Comments on: The one that got away? http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:02:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Ianmac http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57735 Ianmac Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:48:43 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57735 Gordon Campbell writes well on this subject at http://election08.scoop.co.nz/brian-henry%e2%80%99s-last-stand-at-the-privileges-committee/#comment-7282 Gordon Campbell writes well on this subject at
http://election08.scoop.co.nz/brian-henry%e2%80%99s-last-stand-at-the- privileges-committee/#comment-7282

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57661 kahikatea Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:47:37 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57661 peterquixote Says: September 16th, 2008 at 7:07 pm > who gives a rats arse, > politicians lie. > So what. Politicians need to be trained. If we take it for granted that politicians will lie, there's no incentive for them not to. But if we are clear about expecting them to be honest, and rejecting them if they are not, we should get better behaviour from them. peterquixote Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

> who gives a rats arse,
> politicians lie.
> So what.

Politicians need to be trained. If we take it for granted that politicians will lie, there’s no incentive for them not to. But if we are clear about expecting them to be honest, and rejecting them if they are not, we should get better behaviour from them.

]]> By: eredwen http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57652 eredwen Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:55:36 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57652 peterquixote, I believe that that your expectations are right! The more I watch "Political Animals" in action, the more I realize that it can be very difficult to get rid of someone with a thick skin who does not want to go. peterquixote, I believe that that your expectations are right!

The more I watch “Political Animals” in action, the more I realize that it can be very difficult to get rid of someone with a thick skin who does not want to go.

]]> By: peterquixote http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57642 peterquixote Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:07:03 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57642 who gives a rats arse, politicians lie. So what. Most people have no idea what this is all about. I expect that Winston will punt hard with the elderly, giving clear ideas how he will preserve their interests and return with 5% plus. Which is why Helen is playing it steady and John Key made a very big mistake to write him off. who gives a rats arse,
politicians lie.
So what.
Most people have no idea what this is all about.
I expect that Winston will punt hard with the elderly,
giving clear ideas how he will preserve their interests
and return with 5% plus.
Which is why Helen is playing it steady and John Key made a very big mistake to write him off.

]]> By: wat dabney http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57635 wat dabney Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:02:53 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57635 Doesn't Peters' lawyer remind you of one of those Dead End Kids from early Warner films, changing his story as the facts emerge? "Yeah. I remember now. Yeah. That's right. Sure. It was Shorty. Yeah, Shorty done it. I saw him. I remember now." Doesn’t Peters’ lawyer remind you of one of those Dead End Kids from early Warner films, changing his story as the facts emerge?

“Yeah. I remember now. Yeah. That’s right. Sure. It was Shorty. Yeah, Shorty done it. I saw him. I remember now.”

]]> By: eredwen http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57626 eredwen Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:41:48 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57626 The question is, will "the fish that got away" get smellier and smellier to his fans over the next eight weeks or will these people forget ? You have to hand it to Winston Peters, he is a remarkable survivor, with a very thick skin ! The question is, will “the fish that got away” get smellier and smellier to his fans over the next eight weeks or will these people forget ?

You have to hand it to Winston Peters, he is a remarkable survivor, with a very thick skin !

]]> By: frog http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57618 frog Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:02:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57618 DPF - I do, however, believe that there will be an interesting split on the committee, that will be more about politics than ideology. I am ready and willing to be proved wrong, as no other blogs agree with me. I still feel, however, that this fish will get away... DPF - I do, however, believe that there will be an interesting split on the committee, that will be more about politics than ideology.

I am ready and willing to be proved wrong, as no other blogs agree with me. I still feel, however, that this fish will get away…

]]> By: frog http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57616 frog Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:57:04 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57616 DPF - the point that privileges only has to balance probabilities was my point exactly. The probability that a group of MPs, who may themselves have to sit before sucha committee themselves one day, will convict one of their own when the evidence is conflicting, is very low. I never said I liked it, just calling it as I see it playing out. Others will try and spin it as some sort of left/right issue. DPF - the point that privileges only has to balance probabilities was my point exactly. The probability that a group of MPs, who may themselves have to sit before sucha committee themselves one day, will convict one of their own when the evidence is conflicting, is very low.

I never said I liked it, just calling it as I see it playing out. Others will try and spin it as some sort of left/right issue.

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57612 kahikatea Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:33:42 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57612 big bro Says: September 16th, 2008 at 12:04 pm > If you believe that you will believe anything, are the Greens that tied up with Labour that you are going to believe the word of Peters and Peters lawyer over the word (and overwhelming evidence) of Owen Glenn? Believe it? no. Accept that it might be right and that therefore he hasn't been proven guilty? Unfortunately, it may turn out that way. Just like what happened with the Clint Rickards case. big bro Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

> If you believe that you will believe anything, are the Greens that tied up with Labour that you are going to believe the word of Peters and Peters lawyer over the word (and overwhelming evidence) of Owen Glenn?

Believe it? no.

Accept that it might be right and that therefore he hasn’t been proven guilty? Unfortunately, it may turn out that way.

Just like what happened with the Clint Rickards case.

]]> By: Bryan Spondre http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57610 Bryan Spondre Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:21:32 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/the-one-that-got-away/#comment-57610 I'm with Frog on this, I think Slippery will get off the hook at least with the PC.Let's hope the SFO nails him. I’m with Frog on this, I think Slippery will get off the hook at least with the PC.Let’s hope the SFO nails him.

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