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	<title>Comments on: Better dressed gangs</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57969</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57969</guid>
		<description>its a plant gerrit, not a crime...(comprendez?)  -also its your party's own policy to legalise and regulate it.... 

We as a society need to grow up and let adults make an informed decision, in the same way i would not begrudge you with your single malt (even thoug my dad made us miserable night after night when i was young, because of his sly whisky habit)

why on earth would u wish an environmentalist and social justice advocate, and friend of the general green ethics to not do any good? A little bit bitter and twisted there, gerrit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its a plant gerrit, not a crime&#8230;(comprendez?)  -also its your party&#8217;s own policy to legalise and regulate it&#8230;. </p>
<p>We as a society need to grow up and let adults make an informed decision, in the same way i would not begrudge you with your single malt (even thoug my dad made us miserable night after night when i was young, because of his sly whisky habit)</p>
<p>why on earth would u wish an environmentalist and social justice advocate, and friend of the general green ethics to not do any good? A little bit bitter and twisted there, gerrit</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57832</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57832</guid>
		<description>weedeater,

A single issue political party will never get my vote, so dont count on it.

What you are implying is that as long as enough people break the law, that makes it OK as the consequences in having to lock up that many people is too large a law and order issue.

Interesting outlook.  Now if we were all to speed above the legal limit, that would make it OK as the numbers would be too great to, one catch, two convict and three punish.

Strange ethic you have. 

Be safe in your election campaign.  I sincerly hope you dont do any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weedeater,</p>
<p>A single issue political party will never get my vote, so dont count on it.</p>
<p>What you are implying is that as long as enough people break the law, that makes it OK as the consequences in having to lock up that many people is too large a law and order issue.</p>
<p>Interesting outlook.  Now if we were all to speed above the legal limit, that would make it OK as the numbers would be too great to, one catch, two convict and three punish.</p>
<p>Strange ethic you have. </p>
<p>Be safe in your election campaign.  I sincerly hope you dont do any good.</p>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57823</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57823</guid>
		<description>no one's talking about legal regulation of murder or hitting your kids ffs Gerrit. it is truely pathetic to see that silly straw man argument again on Frog Blog...

check out this one from ALCP and you might understand the rationale of 'single issue' reform a little better. Prohibition killed sgnt Wilkinson: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0809/S00171.htm

The law and disorder in NZ makes the counterproductive cannabis law an election issue for all Nz (as it has been ever MMP election), and the Greens expose themselves for criticism by not handling the jandle 

incidently, make pot seriously enforced Gerrit (black and white) and i hope you enjoy paying for the 800 new prisons to house the half million criminals...

p.s. i am standing for parliament. Auckland Central.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one&#8217;s talking about legal regulation of murder or hitting your kids ffs Gerrit. it is truely pathetic to see that silly straw man argument again on Frog Blog&#8230;</p>
<p>check out this one from ALCP and you might understand the rationale of &#8217;single issue&#8217; reform a little better. Prohibition killed sgnt Wilkinson: <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0809/S00171.htm" >http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0809/S00171.htm</a></p>
<p>The law and disorder in NZ makes the counterproductive cannabis law an election issue for all Nz (as it has been ever MMP election), and the Greens expose themselves for criticism by not handling the jandle </p>
<p>incidently, make pot seriously enforced Gerrit (black and white) and i hope you enjoy paying for the 800 new prisons to house the half million criminals&#8230;</p>
<p>p.s. i am standing for parliament. Auckland Central.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57819</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57819</guid>
		<description>weedeater,

your paranoia is getting to you.

I have made no comment on this posting except to ask if you ae philu son.

Still, if you think that if something is against the law (drunk driving, speeding, hitting your kids, murder, manufacturing P, growing weed, etc) is best controlled by regulation.  Go for it.  Put it to the voters.

I would rather see all crimes on the statue books enforced by prohibition and guilty offenders of the serious crimes being injected with one ounce of lead between the eye balls.

To me the LAW is black and white.  And ORDER is maintained by the rigourous enforcement thereoff.

The correct method to rectify laws you may disagree with is in the peoples parliament.  Not the flouting of current laws.

But hey, that is my positon. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;So why then is reform advocacy not on the Green campaign agenda? (puts on chicken suit and makes loud clucking noises….)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simply because it is not an issue that is highly relevant to a vast majority of people.  Only to weed wackers.

At last (and not before time) the Greens are getting pragmatic.  Might even get to see them up to 30% of the vote at this rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weedeater,</p>
<p>your paranoia is getting to you.</p>
<p>I have made no comment on this posting except to ask if you ae philu son.</p>
<p>Still, if you think that if something is against the law (drunk driving, speeding, hitting your kids, murder, manufacturing P, growing weed, etc) is best controlled by regulation.  Go for it.  Put it to the voters.</p>
<p>I would rather see all crimes on the statue books enforced by prohibition and guilty offenders of the serious crimes being injected with one ounce of lead between the eye balls.</p>
<p>To me the LAW is black and white.  And ORDER is maintained by the rigourous enforcement thereoff.</p>
<p>The correct method to rectify laws you may disagree with is in the peoples parliament.  Not the flouting of current laws.</p>
<p>But hey, that is my positon. </p>
<blockquote><p>So why then is reform advocacy not on the Green campaign agenda? (puts on chicken suit and makes loud clucking noises….)</p></blockquote>
<p>Simply because it is not an issue that is highly relevant to a vast majority of people.  Only to weed wackers.</p>
<p>At last (and not before time) the Greens are getting pragmatic.  Might even get to see them up to 30% of the vote at this rate.</p>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57815</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57815</guid>
		<description>no, you didnt say that, Gerrit but you made out you dont understand the concept (that regulation is way better than prohibiton)

which is a general problem of the greens because we can see from the other astute observations of pro-Green Party frogbloggers, that the Green Party leadership well understand that prohibition is causing crime and murder in NZ.

So why then is reform advocacy not on the Green campaign agenda? (puts on chicken suit and makes loud clucking noises....)

seriously, it is not a recommendation to voters like me who previously voted green, that your leadership is too feeble to take the cannabis law reform arguments to NZ,  even though LAW AND DISORDER is a Key election issue yet again.  shame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, you didnt say that, Gerrit but you made out you dont understand the concept (that regulation is way better than prohibiton)</p>
<p>which is a general problem of the greens because we can see from the other astute observations of pro-Green Party frogbloggers, that the Green Party leadership well understand that prohibition is causing crime and murder in NZ.</p>
<p>So why then is reform advocacy not on the Green campaign agenda? (puts on chicken suit and makes loud clucking noises&#8230;.)</p>
<p>seriously, it is not a recommendation to voters like me who previously voted green, that your leadership is too feeble to take the cannabis law reform arguments to NZ,  even though LAW AND DISORDER is a Key election issue yet again.  shame&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57812</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57812</guid>
		<description>weedeater,

you are becoming more like philu, confused and dazed.

Where did I say that?

If that is what weed does to you, I will stick to a good single malt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weedeater,</p>
<p>you are becoming more like philu, confused and dazed.</p>
<p>Where did I say that?</p>
<p>If that is what weed does to you, I will stick to a good single malt.</p>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57807</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57807</guid>
		<description>Gerrit - What part of "prohibition causes crime, but regulation is much, much better" do you not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerrit - What part of &#8220;prohibition causes crime, but regulation is much, much better&#8221; do you not understand?</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57711</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57711</guid>
		<description>Sorry folks, it was me who got BB onto the Zaoui bandwagon.

Wind him up and off he goes, just like a clockwork mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry folks, it was me who got BB onto the Zaoui bandwagon.</p>
<p>Wind him up and off he goes, just like a clockwork mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57704</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57704</guid>
		<description>Meghan

You are right about Mandela, he is also a convicted terrorist, the difference of course is that he is not a threat or potential threat to NZ.
Can I assume you would also open your arms to Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness seeing as you have no problem with those who have been convicted of terrorist crimes?

Mind you, I assume that as the man is now here he is working to pay back the money he took from the tax payer in legal fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meghan</p>
<p>You are right about Mandela, he is also a convicted terrorist, the difference of course is that he is not a threat or potential threat to NZ.<br />
Can I assume you would also open your arms to Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness seeing as you have no problem with those who have been convicted of terrorist crimes?</p>
<p>Mind you, I assume that as the man is now here he is working to pay back the money he took from the tax payer in legal fees.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57703</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/15/better-dressed-gangs/#comment-57703</guid>
		<description>come on bb..!

not zaoui..again..!

lets talk about your man/master of the universe/..key..

..whose main claim to fame/c.v..

..has just all turned to dust..

..leaving jhim standing in front of the rubble..

..with that sickly smile he so favours..

..going..'it wasn't me!'..

..and then of course there is that phd on the honesty of parties..and their election promises..

..and the biggest bunch of duplicitous/lying b*stards..

were the 96-99 national government..

..over 50% of their election promises were pure bullsh*t..

..and those same lying/duplicitous bast*rds..

..are those ones now standing/hiding beside/behind john key..

..going..'we aren't lying this time..!'..

can we talk about those relevant/current things..eh bb..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come on bb..!</p>
<p>not zaoui..again..!</p>
<p>lets talk about your man/master of the universe/..key..</p>
<p>..whose main claim to fame/c.v..</p>
<p>..has just all turned to dust..</p>
<p>..leaving jhim standing in front of the rubble..</p>
<p>..with that sickly smile he so favours..</p>
<p>..going..&#8217;it wasn&#8217;t me!&#8217;..</p>
<p>..and then of course there is that phd on the honesty of parties..and their election promises..</p>
<p>..and the biggest bunch of duplicitous/lying b*stards..</p>
<p>were the 96-99 national government..</p>
<p>..over 50% of their election promises were pure bullsh*t..</p>
<p>..and those same lying/duplicitous bast*rds..</p>
<p>..are those ones now standing/hiding beside/behind john key..</p>
<p>..going..&#8217;we aren&#8217;t lying this time..!&#8217;..</p>
<p>can we talk about those relevant/current things..eh bb..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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