Why not give Fed Farmers the water that Meridian’s resource consents are forcing it to spill from Roxburgh and Tekapo?

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jh: you mean that there’s always the possibility of another blind fault under the gravels of the Canterbury Plain.

We already know of several.

Trevor.

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Dave S said:

“Go get a degree”

Why? I would just put it with the others. (And you would be surprised what paper I did on the side.)

However I may have misunderstood your objection to “We can’t keep intensifying”. I did’t realise that you were objecting to the lack of an object. Russel was speaking about intensification of stocking levels on dairy farms/irrigation/agriculture, i.e. the same activities that had already been established as the objects of intensification by the article that he quoted.

This is a blog. It is a written form of communication which is much like spoken communication. It is not a formal acedemic essay or novel. The rules of English are more relaxed.

Trevor.

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Actually the rivers that drain the foothills run out of water and you know what that means………. no fishing!

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There’s always the possibility of a blind fault under the gravels of the Canterbury Plain.

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Will we need the Central Plains water scheme with dairy prices falling?
http://www.interest.co.nz/ratesblog/index.php/2008/12/16/video-dairy-bubble-has-burst/

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NZ is one of the youngest land masses above sea level.
That is why it is rough rather than smooth.

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Canterbury is not running out of water. The water is running out of Canterbury!

We seem to have become paralysed over certain engineering works.
At present the Canterbury Regional Council seems to prefer using energy to pump water out of aquifers (which lowers the water table) rather than build a few dams and use aqueducts and pipes to let gravity deliver.

They seem to think dams are unnatural. Have they ever considered how many alpine lakes are formed behind natural landslides which formed natural dams?

And does anyone suggest we dismantle Karapiro dam because of its adverse effect on the environment?
We have to set a few priorities. The sure way to become a Banana republic is to let the BANANAs rule. (BANANAs – BUILD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYWHERE NEAR ANYTHING!

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You have my support bjchip – but suspect on this website my support does you more harm than good Engineers and economist have a lot of common ground to fruitfully work together on.

Keep up the work – sometimes good ideas get implemented.

Sometimes – i’m still an optimist, just a little jaded from so many bad business cases.

Regards
WWHS

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“# Kevyn Says:
December 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am

There ain’t nothing worse than a grammar freak.”

Particularly ironic when he then says:
“If (as here) it dousn’t seem like it makes any sense, think again about what you are trying to say and say it!”

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There ain’t nothing worse than a grammar freak.

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From Water Storage to Terrorism – that quickly.
So NZ is not one of the oldest land masses above sea level?
I (perhaps mistakenly) thought that Scientists agreed NZ was indeed one of the earth’s oldest Land Masses – based largely on the only (non swimming) descendant of the Dinosaur living here.
The Tuatara was that unique native, had survived for a millenia and never been submerged lives on.
One of the reasons for the theory anyway – i will await enlightenment from educated worthies…

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I did mention that it would be more expensive to run the water over the mountains than to conserve/save/re-use the water that is already on the Eastern side. I KNOW I said that. I meant it too…

At the same time, I would have to point out that “impressive feats of engineering” are part of what make us a civilization rather than a bunch of apes.

respectfully
BJ

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I think the main point here, Frog, was that the police’s SIG were given a lot of money to go after terrorists and either failed to find any, or ddn’t even try, and went after activists instead.

I blame state-run education. Our history curriculum is so lacking that confused police officers don’t even know that it was Greenpeace that was the target of NZ’s last incidence of terrorism, not the perpetrators of it.

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Kieth Locke attacked the police over the raids on the Urewera camps etc. He was in a good position to know or at least find out what is what but he was partial to covering it up. The police affidavit was available to anyone with computer skills and curiosity and when you put the conversions in their context the comments by the solicitor general (“very disturbing activities”(?)) make sense.

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What parts are untrue Frog?

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Boring article from Trevor, as usual. Half truths and innuendo. the same crap the police use to justify spying on whole groups rather than individuals, as their mandate suggests.

If there was even the remotest effort by the police to target suspect individuals, and then let it go when they found nothing, I would have some patience. However, wholesale targeting of groups is, in fact, a Stasi tactic.

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Yeah I know its off topic but I found this most interesting.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/12/letter-to-keith-locke.html

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If by “a while back” you mean yesterday, then yes, I’m that person! I’m not sure what either the horizon you are referring to is or what policies are unchallenged; however, I do resent being inferred to as “scum”, particularly as I have never referred to your lineage.
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What I’m saying is that while we don’t have an official population policy it is (it seems) part of the lexicon of the business lobby that the population is to keep on expanding but we aren’t supposed to think about it too much just shrug it off as normal and not count the costs.
Scum is what floats to the top (“a filmy layer of extraneous or impure matter that forms on or rises to the surface of a liquid or body of water”). The analogy was meant to be with those who live on top floors, headlands farmlets with nice vistas compared to those who look at walls (those who share the benefits and not the costs).

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Whoops, russel should be Russel – mea didgitum culpa!

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