Bated breath !

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The Bill is likely to go through committee stages in the House today so tune in to hear all the good and bad details about the bill then.

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bbk,

I suspect this is but one example of why the Greens (who decided to support the emissions Trading Scheme “on balance”) took such a careful look at what that “balance” would involve, and why.

Human decisions based on compromise can be (appear to be?) very STUPID in some ways …

Hopefully frog et al will also give us some threads/information that involve/demonstrate the “not-so-stupid” aspects of the ETS!

(ie we’d like to see it in black, the white, and the various shades of grey!)

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This is the kind of horse trading that is so abhorant and comes about when principle is cast overboard for short term political gain. The reasoning that was apparently used to justify it frankly stinks. Because other industries haven’t been given concessions which are ‘as bad’ then it’s OK to give this small concession to the fishing industry. Give me a break !

If the logic is that foreign boats don’t pay a carbon charge and therefore get cheaper fuel, the answer surely is to insist they do through International Treaty Obligations & if they still don’t then to make sure they pay NZ by imposing zones where they pay – to us. If the fish is ours by agreement with other nations (Territorial waters) then we can surely regulate who fishes them and under what tax regime.

I’m reconsidering where my vote goes come November.

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Winnie the Poop’s way of thanking Simunovich and the Vela brothers, I suspect?

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> “As it turns out peak oil could well curtail fishing companies sooner than a carbon charge would anyway.�

> Why would peak oil do such a thing?

because fishing boats are going further out and fishing in deeper waters than they did before cheap oil?

There aren’t as many fish to catch close to the shore as there used to be, because they’ve been depleted by overfishing.

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“As it turns out peak oil could well curtail fishing companies sooner than a carbon charge would anyway.”

Why would peak oil do such a thing? You had fishing long before you had oil powered vessels, what the fishing vessels of old used sails; they used steam. Why do you automatically think that peak oil will cause such chaos? For crying out loud, it will just take us back to the 1930s, and aside from the Great Depression, the 1930s was not that bad.

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