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Published in THE GAME by frog on Wed, July 8th, 2009
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General Debate, July 8, 2009
Published: July 8, 2009
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on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
Twelve years to settle this court case. How could our justice system have allowed it to drag on for that long?
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apologies for double-posting..
..i stuck this in the other thread..
http://whoar.co.nz/2009/the-dark-side-of-climate-change-its-already-too-late-cap-and-trade-is-a-scam-and-only-the-few-will-survive/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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I would just like to say that I hate internet explorer 8 with a passion cause of all the flippin problems it is and has caused me over the past 48 hrs since installing it.
My advice to everybody is KEEP EXPLORER 7!!! do not upgrade to 8.
It takes about 5 mins to load, my computer is slow, tabs don’t work properly and it won’t let me go on Kiwi blog!!!!!.
Arrrrrrrrrrggghhhhhhhhhh
I hate Microsoft!!!!.
Its the corporations man, they’re evil man.
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A cap and trade scheme would be a terrible approach, that is unless the cap is zero. lol.
All emissions of carbon should be sequestered by the sequestration of an equivlent amount. 40% by 2020? so make everything account for 40% of their emmissions by 2020 by increasing the percentage of their emmisions they must account for by 4% per annum, 1% per quarter. The gradual introduction will minimise economic harm and will allow the new carbon industry to develop.
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Shunda,
. I much prefer Opera; so much more functionality and so much *cleaner*. Firefox isint too bad eaither, the add-ons can be useful.
Lol, your using explorer, theres your problem
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shunda – it’s not Explorer keeping you from Kiwiblog. We all pitched in to have you barred – it’s for your own good!
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The only site I seem to be able to use is this one, so now you are making me paranoid greenfly.
Perhaps my computer is full of aphids
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It’s better that you don’t struggle – the knots only get tighter.
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Its a conspiracy by the church/’god’/america; they found your critical beleif a threat.
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Repent!
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Micasoft wants you to buy one of their expensive prophylactics shunda, your fertile mind might impregnate others….
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Shunda – just checked out Kiwiblog on your behalf – relax, it’s the usual over-cooked stodge. Redbaiter is calling Laile Harre a troglodyte.
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Purely from a social anthropology point of view…
What is it about Frogblog that attracts the trolls so? Casual checks on the labour and nat blogs suggest they are relatively uninfested. And those greenies posting there seem every so restrained and polite.)
If the greenies were a major political power threatening the red vs blue status quo.. I’d understand it better, but alas we’re not.
Two hypotheses…
* The major party blogs are heavily moderated?
* It’s a variation of the Kissinger Principle applied to parties not countries. “Major Parties have no principles, only interests”, and hence are fundamentally “un trollable”.
Any guesses as to what is going on?
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At least Redbaiter doesn’t come over here. He does make the occasional vile appearance at The Standard though.
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Vile. Perfectly put. Vulnerable though. Predictable.
Toad, you’ve been buffetted a bit lately, over ‘there’. I see the stabbing beaks of storks and a soft-bodied toad .. ‘poik! poik! .. toad-skin does have remarkable powers of restoration though!
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John Carter – we have trolls? Who? (What’s your definition? I’m really interested.)
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JC; A perception of Vulnerability coupled with jealousy.
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“..And those greenies posting there seem every so restrained and polite.)..”
he’s obviously talking about me..
..eh..?
and..
“..Any guesses as to what is going on?..”
(um..!..no..!..care to tell/enlighten us..?)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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“Toad, you’ve been buffetted a bit lately, over ‘there’.”
Hey, toad gives as much as he gets.
He dosn’t like yanks either, especially the prayin type.
And he owes me a beer.
Man this computer is making me angry, Microsoft SUCKS!!
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Greenfly asked, “What’s your definition?”
The wikipedia’s definition seems good to me…
“In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.”
Well, perhaps they are not trolls, there’s a thought. But they are certainly, ah, umm, curious characters.
It’s the conflict between their repeatedly stated distaste and disbelief in all things greenie… and the energy and time they expend on a “all green content all the time” site.
Sort of like an ultra-rightwing christian conservatives having an unwholesome fascination for porn sites.
I can understand being ultra-rightwing christian conservative, I can understand people being fascinated by porn sites.
I can understand people being rightwing and “blue” poltically, I can understand people who are Greenie / leftwing.
It’s when you combine two opposing fascinations in one person that it seems strange and unwholesome to me.
On the other hand, maybe they’re just trolls.
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John Thanks. The wikipedia definition seems a little too broad to me. I’d say ‘contraversial’ comments don’t qualify as troll-droppings, with the proviso that they aren’t mixed with the other characteristics (off-topic, inflammatory or irrelevant). The mark of a troll to my thinking, is someone who chooses and uses words and phrases that are demeaning and belittling to the beliefs that can be expected to be commonly held amongst the community for whom the blog was created, for the purpose of eliciting a reaction that their opinion wouldn’t otherwise get.
If a commentor here regularly uses phrases such as ‘stupid greenies’ and similar phrases, you’d be pretty right in calling ‘troll’.
Our trolls seem to be of the kind that like to hear their name mentioned alot. Interestingly, two of our ‘resident’ trolls have dried, shrunken and blown away of late. Not missed, not mourned for.
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Trolls, of course, are not of the ‘who’s that trip-trapping over my bridge’ variety at all. They are ‘trolling’, as a fisherman would troll for trout, or Bill Clinton swam (they say) naked in the Oval Office pool, trolling for interns. Shouldn’t they really be called ‘trollers’?
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Trolls predate Clinton Fly; they come out from under bridges – in the old Country – ate children, and/or the innocent – 165? (@there).
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Resident
http://tinyurl.com/nz2hkh
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Mark said: Trolls predate Clinton
They predate goats too (or at least attempt to!
I’ve always dislike the 3 BGs Gruff – they refused to play their part in the natural order of things, trespassed, disturbed the peace, yearned for greener grass simply because it was not the grass they were on and dobbed each other in without compunction (Don’t eat me! My brother is much plumper than I !)
Piero! Ko koe!
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If you act like a troll sometimes, does that make you a troll or just a little bit trollish?
I think I am a Mutant.
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Relax Shunda – you’re a trill.
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well you won’t find it on Giggle, but there was a 3rd century troll – they died out when all their women ran away (trollops) hiss boo
Living in subterraenean lava vaults near Preston – witches and such,
guard yore batswings!!!
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Shunda !
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Give yourself a dual-boot system, then use linux for your on-line presence. It is relatively painless in the age of big disks.
Download the ISO and push it on a CD or DVD.
Boot from the disk.
You can work with it a bit and decide if you like the interface and stuff, then let it squeeze some space off your drive and set it to dual-boot. This is a “good” release.
I strongly recommend it. Particularly when you start thinking about Redmond in terms of cruise missiles. A thought never far from my mind.
My real reason for coming to NZ was to avoid the temptation to pay a visit to Redmond and be a very naughty penguin.
respectfully
BJ
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Ubuntu is my main, the kernal does have an odd tendancy to conflict with certain wireless-lan cards though. Particuarly atheros. The latest updates were supposed to fix this but ive had no luck, im even considering changing my laptop to XP (once I downgrade my vista licence, eh?).
Ubuntu is highly recommended, esspecially for those with little experience with linux
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Hey everyone, in the tradition of “build your own billboard”, you can now build your own referendumb.
Here’s my first effort.
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all of which is nothing a 42kb dos menu system won’t handle
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Just installed Mozilla Firefox and all I can say is Microsoft can kiss my hairy troll butt-ox.
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Welcome to the club. Thunderbird must be next
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“Sort of like an ultra-rightwing christian conservatives having an unwholesome fascination for porn sites.”
So Christian boys are not supposed to find girls attractive?
Shesh, everyone I know my age or younger has had their secret stash at some stage or another, wives don’t tend to like it to much though.
I went to a Christian leadership camp once where this dude was trying to talk about sexuality. He started talking about “marital aids”. I was almost convinced there was some deadly new virus spreading among married couples, when I suddenly realised he was talking about sex toys!!!
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What about the “Sin of Onan” Shunda?
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“Welcome to the club. Thunderbird must be next”
What font do you use Valis? and what is thunderbird?
I am astonished at how much faster and smoother it runs than Internet explorer, and its not throttling the crap out of the processor either.
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“What about the “Sin of Onan” Shunda?”
And what in gaia’s name is that?
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Shunda,
Thunderbird is an email client:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
While you are trying out browsers, I find opera far superior to firefox, though it lacks such a well developed add-on feature.
http://www.opera.com/
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“While you are trying out browsers, I find opera far superior to firefox,”
I assume you could install opera as well as firefox and use which ever, whenever?
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Yes you can have several browsers at once. I haven’t tried opera, but have heard good things. As for fonts, I rarely fiddle with them, but do like Arial style fonts.
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I feel for Shunda I also went through the same hassle with explorer 8 the only extra button I wanted was a spell check because my spelling is not so hot. Instead you get a bloody dictionary which is OK if you are not in a hurry(it takes ages) I even beat it by physically looking up a word in the dictionary!!
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in a way, it’s nice to see microsoft screw itself out of it’s own market – proof positive of beaurucracy is a felled tree.
Anyway England loss the toss….they’re batting wot haha!
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the sin of onan is best uncovered alone naughty Toad
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“the sin of onan is best uncovered alone naughty Toad”
Yeah, I just found out what it means too.
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Just to clear it up for greenfly, the Christian leaders were not recommending the contraction of “marital aids”
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For the basketballers, it’s ‘one on one’.
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Did they play “Steely Dan” as background music?
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“Did they play “Steely Dan” as background music?”
Isn’t that a jazz band that doesn’t like hippies?
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Hey toad is there a forum page on this site..?
Over the weekend I was reading some of the ONTRACK plans regarding the electrification project, then I started doing some calculations about the cost of electrifying the remainder of the NIMT and so on and so on till I finally had written an infrastructure plan for the whole country using 3% of GDP and 8% of government spending a year for the next 15 years which would move our economy to sustainablility and would love to get some feedback on it…
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Jezza, I’d be fascinated – maybe join the Campaign for Better Transport forum and post there: http://www.bettertransport.org.nz/forum/index.php
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Cool thanks for that, link here:
http://www.bettertransport.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1133
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Shunda,
yup, having multiple browsers is no problem. I normally operate with three; Opera for main browsing (I quite like the speed dial and i find it much more clean than fire fox), Firefox for watching videos, youtube, etc, and the third depends on the system. Ive found that most browsers have their own advantages and disadvantages, my favorate part about opera and firefox is that if you open pages in tabs instead of in new windows (you can change which shift does in preferences/options or simply right click) and then you are able close them down and turn of the computer and when you return the pages will all load up apon starting the browser. Very useful. Though if you have multiple windows open then only the tabs in the last open window will be retained.
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Nestled in today’s paper, this:
RMA SEEN AS HURDLE BY QUARRYING INDUSTRY
Some priceless quotes:
Quarrying is a misunderstood industry hampered by a ‘confrontational’ Resource Management Act’ …
the industry was misjudged by a public that did not understand…
“The public have to realise if they want motorways to drive on…
The industry was a conservative one but was now focussing on raising public awareness so people could understand how quarries worked.
Wonder what’s going on …wait a minute…
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And in the same newspaper, news that the first leg of John Key’s Cycleway is to to run from Kingston to Queenstown and will be launched in a matter of weeks.
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Not often that I praise a National Party Cabinet Minister, but well done Kate Wilkinson.
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As immigration spokesman is Keith going to bring up the Liu stories?
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/liu_arrested.html#comments
A Chinese man granted citizenship against the advice of officials and wanted in his homeland for “large-scale misappropriation and embezzlement” was given a VIP citizenship ceremony at Parliament.
Yang Liu, also known as Bill Liu, was granted his citizenship in August by ministerial prerogative.
He became a New Zealander at a private citizenship ceremony in the Maori Affairs select committee room, officiated over by Labour MP and former Cabinet minister Dover Samuels.
And who is Yang Liu?. The latest TGIF from Ian Wishart reveals:
His real name, confirmed for the first time in this country by TGIF Edition, is indeed Yongming Yan
Even worse, an informant resource report to the Immigration Service last year, but apparently ignored by Associate Immigration Minister Shane Jones, provides detailed information on Yan’s involvement at the head of an Asian organised crime syndicate, which “paid large cash sums to various ministers and delegates indirectly through secret anonymous accounts
Now whether this is correct or not is one issue. But what is not in dispute (it seems) is that Shane Jones knew of these allegations, as the were part of the file officials had who fought against citizenship. So why did Jones ignore this?
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/tag/yongming_yan
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That’s a huge assumption as to what the public wants…. or are they not talking about MORE motorways?
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Catherine talks marxism and the Greens
http://unityaotearoa.blogspot.com/
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You mean Catherine talks Greens to the Marxists.
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“as you know we’re not a pure Marxist party” (laughter/context).
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