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		<title>By: Valis</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59543</link>
		<dc:creator>Valis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Who is the Green MP in Ohariu - all we get is “vote for me”.

That&#039;s because we don&#039;t want your electorate vote.  Gareth Hughes is standing in Ohariu.  He&#039;s 11th on the list.

&quot;The Greens, unlike other parties, have committed to saying who we will work with before the election&quot;

Frog has this wrong.  The statement will be about who our preference to support in govt is if a policy deal can be struck, and doesn&#039;t mean that we wouldn&#039;t work in some other capacity with someone else, like we&#039;ve done with Labour the last two terms.

&quot;Make it National. I may even vote Green if you do.&quot;

The decision will be made on the policies and likely programmes of the next government.  Given what the Nats have already said about their approach to the environment, plus that their social policy is the opposite of ours, I&#039;ll be very surprised if its them.</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Who is the Green MP in Ohariu &#8211; all we get is “vote for me”.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because we don&#8217;t want your electorate vote.  Gareth Hughes is standing in Ohariu.  He&#8217;s 11th on the list.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Greens, unlike other parties, have committed to saying who we will work with before the election&#8221;</p>
<p>Frog has this wrong.  The statement will be about who our preference to support in govt is if a policy deal can be struck, and doesn&#8217;t mean that we wouldn&#8217;t work in some other capacity with someone else, like we&#8217;ve done with Labour the last two terms.</p>
<p>&#8220;Make it National. I may even vote Green if you do.&#8221;</p>
<p>The decision will be made on the policies and likely programmes of the next government.  Given what the Nats have already said about their approach to the environment, plus that their social policy is the opposite of ours, I&#8217;ll be very surprised if its them.</p>
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		<title>By: davec</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59541</link>
		<dc:creator>davec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`m in Ohariu too. Dunne will be a shoo-in in Ohariau. Nobody cares what party he is in, if he was Green Party MP he`d win too. Chauvel is a dick, Shanks however is genuine. Who is the Green MP in Ohariu - all we get is &quot;vote for me&quot;.
&lt;i&gt;The Greens, unlike other parties, have committed to saying who we will work with before the election&lt;/i&gt;
Make it National. I may even vote Green if you do.</description>
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<p>I`m in Ohariu too. Dunne will be a shoo-in in Ohariau. Nobody cares what party he is in, if he was Green Party MP he`d win too. Chauvel is a dick, Shanks however is genuine. Who is the Green MP in Ohariu &#8211; all we get is &#8220;vote for me&#8221;.<br />
<i>The Greens, unlike other parties, have committed to saying who we will work with before the election</i><br />
Make it National. I may even vote Green if you do.</p>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59485</link>
		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Greenfly suspects that Mr &quot;sensible, centrist United Future” is being funded by “extremists from the fringes&quot;

thats a start! 

And talking about extreme fringes - that is exactly what  Dunne wears on his head - now there&#039;s a rebuttal for Gareth to use!

Keep it coming team!</description>
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<p>So Greenfly suspects that Mr &#8220;sensible, centrist United Future” is being funded by “extremists from the fringes&#8221;</p>
<p>thats a start! </p>
<p>And talking about extreme fringes &#8211; that is exactly what  Dunne wears on his head &#8211; now there&#8217;s a rebuttal for Gareth to use!</p>
<p>Keep it coming team!</p>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59483</link>
		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think Katrina too - would Ohariu Greens vote Katrina for a good cause?

I sure would, and I wouldn&#039;t miss Winstone either. It would be some consolation if the Nats do win and subject us to a more extreme version of labour&#039;s idealogy.

and perhaps the Nats will find some dirt on Chauvel to make him less appealing to the middle ground.

There is hope - but is the big guy on Peter Dunnes side?</description>
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<p>I would think Katrina too &#8211; would Ohariu Greens vote Katrina for a good cause?</p>
<p>I sure would, and I wouldn&#8217;t miss Winstone either. It would be some consolation if the Nats do win and subject us to a more extreme version of labour&#8217;s idealogy.</p>
<p>and perhaps the Nats will find some dirt on Chauvel to make him less appealing to the middle ground.</p>
<p>There is hope &#8211; but is the big guy on Peter Dunnes side?</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59481</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and so do I Blue Peter, and so do I, especially given that they are so upfront and honest and that they deal with such open and trustworthy people, like Don, John Bill and Peter.</description>
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<p>and so do I Blue Peter, and so do I, especially given that they are so upfront and honest and that they deal with such open and trustworthy people, like Don, John Bill and Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59479</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might not agree with anything they say, Greenfly, but I defend to the death their right to say it. 

They&#039;re pretty harmless, really. The work. They pay their taxes. Very conservative, obviously.</description>
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<p>I might not agree with anything they say, Greenfly, but I defend to the death their right to say it. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re pretty harmless, really. The work. They pay their taxes. Very conservative, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59478</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t vote, BP, it&#039;s true, but they do make them starchy selves busy about the place, like Santa&#039;s Little Helpers, manning the phone lines :-)  and they do have pots of money to line the pockets of those who might further their causes. Now who in that neck of the woods might they look to...?</description>
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<p>They don&#8217;t vote, BP, it&#8217;s true, but they do make them starchy selves busy about the place, like Santa&#8217;s Little Helpers, manning the phone lines <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   and they do have pots of money to line the pockets of those who might further their causes. Now who in that neck of the woods might they look to&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59477</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. I suspect Labour and National would be neck and neck. 

Normally I&#039;d say Labour in this electorate, but they&#039;ve fallen from grace of late. I think Katrina would be good, but that&#039;s my personal view. 

The other candiates will get nowhere.</description>
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<p>Good question. I suspect Labour and National would be neck and neck. </p>
<p>Normally I&#8217;d say Labour in this electorate, but they&#8217;ve fallen from grace of late. I think Katrina would be good, but that&#8217;s my personal view. </p>
<p>The other candiates will get nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP, So if Peter Dunne was &#039;unpuffed&#039;, i.e. somehow his credibility as a bastion ofthe safe middle ground was unhinged, who would you tip to unseat him?

Charles Chauvel (Labour) list: 27, list MP. Entered Parliament July 2006 replacing Jim Sutton who retired from Parliament. Also stood in Ohariu in 2005. Former lawyer.
Katrina Shanks (National) list: 46, list MP. Associate Commerce, Associate Economic Development. Entered Parliament February 2007 as a replacement for Don Brash. Accountant.</description>
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<p>BP, So if Peter Dunne was &#8216;unpuffed&#8217;, i.e. somehow his credibility as a bastion ofthe safe middle ground was unhinged, who would you tip to unseat him?</p>
<p>Charles Chauvel (Labour) list: 27, list MP. Entered Parliament July 2006 replacing Jim Sutton who retired from Parliament. Also stood in Ohariu in 2005. Former lawyer.<br />
Katrina Shanks (National) list: 46, list MP. Associate Commerce, Associate Economic Development. Entered Parliament February 2007 as a replacement for Don Brash. Accountant.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Oharia is an Exclusive Brethren stronghold. Is that you BP?

No, but I know who you&#039;re talking about. They don&#039;t vote though, do they? 

Oharui includes Khandallah, and stretches through Newlands and out to Tawa. So, you&#039;ve got very wealthy people, and working class. A curious mix that seems to like the safe middle ground, above all else.</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Oharia is an Exclusive Brethren stronghold. Is that you BP?</p>
<p>No, but I know who you&#8217;re talking about. They don&#8217;t vote though, do they? </p>
<p>Oharui includes Khandallah, and stretches through Newlands and out to Tawa. So, you&#8217;ve got very wealthy people, and working class. A curious mix that seems to like the safe middle ground, above all else.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohariu/Belmont, ne? Mr Dunne reminds me of a cane toad. Puffy, toxic. Didn&#039;t he once have to confess to the House that he had been a dope smoker?</description>
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<p>Ohariu/Belmont, ne? Mr Dunne reminds me of a cane toad. Puffy, toxic. Didn&#8217;t he once have to confess to the House that he had been a dope smoker?</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59466</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;ou can play the game BP, but i vote Green because our MPs work to achieve real gains in the real world - not in the fictional world of one-up-man-ship you prefer to occupy, BP.

I do like to play the game. 

The problem I see with the Green approach is its too religious. Not open to pragmatism and reason. 

Whilst the Greens say and do some genuinely good things, and I admire their openness, I just wish they were a lot more Patrick Moore, and a lot less Mao. I think a lot of people within the Greens are genuine, but the problem is that they are genuinely mistaken on a number of issues.</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;ou can play the game BP, but i vote Green because our MPs work to achieve real gains in the real world &#8211; not in the fictional world of one-up-man-ship you prefer to occupy, BP.</p>
<p>I do like to play the game. </p>
<p>The problem I see with the Green approach is its too religious. Not open to pragmatism and reason. </p>
<p>Whilst the Greens say and do some genuinely good things, and I admire their openness, I just wish they were a lot more Patrick Moore, and a lot less Mao. I think a lot of people within the Greens are genuine, but the problem is that they are genuinely mistaken on a number of issues.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59464</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oharia is an Exclusive Brethren stronghold. Is that you BP?</description>
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<p>Oharia is an Exclusive Brethren stronghold. Is that you BP?</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59463</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Who is more likley to get enough support, or split the vote between them

National has been campaigning hard in this electorate for some time. 
I think it&#039;s highly unlikely Dunne will be unseated, however. 

He&#039;s well liked for simply being Peter Dunne.</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Who is more likley to get enough support, or split the vote between them</p>
<p>National has been campaigning hard in this electorate for some time.<br />
I think it&#8217;s highly unlikely Dunne will be unseated, however. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s well liked for simply being Peter Dunne.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59462</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Are Ohiaru voters left or right leaning?

I&#039;m Ohariu. It&#039;s mixed bag, home to both wealthy and poor voters. I think they like Dunne because he&#039;s &quot;a nice bloke&quot;. My wife and sister in law vote for him, much to my amusement.</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Are Ohiaru voters left or right leaning?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Ohariu. It&#8217;s mixed bag, home to both wealthy and poor voters. I think they like Dunne because he&#8217;s &#8220;a nice bloke&#8221;. My wife and sister in law vote for him, much to my amusement.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59457</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dangermoose -

&quot;You can play the game BP, but i vote Green because our MPs work to achieve real gains in the real world - not in the fictional world of one-up-man-ship you prefer to occupy, BP.&quot;

well spoke!</description>
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<p>dangermoose -</p>
<p>&#8220;You can play the game BP, but i vote Green because our MPs work to achieve real gains in the real world &#8211; not in the fictional world of one-up-man-ship you prefer to occupy, BP.&#8221;</p>
<p>well spoke!</p>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59454</link>
		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr Dunne said Helen Clark&#039;s comments showed she wanted a more left-leaning government.

He said greater Green influence would mean higher tax, higher welfare spending and a very expensive emissions trading scheme&quot;.

&quot;The choices facing voters on November 8 are becoming clearer,&quot; Mr Dunne said. &quot;We can have either a National or Labour-led government driven by extremists from the fringes or a government being guided by sensible, centrist parties like United Future.&quot;

- What a drivel merchant, wouldn&#039;t it be nice to pop his little bubble of self importance and whisk away his little anti-green soap box.

Who to vote for in Ohiaru to unseat him? If i was there I would even consider voting for the National candidate if I thought that they were more likley to unseat this snivelly noob.

Charles Chauvel (Labour) list: 27, list MP. Entered Parliament July 2006 replacing Jim Sutton who retired from Parliament. Also stood in Ohariu in 2005. Former lawyer. 
Katrina Shanks (National) list: 46, list MP. Associate Commerce, Associate Economic Development. Entered Parliament February 2007 as a replacement for Don Brash. Accountant.

Operation unseat Peter Dunne

Are Ohiaru voters left or right leaning?

Who is more likley to get enough support, or split the vote between them Peter, giving the majority to a third party?

Anyone have some dirt? or other strategy?

Let me Know.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Mr Dunne said Helen Clark&#8217;s comments showed she wanted a more left-leaning government.</p>
<p>He said greater Green influence would mean higher tax, higher welfare spending and a very expensive emissions trading scheme&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;The choices facing voters on November 8 are becoming clearer,&#8221; Mr Dunne said. &#8220;We can have either a National or Labour-led government driven by extremists from the fringes or a government being guided by sensible, centrist parties like United Future.&#8221;</p>
<p>- What a drivel merchant, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to pop his little bubble of self importance and whisk away his little anti-green soap box.</p>
<p>Who to vote for in Ohiaru to unseat him? If i was there I would even consider voting for the National candidate if I thought that they were more likley to unseat this snivelly noob.</p>
<p>Charles Chauvel (Labour) list: 27, list MP. Entered Parliament July 2006 replacing Jim Sutton who retired from Parliament. Also stood in Ohariu in 2005. Former lawyer.<br />
Katrina Shanks (National) list: 46, list MP. Associate Commerce, Associate Economic Development. Entered Parliament February 2007 as a replacement for Don Brash. Accountant.</p>
<p>Operation unseat Peter Dunne</p>
<p>Are Ohiaru voters left or right leaning?</p>
<p>Who is more likley to get enough support, or split the vote between them Peter, giving the majority to a third party?</p>
<p>Anyone have some dirt? or other strategy?</p>
<p>Let me Know.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59452</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;For people with uninsulated homes. That was an easy one.

How many houses in NZ, how many are uninsulated, and how much does it cost to insulate each one? 

&gt;&gt;No, viruses. Technical - I know.

Scare mongering. GE provides us with a wealth of opportunity to makes peoples lives better. The downside risks, like with anything, are easily manageable.  

&gt;&gt;1 trolley bus network - 15 millon. 

I trolly bus network isn&#039;t going to provide anywhere near the ultilty of a road. And it has higher ongoing costs (susidies).</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;For people with uninsulated homes. That was an easy one.</p>
<p>How many houses in NZ, how many are uninsulated, and how much does it cost to insulate each one? </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;No, viruses. Technical &#8211; I know.</p>
<p>Scare mongering. GE provides us with a wealth of opportunity to makes peoples lives better. The downside risks, like with anything, are easily manageable.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;1 trolley bus network &#8211; 15 millon. </p>
<p>I trolly bus network isn&#8217;t going to provide anywhere near the ultilty of a road. And it has higher ongoing costs (susidies).</p>
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		<title>By: dangermoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>dangermoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP said:
Scary plants? 
No, viruses. Technical - I know. 

Insulated homes for whom? 
For people with uninsulated homes. That was an easy one. 

A modern PT network?  
Waterview = 2billion, Transmission gully = 1 billion. 
1 trolley bus network - 15 millon. For 3billion, you could get alot of trolley buses.</description>
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<p>BP said:<br />
Scary plants?<br />
No, viruses. Technical &#8211; I know. </p>
<p>Insulated homes for whom?<br />
For people with uninsulated homes. That was an easy one. </p>
<p>A modern PT network?<br />
Waterview = 2billion, Transmission gully = 1 billion.<br />
1 trolley bus network &#8211; 15 millon. For 3billion, you could get alot of trolley buses.</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/wherefore-art-thou/#comment-59434</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;And on the point of having no money to spend on anything, what are the core policy issues that will drive the Green Party’s thinking after the election.

The Greens have never been concerned about where the money comes from, so they are unlikely to start now.

The dancing money dragon will solve all problems....he is green...therefore he is good...and he will produce money......</description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;And on the point of having no money to spend on anything, what are the core policy issues that will drive the Green Party’s thinking after the election.</p>
<p>The Greens have never been concerned about where the money comes from, so they are unlikely to start now.</p>
<p>The dancing money dragon will solve all problems&#8230;.he is green&#8230;therefore he is good&#8230;and he will produce money&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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