29 thoughts on “The Greens look in Mt Albert

  1. …The first one doesint appear to me as being terribly positive…
    ….And the last girl looks vegan….

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  2. Is the waterfall in the bottom one the Oakley Creek waterfall that National wants to bulldoze?

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  3. Don’t get into a tuscle with Ruscle, he’s got more muscle and will kick you in the buscle.

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  4. The first one promotes violence and abuse toward wimin, shame on you Greenies.

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  5. It perpetuates negative male steriotypes, and by extension; negative female steriotypes.

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  6. # Sapient Says:
    May 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    > It perpetuates negative male steriotypes, and by extension; negative female steriotypes.

    by saying that, you are perpetuating negative stereotypes about muscles. People of both sexes use their muscles in many ways, for many tasks, every day.

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  7. Go Russel!

    Superb campaign. Don’t listen to the naysayers. Grab the left vote you so fully deserve. So you don’t get a crissy card from Labour this year, big deal!

    Big picture thinking. Yeah baby!

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  8. Yep, it’s that waterfall. Actually pretty amazing in the middle of Auckland city. Nats motorway won’t necessarily destroy the waterfall itself (tho no guarantees) but it will certainly ruin it by putting a dirty great 6 lane motorway just nearby overhead. SO all the greenspace will no longer be quiet and with reasonably clean air but will be noisy and have traffic fumes all over it.

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  9. … and it will still have a $2.2 billion price tag.

    I know a few years ago the ‘value’ of the open space that a surface level Waterview Connection would destroy was measured. I can’t remember whether it was a formal analysis or just someone random saying “billions!” It would be interesting to track that down though, to work out the value of the open space a surface level Waterview Connection would destroy. Might well offset the $600 million saved when compared to a full tunnel option?

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  10. by saying that, you are perpetuating negative stereotypes about muscles. People of both sexes use their muscles in many ways, for many tasks, every day.

    Ah, but my statement perpetuates steriotypes relating to a modifyable attribute, or more correctly appeals to it, where-as the statement on which i was remarking perpetuates steriotypes centering around a born state. It is perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on a choice, be it obesity, smoking, drinking, or veganism. It is somewhat less acceptable to discriminate based on sex or colour.
    By saying ‘more muscle’ the implication is that he has more than other candidates and that that muscle somehow advantages him in matters of parliment or means he is more likely to represent the views of the consituency; neither of which follow logically unless brawls replace votes and self-rightous speeches.
    Would it not be bettter to promote his neural network (note: not a muscle) rather than such a physical trait; does not promotion of such a physical trait, with no relivance to ability to represent in parliment, only dive closer to the personallity politics of america? isint it better to promote his PhD, even if it is in a rather redundant area with a rather unimpressive topic, and his ability to debate and think critically?
    The only relivance muscle could have would be to fitness, which doesint necacarily follow, making it less likely for him to kick over, but past history with male co-leaders has shown even this does not always follow.

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  11. Is it worth passing on this nugget that appeared on ‘another’ blog today?

    w w w.act . org.nz = wacked organs! Coincidence? I DON’T THINK SO!

    village idiot

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  12. Wow – I love it! and giving things a bit of muscle is so not gendered either way – don’t you remember those gorgeous feminist images from way back which showed women making a muscle? surely being strong is a good thing for both men and women. Specially when we’re talking about putting our strength into looking after people and the planet.

    tony

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  13. sapient says

    “….And the last girl looks vegan….”

    So in other words she looks fit, healthy, intelligent and compassionate. Like me.

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  14. Sapient Says:
    May 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    > By saying ‘more muscle’ the implication is that he has more than other candidates and that that muscle somehow advantages him in matters of parliment or means he is more likely to represent the views of the consituency; neither of which follow logically unless brawls replace votes and self-rightous speeches.

    Okay. You were interpreting muscle literally, I was interpreting it as a metaphor.

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  15. kiore1 – she does look a little wan , which I take to mean that Russel will win !

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  16. Kiore,
    I was getting more at the whole consumption of a diet which poorly suits anthropoid apes, esspecially through developmental years. Particuarly her not so healthy hair and her skin showing a tone approaching grey.
    NMostly I was just looking for something to be critical about, mostly lightheartedly.

    kahikatea,
    I know, but eaither way it is eaither irrelivant or false.

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  17. Oh Frog! Could you lay down a ‘General Comments’ thread for tomorrow? Lot’s of gauntlets to be thrown down, cud chewed and issues thrashed out.

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  18. I think the girl is feeling ill cos she ate an eel from Oakley Creek. i spent a little time planting harakeke on the banks and I know whats in there!!

    hmmm, as for the billboards, I don’t really get them. Why muscle?

    And the ‘vote for us’ seems a little weird when asking for a personal vote for RN.

    What do I know anyway? Good luck

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  19. I agree that consumption of animal flesh does not suit anthropoid apes
    (not to mention the planet). Whenever we fairly look for it, the medical evidence appears to back this up. Certainly the ecological evidence does.

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  20. # kiore1 Says:
    May 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    > I agree that consumption of animal flesh does not suit anthropoid apes
    (not to mention the planet). Whenever we fairly look for it, the medical evidence appears to back this up. Certainly the ecological evidence does.

    The medical evidence seems to me to back up the idea that eating meat isn’t particularly good for people, but that eating fish is. But from an ecological viewpoint, eating fish isn’t very good either.

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  21. I wonder why any primate that supposedly evolved in a savannah, miles away from the ocean, is engineered to run well on fish. It makes me think that perhaps the best thing that can be said for fish flesh is that it is better than land animal flesh, but there are better options yet, such as getting omega fatty acids from walnuts and flax.

    It would be great if Russel won in Mt Albert. It would be a much easier seat to hold on to than Coromandel.

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  22. Kiore,
    Evolution does not work by the hand of god, forms will not inevitably be the best suited possible form but the best suited form that arises and survives to proliferate.
    When humans were living a whole 20 to 30 years or so i doubt that a heart attack here or there would have had much influence compared to the benefits to be had through a dense energy source such as meat.
    Its similar to why we have so many diseases of old age; its not because diseases of old age evolved more than those of youth but because those whom had disease before they sire children and, to a lesser extent, raise them have their ability to proliferate deminished, where as old diseases of old age do not hamper reproduction.

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  23. kiore1 Says:
    May 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    > I wonder why any primate that supposedly evolved in a savannah, miles away from the ocean, is engineered to run well on fish.

    Indeed. I also wonder why a primate that supposedly evolved to hunt on the savannah evolved to walk on two feet, when every other savannah mammal except the kangaroo evolved to run on 4 feet, which is faster than what we can do. I also wonder why a primate that supposedly evolved to live on the savannah lost its hair, and then evolved a layer of subcutaneous fat to keep warm, both of which are true of aquatic mammals but generally not of land mammals. All of which leads me to suspect that we actually evolved to hang around on beaches and in the sea. And humans do seem to be attracted to beaches.

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  24. Kahikatea,
    There is much more to support that theory than you point out; it is often refered to as the ‘Aquatic ape hypothesis’ and is rather looked down apon.
    Humans evolved to walk on two feet because they had previously evolved to climb trees and only locomote to a very limited extent on the ground. Evolving four legged locomotion would negate the effect of hands and would lead to a dead-end because it would not be as compeditive as the other primates or as the hooved mammels. To maintain the use of hands the only viable way to increase speed is to adapt to bipedial motion, a motion that allows one to quickly scavange and then run, in addition to the climbing ability granted by hands. While bipedial motion is full of flaws it is still the best adaption with th tools availible. And look what it gave us; a source of meat sufficent to allow a significant change in brain size and allow us to create spears, and latter bows. “Doesint matter how fast you run, ill just shoot you”. Truley the best adaption in the long run given the environmental constraints of the time. again, not because of god but becaus ethey outcompete their compeditors.

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  25. and by eating hemp seeds. Shame we can’t sell them for human consumption in NZ (thanks FSAANZ).

    (kiore1 said: there are better options yet, such as getting omega fatty acids from walnuts and flax.)

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