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	<title>Comments on: Peters: Turn off, tune out, drop out</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57780</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57780</guid>
		<description>"old fogeys were around when the plod photos were taken: "
WTF?
oh&#62; "old fogeys were around when the old photos were taken"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;old fogeys were around when the plod photos were taken: &#8221;<br />
WTF?<br />
oh&gt; &#8220;old fogeys were around when the old photos were taken&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57779</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57779</guid>
		<description>"Nationalism doesnâ€™t have to be negative.   It doesnâ€™t have to be directed against some other race or nation.   In fact a purely negative expression of nationalism can not endure.   People will only go on supporting a national entity when it provides them with a true sense of community.  They need to believe that the nation will give them moral and material support, care for them in old age, and impart meaning and value to their lives.
"

and nations that are comfortable are less likely to make war (eg Sweden).... ie not overpopulated with space for residence to grow veges , do up vintage cars and grow giant pumpkins.

"Winstonâ€™s  â€œnationalismâ€? most obviously finds positive expression in the way he champions the interests of the aged.   There may be a large element of political opportunism, but the fact remains that way in which it cares for its aged people is a litmus test for the  well-being of any social 
entity.   There are the occasional snide remarks made about Petersâ€™ grey constituency, but that is as far as it goes.   Within the existing political system, appeals to interest groups are  deemed to be a legitimate political strategy, and no one in the political firmament has the audacity to suggest 
that the aged or the young should be denied the right to a political champion."

old fogeys were around when the plod photos were taken: when Queenston was a holiday town and people only lived in a remote seaside spot because that's where they wanted to live not to add to a &lt;i&gt;propiteh portfolio&lt;/i&gt;.

"But the National, Labour, and ACT parties have done an about turn.  They now concede that outside forces (specifically global capital and the â€œinternational communityâ€?) can dictate both the economic and the geo-political direction of the New Zealand state.   This decision is deemed to 
be â€œpragmaticâ€? and â€œrealistâ€?.
"
ah yes Bailey's are off to Dubai looking for buyers for our coastal land etc.... (God Bless Them   :roll: )

and the Greens wouldn't go &lt;i&gt;near&lt;/i&gt; immigration.... witness the fall of the campgrounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nationalism doesnâ€™t have to be negative.   It doesnâ€™t have to be directed against some other race or nation.   In fact a purely negative expression of nationalism can not endure.   People will only go on supporting a national entity when it provides them with a true sense of community.  They need to believe that the nation will give them moral and material support, care for them in old age, and impart meaning and value to their lives.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>and nations that are comfortable are less likely to make war (eg Sweden)&#8230;. ie not overpopulated with space for residence to grow veges , do up vintage cars and grow giant pumpkins.</p>
<p>&#8220;Winstonâ€™s  â€œnationalismâ€? most obviously finds positive expression in the way he champions the interests of the aged.   There may be a large element of political opportunism, but the fact remains that way in which it cares for its aged people is a litmus test for the  well-being of any social<br />
entity.   There are the occasional snide remarks made about Petersâ€™ grey constituency, but that is as far as it goes.   Within the existing political system, appeals to interest groups are  deemed to be a legitimate political strategy, and no one in the political firmament has the audacity to suggest<br />
that the aged or the young should be denied the right to a political champion.&#8221;</p>
<p>old fogeys were around when the plod photos were taken: when Queenston was a holiday town and people only lived in a remote seaside spot because that&#8217;s where they wanted to live not to add to a <i>propiteh portfolio</i>.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the National, Labour, and ACT parties have done an about turn.  They now concede that outside forces (specifically global capital and the â€œinternational communityâ€?) can dictate both the economic and the geo-political direction of the New Zealand state.   This decision is deemed to<br />
be â€œpragmaticâ€? and â€œrealistâ€?.<br />
&#8221;<br />
ah yes Bailey&#8217;s are off to Dubai looking for buyers for our coastal land etc&#8230;. (God Bless Them   <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>and the Greens wouldn&#8217;t go <i>near</i> immigration&#8230;. witness the fall of the campgrounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Fischer</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57761</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57761</guid>
		<description>Extracted from an item in www.republican.co.nz which goes some way to explaining why Winston is right...

New Zealand First "a socially conservative and nationalist party..."

&lt;strong&gt;[edit: Geoff that post is tooo long so I've cut it short sorry!  Can you just provide a link the full article rather than reproducing the whole thing?]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extracted from an item in <a href="http://www.republican.co.nz" >http://www.republican.co.nz</a> which goes some way to explaining why Winston is right&#8230;</p>
<p>New Zealand First &#8220;a socially conservative and nationalist party&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>[edit: Geoff that post is tooo long so I&#8217;ve cut it short sorry!  Can you just provide a link the full article rather than reproducing the whole thing?]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57669</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57669</guid>
		<description>" the I MiEV uses a single 47 kW motor to drive both rear wheels instead of four in-wheel electric motors. The car has a top speed of 130 km/h

i MiEV is the third EV of MMC's MiEV series. Based on the i minicar platform, i MiEV replaces the conventional engine and fuel tank with a lithium-ion battery system, motor, inverter and other EV components in the rear-midship layout."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the I MiEV uses a single 47 kW motor to drive both rear wheels instead of four in-wheel electric motors. The car has a top speed of 130 km/h</p>
<p>i MiEV is the third EV of MMC&#8217;s MiEV series. Based on the i minicar platform, i MiEV replaces the conventional engine and fuel tank with a lithium-ion battery system, motor, inverter and other EV components in the rear-midship layout.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BluePeter</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57668</link>
		<dc:creator>BluePeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57668</guid>
		<description>New Zealand gets electric car trial

tinyurl.com/5wq8zo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Zealand gets electric car trial</p>
<p>tinyurl.com/5wq8zo</p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57664</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57664</guid>
		<description>And there was me trying to mock Winston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there was me trying to mock Winston.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57663</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57663</guid>
		<description>toad, Any quotation that comes to symbolize an iconic moment ceases to belong to its original author. It belongs to society. Thus frog is mocking an aspect of society, not Leary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>toad, Any quotation that comes to symbolize an iconic moment ceases to belong to its original author. It belongs to society. Thus frog is mocking an aspect of society, not Leary.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57658</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57658</guid>
		<description>Frog, I don't think the late Dr Timothy Leary should be mocked, even in parody, as your blog title does!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog, I don&#8217;t think the late Dr Timothy Leary should be mocked, even in parody, as your blog title does!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57649</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57649</guid>
		<description>Go Winny: the only party that questions the cost benefit of immigration (ie infrastructure goes on rates and developers and real estate agents make all the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Winny: the only party that questions the cost benefit of immigration (ie infrastructure goes on rates and developers and real estate agents make all the money.</p>
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		<title>By: haz</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57647</link>
		<dc:creator>haz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/16/peters-turn-off-tune-out-drop-out/#comment-57647</guid>
		<description>bob clarkson ~ 65 words ..lets see :
what day is pay day ?balls ! what day is pay day ? balls ! what day is pay day ?balls ! what day is pay day ? balls what day is pay day ? testicles what day is pay day ? balls what day is pay day ? testicles- oh bugger it i'm bored</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob clarkson ~ 65 words ..lets see :<br />
what day is pay day ?balls ! what day is pay day ? balls ! what day is pay day ?balls ! what day is pay day ? balls what day is pay day ? testicles what day is pay day ? balls what day is pay day ? testicles- oh bugger it i&#8217;m bored</p>
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