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	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55867</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/pugwash.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;was a cabin boy&lt;/a&gt;, but his name was Tom.</description>
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<p>There <a href="http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/pugwash.asp" rel="nofollow">was a cabin boy</a>, but his name was Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucolic Old Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55863</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucolic Old Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean they aren&#039;t?

Bugger.</description>
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<p>You mean they aren&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Bugger.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55855</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, bigbluekiwi - you might want to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1421exposed.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check this out&lt;/a&gt;.  

Menzies was a wingnutted charletan with no scientific credibilty whatsoever (and he even lied about where he was born in his first book). 

This stuff&#039;s been well and truly debunked, but unfortunately has somehow found its way into the folklore.  It&#039;s got about the same level of credibility as Seaman Staines and Roger the Cabin Boy being characters in Captain Pugwash.</description>
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<p>Yep, bigbluekiwi &#8211; you might want to <a href="http://www.1421exposed.com/" rel="nofollow">check this out</a>.  </p>
<p>Menzies was a wingnutted charletan with no scientific credibilty whatsoever (and he even lied about where he was born in his first book). </p>
<p>This stuff&#8217;s been well and truly debunked, but unfortunately has somehow found its way into the folklore.  It&#8217;s got about the same level of credibility as Seaman Staines and Roger the Cabin Boy being characters in Captain Pugwash.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55853</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many &#039;salt of the earth, call a spade a bloody spade&#039; people living around the Murray Darling river are citing the Medieval Warming Period as evidence that there&#039;s nuttin&#039; goin&#039; on around here?</description>
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<p>I wonder how many &#8216;salt of the earth, call a spade a bloody spade&#8217; people living around the Murray Darling river are citing the Medieval Warming Period as evidence that there&#8217;s nuttin&#8217; goin&#8217; on around here?</p>
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		<title>By: Bucolic Old Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55850</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucolic Old Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you quote Gavin Menzies&#039; &quot;work&quot; as evidence, you&#039;re just making yourself look foolish.</description>
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<p>And if you quote Gavin Menzies&#8217; &#8220;work&#8221; as evidence, you&#8217;re just making yourself look foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: bigblukiwi</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55842</link>
		<dc:creator>bigblukiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong interpretation of &#039;recorded history&#039;. The Chinese sailed around this route in the 1420&#039;s - according to  &#039;How the Chinese Discovered the World&#039;. 

Was this the Mediaeval Warm Period&#039; ?</description>
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<p>Wrong interpretation of &#8216;recorded history&#8217;. The Chinese sailed around this route in the 1420&#8242;s &#8211; according to  &#8216;How the Chinese Discovered the World&#8217;. </p>
<p>Was this the Mediaeval Warm Period&#8217; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bucolic Old Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/09/01/the-island/#comment-55663</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucolic Old Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The image actually comes from the University of Bremen &lt;a href=&quot;http://iup.physik.uni-bremen.de:8084/amsr/amsre.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. We&#039;ll know whether there&#039;s a new record minimum in the next few weeks, but even if there isn&#039;t, it will be fascinating to watch the northern hemisphere weather this winter. As the ocean freezes over it loses a lot of heat to the atmosphere - and that impacts weather and weather patterns.

Can you say &quot;rapid climate change&quot;?

(Much more at &lt;a href=&quot;http://hot-topic.co.nz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HT&lt;/a&gt;, of course).</description>
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<p>The image actually comes from the University of Bremen <a href="http://iup.physik.uni-bremen.de:8084/amsr/amsre.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. We&#8217;ll know whether there&#8217;s a new record minimum in the next few weeks, but even if there isn&#8217;t, it will be fascinating to watch the northern hemisphere weather this winter. As the ocean freezes over it loses a lot of heat to the atmosphere &#8211; and that impacts weather and weather patterns.</p>
<p>Can you say &#8220;rapid climate change&#8221;?</p>
<p>(Much more at <a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">HT</a>, of course).</p>
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