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	<title>Comments on: Animal magnetism</title>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-55178</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen - that&#039;s a very interesting observation - cattle wallows! Who&#039;ve thought it? Do they wallow in India, where they are free to roam? On an intensively farmed dairy unit with 2000 cows, how big would that wallow have to be?</description>
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<p>Owen &#8211; that&#8217;s a very interesting observation &#8211; cattle wallows! Who&#8217;ve thought it? Do they wallow in India, where they are free to roam? On an intensively farmed dairy unit with 2000 cows, how big would that wallow have to be?</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54909</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, if I was negotiating for the Greens, I would have taken a billion dollars extra for public transport over 10 years and excluded pastoral grassland farming from ETS. And yes I would also call for a review of the inclusion of pastoral grassland farming exports from Kyoto - why should we be blamed for the global consumer appetite for our food?</description>
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<p>Personally, if I was negotiating for the Greens, I would have taken a billion dollars extra for public transport over 10 years and excluded pastoral grassland farming from ETS. And yes I would also call for a review of the inclusion of pastoral grassland farming exports from Kyoto &#8211; why should we be blamed for the global consumer appetite for our food?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54908</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another matter.
Cattle love wetlands–  just like African elephants and buffalo.

So if we are going to fence them away from streams and estuaries (and I agree we should provided we realise we then have to manage the mangroves which the cows normally manage for us) then should we not encourage farmers to provide large dams and so on with big wet areas for the cows to play in – just as I provide dust baths for my chickens.

At present no one seems to care about the wellbeing of the cows.</description>
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<p>On another matter.<br />
Cattle love wetlands–  just like African elephants and buffalo.</p>
<p>So if we are going to fence them away from streams and estuaries (and I agree we should provided we realise we then have to manage the mangroves which the cows normally manage for us) then should we not encourage farmers to provide large dams and so on with big wet areas for the cows to play in – just as I provide dust baths for my chickens.</p>
<p>At present no one seems to care about the wellbeing of the cows.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54906</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the group of cattle reminded me of the following statistics:

New Zealand total cattle population – 9 million.

India total cattle population – 200 million cows plus 90 million buffalo.

The amount of methane emitted by a cow for kilo depends on the quality of the genetic stock and the quality of the feed. We are tops in both.

So my guess is that NZ cattle emit about 1% of the methane emitted by cattle in India.

And our perennial pastures are carbon sinks. All those Europeans should be paying us Kyoto credits.</description>
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<p>Looking at the group of cattle reminded me of the following statistics:</p>
<p>New Zealand total cattle population – 9 million.</p>
<p>India total cattle population – 200 million cows plus 90 million buffalo.</p>
<p>The amount of methane emitted by a cow for kilo depends on the quality of the genetic stock and the quality of the feed. We are tops in both.</p>
<p>So my guess is that NZ cattle emit about 1% of the methane emitted by cattle in India.</p>
<p>And our perennial pastures are carbon sinks. All those Europeans should be paying us Kyoto credits.</p>
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		<title>By: greengeek</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54905</link>
		<dc:creator>greengeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will find that the animals change their direction of grazing at night.

During the day they prefer to have their sides (their largest part) facing the sun, which leaves their heads pointing along a north/south axis.</description>
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<p>You will find that the animals change their direction of grazing at night.</p>
<p>During the day they prefer to have their sides (their largest part) facing the sun, which leaves their heads pointing along a north/south axis.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54878</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. and it&#039;s strait, not straight! Sheep should live in dry, rocky mountainous areas, not on lush lowland paddocks. It&#039;s interesting to watch them climb up onto any pile of spoil left in a flat paddock, especially the lambs. They want to be able to see the world! Baaa, raaam, uuuuuu!</description>
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<p>Hmm.. and it&#8217;s strait, not straight! Sheep should live in dry, rocky mountainous areas, not on lush lowland paddocks. It&#8217;s interesting to watch them climb up onto any pile of spoil left in a flat paddock, especially the lambs. They want to be able to see the world! Baaa, raaam, uuuuuu!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Dennis</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54874</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that was such an interesting story before you ruined it! :)</description>
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<p>Oh, that was such an interesting story before you ruined it! <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54873</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(unless you spend your time planning an escape)&quot;

Perhaps an &lt;i&gt; especially &lt;/i&gt; clever sheep.</description>
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<p>&#8220;(unless you spend your time planning an escape)&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps an <i> especially </i> clever sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54871</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(the DC3 wasn&#039;t dropping seals and penguins - you knew that) :-)</description>
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<p>(the DC3 wasn&#8217;t dropping seals and penguins &#8211; you knew that) <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54870</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Mr Dennis - the Perrindales I was sent out to muster on the steep slopes of D&#039;Urville Island completely outwitted me at every turn. Mind you, they had a far more stimulating life than the average &#039;paddock sheep&#039;, with views of the straight, orca swimming by, DC3&#039;s overhead dropping super, seals, penguins etc. Life inside a rye grass square must be very dull (unless you spend your time planning an escape) :-)</description>
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<p>Agreed Mr Dennis &#8211; the Perrindales I was sent out to muster on the steep slopes of D&#8217;Urville Island completely outwitted me at every turn. Mind you, they had a far more stimulating life than the average &#8216;paddock sheep&#8217;, with views of the straight, orca swimming by, DC3&#8242;s overhead dropping super, seals, penguins etc. Life inside a rye grass square must be very dull (unless you spend your time planning an escape) <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mr Dennis</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54869</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheep are much more clever than most people give them credit for actually.</description>
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<p>Sheep are much more clever than most people give them credit for actually.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54864</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clever sheep (!) would graze with its head toward the wind and take advantage of the way the grass blades bend toward its mouth. A clever farmer would plant shelter trees so that there would be no winds bending grass this way or that, but would instead stand upright in an easy-to-nibble way. A very clever sheep would chose a clever farmer.</description>
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<p>A clever sheep (!) would graze with its head toward the wind and take advantage of the way the grass blades bend toward its mouth. A clever farmer would plant shelter trees so that there would be no winds bending grass this way or that, but would instead stand upright in an easy-to-nibble way. A very clever sheep would chose a clever farmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Dennis</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54862</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. In my experience sheep at least tend to mainly face downwind, not north/south. This shelters their head while grazing.</description>
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<p>Interesting. In my experience sheep at least tend to mainly face downwind, not north/south. This shelters their head while grazing.</p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54856</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for pointing out the spelling mistake.</description>
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<p>thanks for pointing out the spelling mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/27/animal-magnatism/#comment-54851</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strangely interesting, and sounds like a better Google earth use than finding crop circles.

Spelling error in the title of the post.</description>
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<p>Strangely interesting, and sounds like a better Google earth use than finding crop circles.</p>
<p>Spelling error in the title of the post.</p>
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