Comments on: One Way to Free the World From War http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/ hopping along the corridors of power Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:14:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Drakula http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84854 Drakula Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:47:10 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84854 Rach;"There is no way to either stop or predict war for the long term" What a load of reactionary superstition, wars can and have been prevented (El Salvadore, Venezuela of late) If it wasn't for the unification of Europe God knows what state the world would be in. And were there any wars within the defunct USSR? as much as people found it oppresive. Such statements attest that humans live in a state of fate and those of subjective minds leave their lives in the hands of the gods. Those Gods (with a small g) are usually demi-gods with a well planned hidden agenda for control and tyranny. Those who can best predict the future are those who have planned for the future and if the agenda is open,honest and sustainable then there is no reason why it can't be put into practice. Collectively humans can control their destiny!!!!!!!!!! Rach;”There is no way to either stop or predict war for the long term”

What a load of reactionary superstition, wars can and have been prevented (El Salvadore, Venezuela of late) If it wasn’t for the unification of Europe God knows what state the world would be in. And were there any wars within the defunct USSR? as much as people found it oppresive.

Such statements attest that humans live in a state of fate and those of subjective minds leave their lives in the hands of the gods. Those Gods (with a small g) are usually demi-gods with a well planned hidden agenda for control and tyranny.

Those who can best predict the future are those who have planned for the future and if the agenda is open,honest and sustainable then there is no reason why it can’t be put into practice.

Collectively humans can control their destiny!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Sapient http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84771 Sapient Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:11:29 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84771 <blockquote> I would like to see a sensible discussion on what causes war and how humankind can address that problem. </blockquote> The primary cause is people with ambition whom seek to manipulate others in the expectation of benefit for themeselves. The secondary cause is te hatred resulting from feelings of victimisation; both the hatred and feeings of victimisation normally caused to burn via the efforts of the aforementioned type of individual. Prevention? Tall poppy syndrome would go pretty far, would stop alot of good things unfortunatly too. Education would help nullify the victimisation and hatred and make people less easy to manipulate. A bill like Kennedy's could go far in creating anti-warmonger attitudes. As to birth control; being serious now, war is more likley to increase the population that decrease it as a response to teh increased displacement and poverty and the higher death toll.

I would like to see a sensible discussion on what causes war and how humankind can address that problem.

The primary cause is people with ambition whom seek to manipulate others in the expectation of benefit for themeselves. The secondary cause is te hatred resulting from feelings of victimisation; both the hatred and feeings of victimisation normally caused to burn via the efforts of the aforementioned type of individual.

Prevention? Tall poppy syndrome would go pretty far, would stop alot of good things unfortunatly too. Education would help nullify the victimisation and hatred and make people less easy to manipulate. A bill like Kennedy’s could go far in creating anti-warmonger attitudes.

As to birth control; being serious now, war is more likley to increase the population that decrease it as a response to teh increased displacement and poverty and the higher death toll.

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]]> By: Valis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84760 Valis Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:28:59 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84760 Yes, just let wars happen. No reason to comment. Few have discussed on the substance of Kennedy's bill, which is to be able to hold accountable NZ leaders under NZ law if they join an action in another country deemed illegal under international law. Do you disagree with that too, or was the purpose of your post really just to spam us with your website? Yes, just let wars happen. No reason to comment.

Few have discussed on the substance of Kennedy’s bill, which is to be able to hold accountable NZ leaders under NZ law if they join an action in another country deemed illegal under international law. Do you disagree with that too, or was the purpose of your post really just to spam us with your website?

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]]> By: Rachel01 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84756 Rachel01 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:51:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84756 As said by fin, 'war as population control'?? no, you'd never have control over it anyways, i.e. both population and war. i disagree the comments voiced in the podcast by Kennedy Graham. There's no way to either stop or predict war for the longterm. All these are truly political statements and should just be ignored. <a href="http://progesteronedeficiency.net/" rel="nofollow">progesterone deficiency</a> As said by fin, ‘war as population control’?? no, you’d never have control over it anyways, i.e. both population and war. i disagree the comments voiced in the podcast by Kennedy Graham. There’s no way to either stop or predict war for the longterm. All these are truly political statements and should just be ignored.

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]]> By: Drakula http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84746 Drakula Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:41:59 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84746 I would like to see a sensible discussion on what causes war and how humankind can address that problem. While eliminating people is a solution, I mean really what kind of a loose cannon would make such a suggestion and expect us to take it seriously. If it was a joke well I'm not laughing!!! I'm yawning!!! I am sure in the dark days of the early 20th century war was a kind of parental correction but those of the trenches of the 1st world war never talked about it. Today we look on the practice of cannibalism as totaly barbarac yet in renaissance Italy (and the rest of Europe) it was practiced every time a famine occured. I hope the worlds populus will one day look on wars in exactly the light. I would like to see a sensible discussion on what causes war and how humankind can address that problem.

While eliminating people is a solution, I mean really what kind of a loose cannon would make such a suggestion and expect us to take it seriously.
If it was a joke well I’m not laughing!!! I’m yawning!!!

I am sure in the dark days of the early 20th century war was a kind of parental correction but those of the trenches of the 1st world war never talked about it.

Today we look on the practice of cannibalism as totaly barbarac yet in renaissance Italy (and the rest of Europe) it was practiced every time a famine occured.
I hope the worlds populus will one day look on wars in exactly the light.

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]]> By: Shunda barunda http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84743 Shunda barunda Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:17:27 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84743 "StephenR I defer to your quicker trigger-finger and nimbler noggin." And you mister fly, should apologize to me for your over zealous religion hunting jump the gunnery. (this is how wars start) :) “StephenR

I defer to your quicker trigger-finger and nimbler noggin.”

And you mister fly, should apologize to me for your over zealous religion hunting jump the gunnery.
(this is how wars start) :)

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]]> By: fin http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84730 fin Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:02:35 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84730 4% of the world produces 25% GHG 4% of the world produces 25% GHG

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]]> By: fin http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84729 fin Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:01:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84729 Should war, as part of good population control..? Should war, as part of good population control..?

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84728 greenfly Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:53:38 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84728 StephenR I defer to your quicker trigger-finger and nimbler noggin. StephenR

I defer to your quicker trigger-finger and nimbler noggin.

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84726 StephenR Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:58:07 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84726 <i>Why do you insist on framing everything as a ‘church’?</i> I was FIRST! July 14 3-30. hmph Why do you insist on framing everything as a ‘church’?

I was FIRST! July 14 3-30. hmph

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84714 greenfly Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:30 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84714 Lawrence Hakiwai would perhaps be just the man to ban idiotic statements. Lawrence Hakiwai would perhaps be just the man to ban idiotic statements.

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84713 greenfly Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:06:39 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84713 "Church" Shunda? Why do you insist on framing everything as a 'church'? btw - war can be stopped. It often is. “Church” Shunda?

Why do you insist on framing everything as a ‘church’?

btw – war can be stopped. It often is.

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]]> By: Lawerence Hakiwai http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84712 Lawerence Hakiwai Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:25:11 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84712 Maybe after Kennedy Graham has banned war, Sue Bradford could ban the murder of children. I expect he'll have just as much luck. Maybe after Kennedy Graham has banned war, Sue Bradford could ban the murder of children.

I expect he’ll have just as much luck.

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84690 StephenR Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:56:08 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84690 <i>You fella’s are the one’s suggesting that war can actually be stopped, and the only way to stop it is to rid the planet of people, I guess this is a doctrine of your “church”</i> Not really my church fella. And now you seem to be saying the 'big-G' Greens want to rid the planet of people, eh? You fella’s are the one’s suggesting that war can actually be stopped, and the only way to stop it is to rid the planet of people, I guess this is a doctrine of your “church”

Not really my church fella. And now you seem to be saying the ‘big-G’ Greens want to rid the planet of people, eh?

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]]> By: Mark http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84680 Mark Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:33:53 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84680 Much easier - rid the world of seven deadly sins -there will be no war. Much easier – rid the world of seven deadly sins -there will be no war.

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]]> By: Valis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84676 Valis Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:39:48 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84676 Shunda, much worse than churlish. We have neither suggested war can be stopped, nor called for ridding the planet of people. You didn't even listen to Kennedy's podcast before shooting off at the mouth did you. When you speak out against the terrible UN, we're supposed to respect your understanding of "world history and life experience”, but you don't even bother to get basic facts correct. Shunda, much worse than churlish. We have neither suggested war can be stopped, nor called for ridding the planet of people. You didn’t even listen to Kennedy’s podcast before shooting off at the mouth did you. When you speak out against the terrible UN, we’re supposed to respect your understanding of “world history and life experience”, but you don’t even bother to get basic facts correct.

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]]> By: Shunda barunda http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84673 Shunda barunda Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:04:59 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84673 "I accept that they exist, but ‘green’ is an extremely broad church, which is why using them for point scoring on the NZ Greens’ blog (if one were to try such a thing) would be a churlish thing to do." You fella's are the one's suggesting that war can actually be stopped, and the only way to stop it is to rid the planet of people, I guess this is a doctrine of your "church" “I accept that they exist, but ‘green’ is an extremely broad church, which is why using them for point scoring on the NZ Greens’ blog (if one were to try such a thing) would be a churlish thing to do.”

You fella’s are the one’s suggesting that war can actually be stopped, and the only way to stop it is to rid the planet of people, I guess this is a doctrine of your “church”

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]]> By: Prim http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84667 Prim Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:04:50 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84667 Good luck with trying to rid the world of war ... and domestic violence .... and workplace bullying ... and school bullying ... so much conflict on the world! Some fundamental changes seem to be required. Good luck with trying to rid the world of war … and domestic violence …. and workplace bullying … and school bullying … so much conflict on the world! Some fundamental changes seem to be required.

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]]> By: Sapient http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84655 Sapient Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:16:56 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84655 Dunno about you but I reckon someone my age has the potential to inseminate 600 to 1000 per year. Not a task I would envy too much though. Would get like writting lines :P . Then again every time one has unprotected sex with a fertile partner whilst one is fertile themselves it is a potential insemination, particuarly as the pairs get older, lol. Dunno about you but I reckon someone my age has the potential to inseminate 600 to 1000 per year. Not a task I would envy too much though. Would get like writting lines :P .
Then again every time one has unprotected sex with a fertile partner whilst one is fertile themselves it is a potential insemination, particuarly as the pairs get older, lol.

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/14/one-way-to-free-the-world-from-war/#comment-84654 greenfly Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:04:53 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/?p=5224#comment-84654 further to that, how <i> do </i> you "potentially inseminate"? Am I potentially inseminating now? Will I know when it happens? Will I want to do it again? further to that, how do you “potentially inseminate”?

Am I potentially inseminating now? Will I know when it happens?

Will I want to do it again?

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