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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/30/time-for-bigfoot-to-tread-lightly/#comment-62922</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frog&#039;s link to the report requires a bit hunting to find the actual pdf which turns out to be here.
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/living_planet_report_2008.pdf

The graph on page 16 of 48 tells the full story. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are well below the first world average for carbon footprint. It&#039;s only when cropland, grazing land, forest and fishing grounds are added that these three countries making it into the top ten. Unfortunately the ecological foorprint isn&#039;t treated the same way as the water footprint - &lt;i&gt; The total water footprint of a country is
made up of two components. The internal
water footprint is the volume of water
needed to grow and provide the goods and
services which are produced and consumed
inside that country. The external water
footprint results from consumption of
imported goods, or in other words, water that
is used for the production of goods in the
exporting country. A country’s exports are
not included as part of its water footprint. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p>Frog&#8217;s link to the report requires a bit hunting to find the actual pdf which turns out to be here.<br />
<a href="http://assets.panda.org/downloads/living_planet_report_2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://assets.panda.org/downloads/living_planet_report_2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>The graph on page 16 of 48 tells the full story. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are well below the first world average for carbon footprint. It&#8217;s only when cropland, grazing land, forest and fishing grounds are added that these three countries making it into the top ten. Unfortunately the ecological foorprint isn&#8217;t treated the same way as the water footprint &#8211; <i> The total water footprint of a country is<br />
made up of two components. The internal<br />
water footprint is the volume of water<br />
needed to grow and provide the goods and<br />
services which are produced and consumed<br />
inside that country. The external water<br />
footprint results from consumption of<br />
imported goods, or in other words, water that<br />
is used for the production of goods in the<br />
exporting country. A country’s exports are<br />
not included as part of its water footprint. </i></p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/30/time-for-bigfoot-to-tread-lightly/#comment-62854</link>
		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the Greens want immigration?</description>
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<p>and the Greens want immigration?</p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/30/time-for-bigfoot-to-tread-lightly/#comment-62848</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welly, I think the point was:

&quot;Worldwide, the average ecological footprint jumped from 2.2 global hectares per person to 2.7 global hectares per person, but the world has only an average 2.1ha available per person.

“Humans are now exceeding the planet’s regenerative capacity by about 30 percent,” the report said.&quot;</description>
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<p>welly, I think the point was:</p>
<p>&#8220;Worldwide, the average ecological footprint jumped from 2.2 global hectares per person to 2.7 global hectares per person, but the world has only an average 2.1ha available per person.</p>
<p>“Humans are now exceeding the planet’s regenerative capacity by about 30 percent,” the report said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/30/time-for-bigfoot-to-tread-lightly/#comment-62844</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Why are we beating ourselves up over this

The Greens would have nothing to do if we didn&#039;t....</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Why are we beating ourselves up over this</p>
<p>The Greens would have nothing to do if we didn&#8217;t&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: welly</title>
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		<dc:creator>welly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this report notes that NZ need 7.7 Global Ha /person to survive, It also notes (and not heavily published) that NZ has 14.1 Global Ha. /person as its total bio-capacity, so we are only using just over half of the capacity of NZ.  

According to the report we are in surplus by 6.4 Global Ha/person,  Why are we beating ourselves up over this, According to WWF, NZ has ample biocapacity for our consumption, wake me when we get close to 14.</description>
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<p>While this report notes that NZ need 7.7 Global Ha /person to survive, It also notes (and not heavily published) that NZ has 14.1 Global Ha. /person as its total bio-capacity, so we are only using just over half of the capacity of NZ.  </p>
<p>According to the report we are in surplus by 6.4 Global Ha/person,  Why are we beating ourselves up over this, According to WWF, NZ has ample biocapacity for our consumption, wake me when we get close to 14.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No the solution is simple given that this is a per capita measure.

Just double the population and our per capita footprint halves and we are winners!

So easy when you know how.</description>
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<p>No the solution is simple given that this is a per capita measure.</p>
<p>Just double the population and our per capita footprint halves and we are winners!</p>
<p>So easy when you know how.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only hope...</description>
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<p>One can only hope&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Afghanistan is one of the countries with the best carbon footprint, the solution to New Zealand problems is simple.

Harbour a few terrorist (ah, wait the urewares is full of them - so we are ahead there), have someone blow up a building in the USA and claim responsibility for harbouring the terrorist.

Before you know it the USA will flatten New Zeaalnd in its war on terror and our ecological foot print will be at the top of the list!

Easy.

Does anyone seriously want to live in countries with small ecological foot prints?  Bangladesh for example, or  Chad, Haiti?

Suppose all the greens will be emigrating shortly?</description>
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<p>As Afghanistan is one of the countries with the best carbon footprint, the solution to New Zealand problems is simple.</p>
<p>Harbour a few terrorist (ah, wait the urewares is full of them &#8211; so we are ahead there), have someone blow up a building in the USA and claim responsibility for harbouring the terrorist.</p>
<p>Before you know it the USA will flatten New Zeaalnd in its war on terror and our ecological foot print will be at the top of the list!</p>
<p>Easy.</p>
<p>Does anyone seriously want to live in countries with small ecological foot prints?  Bangladesh for example, or  Chad, Haiti?</p>
<p>Suppose all the greens will be emigrating shortly?</p>
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		<title>By: XYY</title>
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		<dc:creator>XYY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only sixth?

Bah, wait until National win the election. Once John Key puts a stop to the fitting of insulation in old and new houses, we can easily push aside those Danish and Australian upstarts.</description>
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<p>Only sixth?</p>
<p>Bah, wait until National win the election. Once John Key puts a stop to the fitting of insulation in old and new houses, we can easily push aside those Danish and Australian upstarts.</p>
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