White, capitalist culture is not respected by everybody.”

I certainly have a healthy disrespect for it!

“There is indeed a large group of people who want New Zealands financial systems to decay.”

That’s the part that is bull. The two things are not related in the way you assume they are.

The rest of your post is too absurd to comment on

…with your anti-roads policy and your pro-ETS views that atmosphere gets closer every day.

Have you noticed how many businesses/manufacturers are heading overseas??

There is indeed a large group of people who want New Zealands financial systems to decay.

White, capitalist culture is not respected by everybody.

The Green party is infused with dopeheads who have no respect for cannabis law, and I’m sure there are many others with little respect for law and the structures within our society and who would like nothing better than for our businesses to collapse and see NZ retreat to a village atmosphere.

There is a significant difference between paying one’s way, and on the other hand, claiming ‘human rights’.

In my experience those who claim there is in fact such a thing as ‘human rights’ fail to see that their ‘rights’ are paid for by the efforts of others. Instead of showing gratitude for these benefits, such people see wealthy, productive citizens as parasites. Ironic.

If the Nats get into power at this election it will be because a significant number of New Zealanders have caught onto the idea that the dopers, no-hopers and general beneficiaries are in danger of outweighing the productive sector, and bankruptcy is a short step away.

Valis says: Labour understands way more and has some very good people, but has ignored the environment completely until the current term entirely for political reasons….because they also are closer to Green policy on social issues, it is simply a more natural fit.

Many of us in the electorate believe that ’social issues’ are becoming less affordable because we are heading toward bankruptcy as a nation, and that whichever party/parties we elect must focus on increasing income for the country as a whole.

I guess that means increasing business variety, affordability and productivity and also reducing fiscal waste.

If Labour did nothing for the environment, and also got us to this position of declining wealth, why is there a natural fit with them?

Why not a natural fit with a party that wants to grow wealth?

Or is there an undercurrent of WANTING the country to head for bankruptcy? Is there some perception that NZ will be a better place when all we can afford to do is lie on a beach in the sun??

I find it hard to believe that Nationals silence is through a lack of policy (as some claim). But then I could be wrong.

We will see what the next few weeks bring.

“Yes the Greens should be ‘the pox on both’ of them, prepared to be in government with either to assist them towards workable sustainable environmental legislation. The further they are from the correct path the more reason to be with them to guide them to ’see the (green) light’”

We are ready to work with either, but you probably mean in coalition, which is a different matter (insert big bro’s false claims that the Greens have said they’d consider coalition with the Nats here). I’ve sometimes wondered what the Greens would do if the Nats really did make a good offer on environmental policy, but the likelihood is extremely low because their constituency really doesn’t understand and they truly don’t have a clue either, e.g. Nick Smith is the best they can offer. I have spoken to senior Nats who have admitted that even talking about the environment as an issue gets them into trouble, so they have no real incentive to get into the detail and every motivation to go the opposite direction. It is of course possible that they will eventually catch on as these issues become to big to ignore, but I’ll wager it won’t be enough for the Greens this election.

Labour understands way more and has some very good people, but has ignored the environment completely until the current term entirely for political reasons. But they are easier to work with once they accept that something needs to be done. And because they also are closer to Green policy on social issues, it is simply a more natural fit.