Comments on: Local creativity http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:24:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mr Dennis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59586 Mr Dennis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:45:34 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59586 Greenfly, Family First and The Family Party are two unrelated organisations. http://www.familyparty.org.nz http://www.familyfirst.org.nz Greenfly, Family First and The Family Party are two unrelated organisations.
http://www.familyparty.org.nz
http://www.familyfirst.org.nz

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59577 StephenR Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:53:41 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59577 So how do the lefty christians bash themselves? So how do the lefty christians bash themselves?

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]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59576 Sam Buchanan Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:49:57 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59576 "Oh come on!! christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!!" Yeah - those bloody extremist Christians that punctured the Waihopai dome got the drubbing from the left they deserved. “Oh come on!! christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!!”

Yeah – those bloody extremist Christians that punctured the Waihopai dome got the drubbing from the left they deserved.

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59573 StephenR Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:39:20 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59573 <blockquote> christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!! </blockquote> Hyperbole - check!

christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!!

Hyperbole – check!

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]]> By: Valis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59545 Valis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:48:57 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59545 See other thread, Shunda. http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/green-party-campaign-launch-video/#comment-59544 See other thread, Shunda.

http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/green-party-campaign-launch-video  /#comment-59544

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]]> By: Shunda barunda http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59536 Shunda barunda Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:40:29 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59536 "How many conspiracy theories does that make today? Must be a record." Oh come on!! christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!! Which "fundamentalists" was Russel refering to, cause all the term means is someone who believes in the "fundamentals" of something. Is Russel a fundamentalist greenie? It was a blatant attempt to smear a large group of people as extremists and potential murderers. “How many conspiracy theories does that make today? Must be a record.”

Oh come on!! christian bashing has become a national pass time for those on the left!!
Which “fundamentalists” was Russel refering to, cause all the term means is someone who believes in the “fundamentals” of something.
Is Russel a fundamentalist greenie?
It was a blatant attempt to smear a large group of people as extremists and potential murderers.

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]]> By: Valis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59532 Valis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:18:00 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59532 "But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them." I really don't think so. Take the Nats ads in 2005, like Iwi/Kiwi. I remember we all thought they were so devastatingly good, both because they were effective, and because it was obvious it was really what the Nats thought. We hated the ads for their cynicism and dog whistling, not because it was good PR. "Like refering to christians as fundamentalist murderers." Gee, this story grows anew with each telling. Russel referred to the makers of death threats as fundamentalists, which could be right or wrong, but is really quite different to what you claim. "If that were a christian speaking about a muslim like that the greens would be outraged." If a muslim made a death threat against someone, the Greens would be just as outraged as if a christian did it and would support the person being threatened, not the person making the threat, as you do. "So why do they do it? cause for some reason it has become socially aceptable to attack this group, thanks to the efforts of liberal left wing media, and the greens are only too happy to join the band wagon." How many conspiracy theories does that make today? Must be a record. “But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them.”

I really don’t think so. Take the Nats ads in 2005, like Iwi/Kiwi. I remember we all thought they were so devastatingly good, both because they were effective, and because it was obvious it was really what the Nats thought. We hated the ads for their cynicism and dog whistling, not because it was good PR.

“Like refering to christians as fundamentalist murderers.”

Gee, this story grows anew with each telling. Russel referred to the makers of death threats as fundamentalists, which could be right or wrong, but is really quite different to what you claim.

“If that were a christian speaking about a muslim like that the greens would be outraged.”

If a muslim made a death threat against someone, the Greens would be just as outraged as if a christian did it and would support the person being threatened, not the person making the threat, as you do.

“So why do they do it? cause for some reason it has become socially aceptable to attack this group, thanks to the efforts of liberal left wing media, and the greens are only too happy to join the band wagon.”

How many conspiracy theories does that make today? Must be a record.

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]]> By: Shunda barunda http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59529 Shunda barunda Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:46:34 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59529 BP said "But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them" Like refering to christians as fundamentalist murderers. If that were a christian speaking about a muslim like that the greens would be outraged. So why do they do it? cause for some reason it has become socially aceptable to attack this group, thanks to the efforts of liberal left wing media, and the greens are only too happy to join the band wagon. BP said
“But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them”

Like refering to christians as fundamentalist murderers.
If that were a christian speaking about a muslim like that the greens would be outraged. So why do they do it? cause for some reason it has become socially aceptable to attack this group, thanks to the efforts of liberal left wing media, and the greens are only too happy to join the band wagon.

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]]> By: BluePeter http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59528 BluePeter Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:38:43 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59528 I do get them. I understand the demographic they are targeting. They do their PR job very well, and the agency should be applauded. But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them. I do get them. I understand the demographic they are targeting. They do their PR job very well, and the agency should be applauded.

But it amuses me that the Greens are using the same techniques they have been so dismissive of when others use them.

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59527 greenfly Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:01:32 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59527 Not thick, BP, but you're inability to 'get' the Green billboards indicates a certain impenetrablility :-) Not thick, BP, but you’re inability to ‘get’ the Green billboards indicates a certain impenetrablility :-)

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]]> By: wat dabney http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59526 wat dabney Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:00:44 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59526 - "Which all just shows promoting kiwi made does work." 'Does work' to do what? To squander money and resources? Certainly. - “Which all just shows promoting kiwi made does work.”

‘Does work’ to do what?

To squander money and resources? Certainly.

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]]> By: BluePeter http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59525 BluePeter Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:55:07 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59525 >>we can’t all be bright. You smart. Me so thick :) >>we can’t all be bright.

You smart. Me so thick :)

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]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59523 Sam Buchanan Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:53:31 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59523 "I have no idea what it means." Never mind, we can't all be bright. “I have no idea what it means.”

Never mind, we can’t all be bright.

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]]> By: BluePeter http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59522 BluePeter Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:51:35 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59522 I like the Green billboards. I think they are bang-on for their target demographic. I also think they are vacuous :) Like a car ad, with bunnies.... I like the Green billboards. I think they are bang-on for their target demographic.

I also think they are vacuous :)

Like a car ad, with bunnies….

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]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59521 Sam Buchanan Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:50:45 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59521 "I’m sure there was a time when the Greens had no money at all and so did everything themselves or not at all. Good to see we have enough to produce more effective communications now." Are they more effective? I'm concerned that people who want to run the country don't think themselves capable of thinking up their own election slogans/images. “I’m sure there was a time when the Greens had no money at all and so did everything themselves or not at all. Good to see we have enough to produce more effective communications now.”

Are they more effective? I’m concerned that people who want to run the country don’t think themselves capable of thinking up their own election slogans/images.

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59520 greenfly Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:49:45 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59520 I think the FF billboards are a very fair reflection of what they offer. "Others' reaction to the Green billboards have been overwhelmingly positive, thanks BP. I think the FF billboards are a very fair reflection of what they offer.
“Others’ reaction to the Green billboards have been overwhelmingly positive, thanks BP.

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]]> By: Valis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59512 Valis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:33:41 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59512 I don't think many Greens would say that, PB. I do like that Green Party ad right next to the photo on scoop though :-) I don’t think many Greens would say that, PB.

I do like that Green Party ad right next to the photo on scoop though :-)

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]]> By: BluePeter http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59508 BluePeter Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:14:21 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59508 If Greens think the Family First billboards are vacuous, now you'll understand others' reaction to the Greens billboard ;) They are the same, after all. If Greens think the Family First billboards are vacuous, now you’ll understand others’ reaction to the Greens billboard ;)

They are the same, after all.

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]]> By: greenfly http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59506 greenfly Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:58:44 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59506 Mr Dennis - you're a dag. Reading down, you get pff............ Mr Dennis – you’re a dag. Reading down, you get pff…………

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]]> By: Mr Dennis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59505 Mr Dennis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:56:04 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/07/local-creativity/#comment-59505 They were briefly the best billboards, but have been trumped now. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0809/S00330.htm They were briefly the best billboards, but have been trumped now.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0809/S00330.htm

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