Comments on: Dub, hip hop or techno? http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:02:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59392 Sam Buchanan Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:13:38 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59392 What does knowing about dub and techno have to do with knowledge of youth culture, Frog? Aren't the current manifestations of the genre just dusting off their previous incarnations with a new sales pitch? I have a middle-aged has-been fondness for The Clash's dub album (Sandinista from 1980 - itself a white-boy homage to the previous generation of innovators), but perhaps my belief in its existence is a sign of growing senility? I blame today's yoof. The number of young fogeys in (presumably) their mum's cast off Ramones T-shirts these days is shocking. No offence meant to the Ramones. See you at Punkfest. What does knowing about dub and techno have to do with knowledge of youth culture, Frog? Aren’t the current manifestations of the genre just dusting off their previous incarnations with a new sales pitch? I have a middle-aged has-been fondness for The Clash’s dub album (Sandinista from 1980 - itself a white-boy homage to the previous generation of innovators), but perhaps my belief in its existence is a sign of growing senility?

I blame today’s yoof. The number of young fogeys in (presumably) their mum’s cast off Ramones T-shirts these days is shocking. No offence meant to the Ramones. See you at Punkfest.

]]> By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59373 Kevyn Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:13:08 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59373 Frog, <i> Dub, hip hop or techno? </i> That's not even a properly constructed question. The only honest answers I can think of to that question is "what about them?" or "what do you want to know about them?" From the answers the politicians gave I presume the question was placed in some context juring the phone interview. If they were actually asked "which would you prefer to listen to - Dub, hip hop or techno?" then we got six honest, non-judgemental answers. Perhaps in the interest of providing balance, they could have asked a) bluegrass, country, or western b) heavy metal, R&B, soul c) The wiggles, Bananas in Pajamas, Barney Including the original question, that covers most age groups, regions of the country, and genuine musical genres. Frog, Dub, hip hop or techno? That’s not even a properly constructed question. The only honest answers I can think of to that question is “what about them?” or “what do you want to know about them?”

From the answers the politicians gave I presume the question was placed in some context juring the phone interview. If they were actually asked “which would you prefer to listen to - Dub, hip hop or techno?” then we got six honest, non-judgemental answers.

Perhaps in the interest of providing balance, they could have asked
a) bluegrass, country, or western
b) heavy metal, R&B, soul
c) The wiggles, Bananas in Pajamas, Barney
Including the original question, that covers most age groups, regions of the country, and genuine musical genres.

]]> By: toad http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59370 toad Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:09:06 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59370 How come none of them <b><a href="http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/boot-camps-weve-got-a-bigger-problem-now/" rel="nofollow">picked this</a></b>? John Key, Phil Goff & Winnie the Poop especially, given the reference to boot camps? How come none of them picked this?

John Key, Phil Goff & Winnie the Poop especially, given the reference to boot camps?

]]> By: MikeE http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59365 MikeE Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:38:05 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59365 And ... its not CALLED TECHNO! Techno is a subgenre of dance music, which you barely ever hear in NZ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno And … its not CALLED TECHNO!

Techno is a subgenre of dance music, which you barely ever hear in NZ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno

]]> By: MikeE http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59364 MikeE Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:36:41 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59364 It was about as sensible of a question as asking me who my favorite opera singer is.... I'd dismiss the stupid question out of hand straight away. That said key looked a little silly with his answer, as did clark. It was about as sensible of a question as asking me who my favorite opera singer is….

I’d dismiss the stupid question out of hand straight away. That said key looked a little silly with his answer, as did clark.

]]> By: big bro http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59353 big bro Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:04:09 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59353 Frog "I don’t care if they don’t like dub, hip hop or techno. It was the dismissive way they treated those genres of music I found a bit odd" Surely you are not being serious? Frog

“I don’t care if they don’t like dub, hip hop or techno. It was the dismissive way they treated those genres of music I found a bit odd”

Surely you are not being serious?

]]> By: frog http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59351 frog Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:01:34 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59351 I don't care if they don't like dub, hip hop or techno. It was the dismissive way they treated those genres of music I found a bit odd. Apart from Jeanette and Key, they had made what I assume is a politically strategic choice to actively show their dislike for those genres. (Because that's how most of these questions are answered by politicians.) The alternative would have been to say 'I don't really enjoy any of those genres but my preference is ...' or to say 'I don't know'. I don’t care if they don’t like dub, hip hop or techno. It was the dismissive way they treated those genres of music I found a bit odd. Apart from Jeanette and Key, they had made what I assume is a politically strategic choice to actively show their dislike for those genres. (Because that’s how most of these questions are answered by politicians.) The alternative would have been to say ‘I don’t really enjoy any of those genres but my preference is …’ or to say ‘I don’t know’.

]]> By: kiore1 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59342 kiore1 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:08:26 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/10/06/dub-hip-hop-or-techno/#comment-59342 I cant see how not liking the type of music young people listen to means not supporting youth culture. Any more than being straight means not supporting gay culture (or vice versa), or being Christian means not supporting Jewish culture (or vice versa). Personally I think there is nothing more pathetic than a middle age man or woman pretending to be a teenager. i work with young people aged 19-26 most days, and they respect me more for not being a phoney and pretending I like something I don't I cant see how not liking the type of music young people listen to means not supporting youth culture. Any more than being straight means not supporting gay culture (or vice versa), or being Christian means not supporting Jewish culture (or vice versa). Personally I think there is nothing more pathetic than a middle age man or woman pretending to be a teenager. i work with young people aged 19-26 most days, and they respect me more for not being a phoney and pretending I like something I don’t

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