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	<title>Comments on: Feds&#8217; selective with the science on water quality</title>
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		<title>By: peterquixote</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83255</link>
		<dc:creator>peterquixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you think about the  new Environmental Agency fwwog,
specifically Maori Green agents,</description>
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<p>what do you think about the  new Environmental Agency fwwog,<br />
specifically Maori Green agents,</p>
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		<title>By: meepmeep</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83225</link>
		<dc:creator>meepmeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese have set up an automated water quality monitoring, which posts results online every 4 hours... 

http://www.chinaenvironmentallaw.com/2009/07/02/china-water-quality-data-online/

I wonder if NZ should be investigating a similar approach.</description>
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<p>The Chinese have set up an automated water quality monitoring, which posts results online every 4 hours&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.chinaenvironmentallaw.com/2009/07/02/china-water-quality-data-online/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinaenvironmentallaw.com/2009/07/02/china-water-quality-data-online/</a></p>
<p>I wonder if NZ should be investigating a similar approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Bushbasher</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83184</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushbasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you Greens! You are such nice people!

Seeing you dealing with farmers is like watching a toddler stray from the sidelines into a senior rugby game. 

Farmers have only two policies: 1. We do as we please, and 2. Someone else pays the bill. 

With normal pollution, the polluter is told &#039;clean up or shut down&#039;. But with farmers, after years of &#039;consultation&#039;, the victims pay the polluters to clean up. Maybe. If they feel like it. 

Good luck, guys!</description>
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<p>Ah, you Greens! You are such nice people!</p>
<p>Seeing you dealing with farmers is like watching a toddler stray from the sidelines into a senior rugby game. </p>
<p>Farmers have only two policies: 1. We do as we please, and 2. Someone else pays the bill. </p>
<p>With normal pollution, the polluter is told &#8216;clean up or shut down&#8217;. But with farmers, after years of &#8216;consultation&#8217;, the victims pay the polluters to clean up. Maybe. If they feel like it. </p>
<p>Good luck, guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Prim</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83157</link>
		<dc:creator>Prim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can something be done to force such people to be honest?  I am tired of people getting away with misleading spin.  If the Fair Trading Act doesn&#039;t cover things like this, can it please be extended to do so?</description>
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<p>Can something be done to force such people to be honest?  I am tired of people getting away with misleading spin.  If the Fair Trading Act doesn&#8217;t cover things like this, can it please be extended to do so?</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83087</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Inquiry clears pig farm&quot; the inconspicuous headline tucked away in a remote corner of todays paper timidly announced. All clear. The farm visited by Mike King did not breach the code. Nothing to see here. Move on.
A victory for the swine.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Inquiry clears pig farm&#8221; the inconspicuous headline tucked away in a remote corner of todays paper timidly announced. All clear. The farm visited by Mike King did not breach the code. Nothing to see here. Move on.<br />
A victory for the swine.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83068</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bioneer - guess I misheard what he missaid!</description>
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<p>Bioneer &#8211; guess I misheard what he missaid!</p>
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		<title>By: the bioneer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83063</link>
		<dc:creator>the bioneer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greenfly - I think you have interpreted frogs post wrong; they are not being selective with the science -they have selected not to use science full-stop.</description>
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<p>greenfly &#8211; I think you have interpreted frogs post wrong; they are not being selective with the science -they have selected not to use science full-stop.</p>
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		<title>By: kiore1</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-83037</link>
		<dc:creator>kiore1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Misleading statements&quot; are par for the course for farmers&#039; groups and ministers of agriculture.  Witness our current Minister of Agriculture&#039;s insistence he did not know about sow stalls in spite of a letter being tabled proving that he was briefed about them in 2005.  Also witness the pork board&#039;s continued insistence that pigs are better off in crates.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Misleading statements&#8221; are par for the course for farmers&#8217; groups and ministers of agriculture.  Witness our current Minister of Agriculture&#8217;s insistence he did not know about sow stalls in spite of a letter being tabled proving that he was briefed about them in 2005.  Also witness the pork board&#8217;s continued insistence that pigs are better off in crates.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/07/02/feds-selective-with-the-science-on-water-quality/#comment-82998</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Misleading statements&quot; Frog? How diplomatic you are. Mr Mckenzie is lying.</description>
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<p>&#8221; Misleading statements&#8221; Frog? How diplomatic you are. Mr Mckenzie is lying.</p>
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