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		<title>By: idiot/savant</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66698</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Seeing as this is a green blog, the real question is what impact this will have on the environment&lt;/i&gt;

Two obvious options: one, Earth will return to nature as we all decide to live in computers rather than in the meat.  Or two, there won&#039;t be one, because those trees and plants and giant carnivorous snails are matter which could be turned into computronium to run AIs and other people on (and besides, we can duplicate it all infinitely in virtuality anyway).  Assuming we don&#039;t all eat ourselves with grey goo, that is.

Charles Stross&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Accelerando&lt;/i&gt; has a nice look at what a Singularity might look like, and its not pretty.  I&#039;m inclined to agree with him (and the rest of the Scots Trots SF clique) that weakly godlike entities who live in computers are about as likely to care for people and things which don&#039;t as the Great Old Ones are.</description>
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<p><i>Seeing as this is a green blog, the real question is what impact this will have on the environment</i></p>
<p>Two obvious options: one, Earth will return to nature as we all decide to live in computers rather than in the meat.  Or two, there won&#8217;t be one, because those trees and plants and giant carnivorous snails are matter which could be turned into computronium to run AIs and other people on (and besides, we can duplicate it all infinitely in virtuality anyway).  Assuming we don&#8217;t all eat ourselves with grey goo, that is.</p>
<p>Charles Stross&#8217;s <i>Accelerando</i> has a nice look at what a Singularity might look like, and its not pretty.  I&#8217;m inclined to agree with him (and the rest of the Scots Trots SF clique) that weakly godlike entities who live in computers are about as likely to care for people and things which don&#8217;t as the Great Old Ones are.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66672</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MichaelT

Good on ya.
The Robot Series converged with the Foundation Series after being separate for over 30 years, and brought out many interesting aspects of Asimov&#039;s vision.  Perhaps most striking was the development of the mind to use the vast resources it contains that are virtually not used at all today - perhaps the making ourselves into that better species that you talk of.  

Anyway.  Happy Sunday to you, I hope your weather is as delightful as mine right now, viva wireless networking and sun-loungers :-)</description>
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<p>MichaelT</p>
<p>Good on ya.<br />
The Robot Series converged with the Foundation Series after being separate for over 30 years, and brought out many interesting aspects of Asimov&#8217;s vision.  Perhaps most striking was the development of the mind to use the vast resources it contains that are virtually not used at all today &#8211; perhaps the making ourselves into that better species that you talk of.  </p>
<p>Anyway.  Happy Sunday to you, I hope your weather is as delightful as mine right now, viva wireless networking and sun-loungers <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michaelt</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66658</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave S, no, I don&#039;t remember reading that. I was just always averse to the idea that we should aim to create a species better than ourselves. I preferred the idea that we&#039;d make ourselves into that better species.</description>
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<p>Dave S, no, I don&#8217;t remember reading that. I was just always averse to the idea that we should aim to create a species better than ourselves. I preferred the idea that we&#8217;d make ourselves into that better species.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66651</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry cyBorgs - slip of the middle digit - wouldn&#039;t happen if winwows 32767 worked consistently.  Damned Microcorp!</description>
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<p>Sorry cyBorgs &#8211; slip of the middle digit &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t happen if winwows 32767 worked consistently.  Damned Microcorp!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66650</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MichaelT

&gt;&gt;
What I was far more interested in was how artificial intelligence would combine with natural intelligence 
&gt;&gt;


Ooooooo
The Robot Series.  I think R.Daniel didn&#039;t make it, but the one known as The Millenium Man did!  UNless you mean cynorgs that is??!</description>
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<p>MichaelT</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;<br />
What I was far more interested in was how artificial intelligence would combine with natural intelligence<br />
&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Ooooooo<br />
The Robot Series.  I think R.Daniel didn&#8217;t make it, but the one known as The Millenium Man did!  UNless you mean cynorgs that is??!</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelt</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66646</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent far too much time reading about all of this back when I was 13-14. What I was far more interested in was how artificial intelligence would combine with natural intelligence rather than whether that artificial intelligence would be created. I&#039;m waiting for the day when people can travel across the internet.</description>
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<p>I spent far too much time reading about all of this back when I was 13-14. What I was far more interested in was how artificial intelligence would combine with natural intelligence rather than whether that artificial intelligence would be created. I&#8217;m waiting for the day when people can travel across the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66641</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks the car industry is already half way there. The average car contains more intelligence than the average driver.</description>
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<p>Methinks the car industry is already half way there. The average car contains more intelligence than the average driver.</p>
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		<title>By: samiuela</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiuela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were meant to have HAL by 2001, but I think we are still quite a long way from achieving that sort of intelligence.

I doubt if we can predict what the effect of such technology (AI) will be; we&#039;ll just have to wait and see how it turns out.</description>
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<p>We were meant to have HAL by 2001, but I think we are still quite a long way from achieving that sort of intelligence.</p>
<p>I doubt if we can predict what the effect of such technology (AI) will be; we&#8217;ll just have to wait and see how it turns out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66616</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I think you might find that E.E.(Doc) Smith was first when he referred to &quot;the singularity in the lens&quot;. the grey lensman series.</description>
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<p>PS I think you might find that E.E.(Doc) Smith was first when he referred to &#8220;the singularity in the lens&#8221;. the grey lensman series.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/11/29/the-singularity/#comment-66614</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frog
Do you remember Asimov&#039;s shortest short story?

If you do, &#039;nuff said!</description>
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<p>Frog<br />
Do you remember Asimov&#8217;s shortest short story?</p>
<p>If you do, &#8217;nuff said!</p>
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