by frog
It was quite amusing to hear Tarinana Turia criticising Maori electorate voters for failing to split their vote in Hauraki Waikato and Ikaroa Rawhiti:
We were very disappointed to think that in Ikaroa Rawhiti and in the Hauraki Waikato the people there couldn’t see beyond the immediate. They could have voted the other way and they would have had four members in but they chose to keep all their eggs in that basket. And of course we know now that they’re in opposition.
Turia spent most of the campaign telling lambasting the Greens for suggesting that voters in Maori electorates should vote strategically. Of course our strategic voting suggestion was based on more closely shared policy platforms than between the Maori Party and Labour, as this chart at No Right Turn suggests.
As it turns out the Greens increased our raw vote in the Maori electorates slightly despite overall turnout in those electorates falling significantly from the last election.
Published in Environment & Resource Management by frog on Tue, November 11th, 2008
Tags: , hauraki waikato, ikaroa rawhiti, maori party, tariana turia
on the trolls and those who are unable to keep on topic
“…Turia spent most of the campaign telling lambasting the Greens for suggesting that voters in Maori electorates should vote strategically….”
Maybe the Greens could have focused more on the general
roll with regard to strategic voting…
party vote only Green
I’m sure Judith Tizard thinks so , tho it was presumably the ‘pox on both their houses’ effect kicking in too
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yes..you were ’spoilers’..
..you effectively split the vote..
..whereas..to my mind..
..you shouldn’t stand in the maori seats..
..t’is presumptuous/arrogant/unthinking in the extreme..that you do so..
..the maori party are your natural allies..
..why try to take from them..?
..in their sphere of influence/area of contest..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
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I don’t believe it was ‘unthinking’ to stand. I watched Metiria patiently but vainly, trying to explain the rationale to panelists on Eye to Eye. It wasn’t something undertaken lightly, nor was the situation something that could have been avoided.
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No party has a God given right to any seat. Everyone has to compete. Why have a vote otherwise. Now if there is mutual accommodation….
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The distances between parties graphic you saw at No Right Turn, was generated by TheyWorkForYou.co.nz based on party bill voting in the 48th parliament.
Given that the Māori Party and National may be about to enter a coalition agreement, it’s interesting to note that in the 48th Parliament they voted differently from each other in 73% (80 out of 110) of the final bill reading votes.
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Thanks Rob – apologies for not following that graph right back to source. Great work by you and your team at http://theyworkforyou.co.nz
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just a note on that chart:
although the two dimensions don’t really have their own important meanings, you have to measure the distance between two points by adding together the vertical distance and the horizontal distance, not by measuring a straight line. This makes the Greens and the Maori Party much further from National and ACT than it may appear.
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