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	<title>Comments on: Dolphin CSI &#8211; National crisis</title>
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	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67114</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jh - yours is a very good point. Best to have disinterested parties making the decisions on issues they have no interest in - difficult but possible. However, you&#039;d need to be sure those decision makers had all of the relevant facts and a track record of good decision making. Any suggestions for who might decide over the &#039;close to shore set-netting issue&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jh &#8211; yours is a very good point. Best to have disinterested parties making the decisions on issues they have no interest in &#8211; difficult but possible. However, you&#8217;d need to be sure those decision makers had all of the relevant facts and a track record of good decision making. Any suggestions for who might decide over the &#8216;close to shore set-netting issue&#8217;?
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67110</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m saying interest clouds reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m saying interest clouds reason.
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67109</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jh - are you equating vandals with fishermen and laying the blame at their feet? Or are you blaming the Government for declaring moratoriums to protect endangered &#039;beings&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jh &#8211; are you equating vandals with fishermen and laying the blame at their feet? Or are you blaming the Government for declaring moratoriums to protect endangered &#8216;beings&#8217;?
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67103</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fishermen shoot seals and dolphin. In the same vane there used to be a giant Matai tree near L. Ianthe but when the govt declared a moratorium on native logging it was vandalised and had to be felled (for safety).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fishermen shoot seals and dolphin. In the same vane there used to be a giant Matai tree near L. Ianthe but when the govt declared a moratorium on native logging it was vandalised and had to be felled (for safety).
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		<title>By: kiore1</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67084</link>
		<dc:creator>kiore1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that would be right.  Unfortunately when industry lobby groups talk about economics they are only interested in the short term, mostly the &quot;economy&quot; of the directors.  Ultimately environmentalists care the most about the economy because when the planet is totally trashed there will be very little economic activity at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that would be right.  Unfortunately when industry lobby groups talk about economics they are only interested in the short term, mostly the &#8220;economy&#8221; of the directors.  Ultimately environmentalists care the most about the economy because when the planet is totally trashed there will be very little economic activity at all.
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		<title>By: Trevor29</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/12/04/dolphin-csi-national-crisis/#comment-67072</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that it is very short term economic interest that is impacted. Setting up a no-fishing area often leads to improved fishing outside the area as the fish stocks in the no-fishing zone recover and the fish move outside the no-fishing zone. So there is often gain rather than loss to the fishing industry even over relatively short timescales.

Trevor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that it is very short term economic interest that is impacted. Setting up a no-fishing area often leads to improved fishing outside the area as the fish stocks in the no-fishing zone recover and the fish move outside the no-fishing zone. So there is often gain rather than loss to the fishing industry even over relatively short timescales.</p>
<p>Trevor.
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