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	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: pingpong</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/21/climate-change-and-the-economy/#comment-61562</link>
		<dc:creator>pingpong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, as the New Scientist editorial says in the latest amazing issue focussing on &quot;The Folly of Growth&quot; says: &quot;When the human population was counted in millions and resources were sparse, people could simply move to pastures new. But with 9 billion people expected around 2050, moving on is not an option. As politicians reconstruct the global economy, they should take heed. If we are to leave any kind of planet to our children we need an economic system that lets us live within our means.&quot;

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg20026782.500-editorial-time-to-banish-the-god-of-growth.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, as the New Scientist editorial says in the latest amazing issue focussing on &#8220;The Folly of Growth&#8221; says: &#8220;When the human population was counted in millions and resources were sparse, people could simply move to pastures new. But with 9 billion people expected around 2050, moving on is not an option. As politicians reconstruct the global economy, they should take heed. If we are to leave any kind of planet to our children we need an economic system that lets us live within our means.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg20026782.500-editorial-time-to-banish-the-god-of-growth.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg20026782.500-editorial-t ime-to-banish-the-god-of-growth.html</a>
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		<title>By: XYY</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/21/climate-change-and-the-economy/#comment-61538</link>
		<dc:creator>XYY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also from &lt;i&gt;the Independent&lt;/i&gt;:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/a-green-new-deal-can-save-the-worlds-economy-says-un-958696.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A &#039;Green New Deal&#039; can save the world&#039;s economy, says UN&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Top economists and United Nations leaders are working on a &quot;Green New Deal&quot; to create millions of jobs, revive the world economy, slash poverty and avert environmental disaster, as the financial markets plunge into their deepest crisis since the Great Depression.&lt;/i&gt;

From Scientific American:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=crunch-may-put-price-tag&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crunch May Put Price Tag on Environment&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Under standard economics, nations can boost their GDP -- briefly -- by chopping down all their forests and selling the timber, or by dynamiting coral reefs to catch all the fish. A rethink would stress the value of keeping nature intact.

Rockstrom said bank bailouts totaling hundreds of billions of dollars might &quot;change the mindset of the public...if we are willing to save investment banks, why not spend a similar amount on saving the planet?&quot; he said.&lt;/i&gt;

Coincidentally, Chrysler, Ford and GM received their first &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=tesla-motors-sputters-as-big-three-2008-10-16&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US$25bn bailout&lt;/a&gt; to belatedly &quot;green&quot; their cars on the back of the Wall Street rescue, while poor Tesla struggles to stay solvent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also from <i>the Independent</i>:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/a-green-new-deal-can-save-the-worlds-economy-says-un-958696.html" rel="nofollow">A &#8216;Green New Deal&#8217; can save the world&#8217;s economy, says UN</a></p>
<p><i>Top economists and United Nations leaders are working on a &#8220;Green New Deal&#8221; to create millions of jobs, revive the world economy, slash poverty and avert environmental disaster, as the financial markets plunge into their deepest crisis since the Great Depression.</i></p>
<p>From Scientific American:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=crunch-may-put-price-tag" rel="nofollow">Crunch May Put Price Tag on Environment</a></p>
<p><i>Under standard economics, nations can boost their GDP &#8212; briefly &#8212; by chopping down all their forests and selling the timber, or by dynamiting coral reefs to catch all the fish. A rethink would stress the value of keeping nature intact.</p>
<p>Rockstrom said bank bailouts totaling hundreds of billions of dollars might &#8220;change the mindset of the public&#8230;if we are willing to save investment banks, why not spend a similar amount on saving the planet?&#8221; he said.</i></p>
<p>Coincidentally, Chrysler, Ford and GM received their first <a HREF="http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=tesla-motors-sputters-as-big-three-2008-10-16" rel="nofollow">US$25bn bailout</a> to belatedly &#8220;green&#8221; their cars on the back of the Wall Street rescue, while poor Tesla struggles to stay solvent.
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