, this advancement and the technological improvements put aside the importance of nature. If people will continue to treat nature in such a horrible way, we will cease to survive as well. We must start and act in order to save our planet, and remember that we are a part of it as well. These actions against nature and environment are shocking and must be stopped. It is a shame to let such a stunning piece of nature go to waste.</description>
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<p>Our world is getting more and more advanced with every day that passes, this advancement and the technological improvements put aside the importance of nature. If people will continue to treat nature in such a horrible way, we will cease to survive as well. We must start and act in order to save our planet, and remember that we are a part of it as well. These actions against nature and environment are shocking and must be stopped. It is a shame to let such a stunning piece of nature go to waste.</p>
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		<title>By: עורך דין דיני עבודה</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-87060</link>
		<dc:creator>עורך דין דיני עבודה</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The strange thing is that the Mohaka river is the only one in the area of hawke&#039;s Bay that is protected by the laws of Water Protection Order. It is claimed that the Regional Council does not have the means to stop the farm from doing what it does to the river, and so the pollution will continue. However, one may suggest that the perfect solution with the most chances of succeeding, is to punish the farm owners with higher pollution fines, and to have Water Conservation Orders extend. In addition to the higher fines, I would recommend that the government will make up some new strict regulations about crimes against the environment.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nice-firma.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;שירותים משפטיים&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>The strange thing is that the Mohaka river is the only one in the area of hawke&#8217;s Bay that is protected by the laws of Water Protection Order. It is claimed that the Regional Council does not have the means to stop the farm from doing what it does to the river, and so the pollution will continue. However, one may suggest that the perfect solution with the most chances of succeeding, is to punish the farm owners with higher pollution fines, and to have Water Conservation Orders extend. In addition to the higher fines, I would recommend that the government will make up some new strict regulations about crimes against the environment.<br />
<a href="http://www.nice-firma.com/" rel="nofollow">שירותים משפטיים</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drakula</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-87056</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears to me that legislation has been watered down over the years regardless of the good intentions of the RMA.

If the public have to apply to the MOC for a Water Conservation Order then it only stands to reason that there is confusion in this area, the unscrupulous are taking advantage of this and we are seeing the results.

In the eighties we used to hear a lot about the Queens Chain: Is that not when one chain each side of a river, stream and waterway are in public ownership?

Isn&#039;t  the Riparian Rights when a land owner owns right to the centre of the stream, river etc.? I know for a fact that some farmers have RR and others don&#039;t.

I don&#039;t think applying to the ministry for a Water Conservation Order is the answer.

Acquisition of lands one chain either side of waterways would go a long way to protect the environment but sadly there doesn&#039;t seem to be any political will with this regime.

I would like to get a legal perspective on this as I suspect that there has been a lot of argy bargy going on.</description>
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<p>It appears to me that legislation has been watered down over the years regardless of the good intentions of the RMA.</p>
<p>If the public have to apply to the MOC for a Water Conservation Order then it only stands to reason that there is confusion in this area, the unscrupulous are taking advantage of this and we are seeing the results.</p>
<p>In the eighties we used to hear a lot about the Queens Chain: Is that not when one chain each side of a river, stream and waterway are in public ownership?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t  the Riparian Rights when a land owner owns right to the centre of the stream, river etc.? I know for a fact that some farmers have RR and others don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think applying to the ministry for a Water Conservation Order is the answer.</p>
<p>Acquisition of lands one chain either side of waterways would go a long way to protect the environment but sadly there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any political will with this regime.</p>
<p>I would like to get a legal perspective on this as I suspect that there has been a lot of argy bargy going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakula</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-87053</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with JC the only language they understand is:

PRISON AND CONFISCATION OF LAND.

Fines are only usefull to settle expences of the victims</description>
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<p>I agree with JC the only language they understand is:</p>
<p>PRISON AND CONFISCATION OF LAND.</p>
<p>Fines are only usefull to settle expences of the victims</p>
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		<title>By: John Carter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86905</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;$37,500 is small change to a farming operation of this size. A fine 10 times as great is more realistic.&lt;/i&gt;

Making it a fine (of any size) makes it a &quot;It&#039;s just money&quot; economic decision. 

probability of getting caught * (Size of fine * (1 - probability of getting away with it) + cost of weaseling lawyer to help you get away with) vs cost of cleaning up


Given the probability of getting caught is very low, and the probabilty of getting away with it is high, and the cost of clean up is very high... and both are smallish compared to the turnover of such a business...

Couple that with businessmen are fundamentally optimists that naturally &quot;feel lucky&quot; and who have a strong attitude (just ask Blue Peter) that if only the gubbmint would go away and stop bothering them, all will be well....</description>
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<p><i>$37,500 is small change to a farming operation of this size. A fine 10 times as great is more realistic.</i></p>
<p>Making it a fine (of any size) makes it a &#8220;It&#8217;s just money&#8221; economic decision. </p>
<p>probability of getting caught * (Size of fine * (1 &#8211; probability of getting away with it) + cost of weaseling lawyer to help you get away with) vs cost of cleaning up</p>
<p>Given the probability of getting caught is very low, and the probabilty of getting away with it is high, and the cost of clean up is very high&#8230; and both are smallish compared to the turnover of such a business&#8230;</p>
<p>Couple that with businessmen are fundamentally optimists that naturally &#8220;feel lucky&#8221; and who have a strong attitude (just ask Blue Peter) that if only the gubbmint would go away and stop bothering them, all will be well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Carter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86879</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Where are the sensible sentencing trust when we need them. These polluters should be in PRISON&lt;/i&gt;

Where are they? As I understand the connections, the SST&#039;s legal team and partners are busy lobbying to make it easier for large foreign corporations to buy large chunks of NZ....</description>
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<p><i>Where are the sensible sentencing trust when we need them. These polluters should be in PRISON</i></p>
<p>Where are they? As I understand the connections, the SST&#8217;s legal team and partners are busy lobbying to make it easier for large foreign corporations to buy large chunks of NZ&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86831</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the Man from Fonterra is in charge of New Zealand&#039;s water quality, this terrible situation will be remedied &lt;i&gt; quick smart! &lt;/i&gt;  .

Farmers - they&#039;re &lt;i&gt; all &lt;/i&gt; environmentalists! 

(It&#039;s a well known Fed Farmers spun FACT!)</description>
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<p>Now that the Man from Fonterra is in charge of New Zealand&#8217;s water quality, this terrible situation will be remedied <i> quick smart! </i>  .</p>
<p>Farmers &#8211; they&#8217;re <i> all </i> environmentalists! </p>
<p>(It&#8217;s a well known Fed Farmers spun FACT!)</p>
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		<title>By: Drakula</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86828</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What use is a fine when these agri-business outfits shell out as if they were buying a cup of coffee.

The only language these people understand is;
(1) prison and (2) confiscation of property.

Would not a &quot;Queens chain&quot; kind of law go a long way to protect rivers?
I have posed this question before on Frogblog;
 What has happened to the QC?
Has it been replaced by riparian rights? Because if that is the case then the environment is in very serious danger and the RMA will be ineffective.</description>
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<p>What use is a fine when these agri-business outfits shell out as if they were buying a cup of coffee.</p>
<p>The only language these people understand is;<br />
(1) prison and (2) confiscation of property.</p>
<p>Would not a &#8220;Queens chain&#8221; kind of law go a long way to protect rivers?<br />
I have posed this question before on Frogblog;<br />
 What has happened to the QC?<br />
Has it been replaced by riparian rights? Because if that is the case then the environment is in very serious danger and the RMA will be ineffective.</p>
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		<title>By: kiore1</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86699</link>
		<dc:creator>kiore1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the sensible sentencing trust when we need them.  These polluters should be in PRISON</description>
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<p>Where are the sensible sentencing trust when we need them.  These polluters should be in PRISON</p>
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		<title>By: vanillaseven</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86678</link>
		<dc:creator>vanillaseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upping pollution fines must be followed with a strict regulations and implementation of the official involved. Make sure they pay for all the damage they&#039;ve done.</description>
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<p>Upping pollution fines must be followed with a strict regulations and implementation of the official involved. Make sure they pay for all the damage they&#8217;ve done.</p>
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		<title>By: uberdean</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86672</link>
		<dc:creator>uberdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complete rubbish literally, who do these people think they are?</description>
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<p>Complete rubbish literally, who do these people think they are?</p>
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		<title>By: groucho</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86664</link>
		<dc:creator>groucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$37,500 is small  change to a farming operation of this size. A fine 10 times as great is more realistic. Then it would register in their avaricious minds  that  they&#039;re doing &quot;sumfink wrong&quot;.</description>
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<p>$37,500 is small  change to a farming operation of this size. A fine 10 times as great is more realistic. Then it would register in their avaricious minds  that  they&#8217;re doing &#8220;sumfink wrong&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: rimu</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/08/04/dairy-pollution-in-a-protected-wild-river/#comment-86662</link>
		<dc:creator>rimu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely bloody trashed. Bastards</description>
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<p>Completely bloody trashed. Bastards</p>
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