The silent majority

I see Peter Dunne reckons he is here for the silent majority. I’m not sure they’re here for him?  I really feel sorry for the silent majority the way everyone presumes to speak on their behalf.

“Our pledge is to bring their voice to the government’s table, and to make sure it is reflected in the government’s decisions,” Mr Dunne said.

Oh well, if Dunne gets it wrong at least he can safely know the silent majority he claims to represent won’t be complaining about it.

Incidentally the term silent majority was popularised by Richard Nixon as a way of responding to the vocal criticisms of his Vietnam war policies by peace activists - to argue that lots of people supported his war, they were just being a little bit quiet about it.

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42 Responses to “The silent majority”

  1. big bro Says:

    The only think I want to hear from this sanctimonious git is that he has paid back the money he stole from me at the last election.

    Why do the media give him such a free ride?

  2. StephenR Says:

    Did you mean “silent minority” up there frog? methinks not..

  3. toad Says:

    Tricky Dick, trying to look slick! Yeah, a great role model for Peter Dunhill.

  4. frog Says:

    Thanks StephenR - I’ve fixed it now.

  5. phil u Says:

    frog..why have you pulled/censored(?) that thread written by sue..

    ..with 260 comments on it..?

    (is that part of your ongoing ’sanitising’..)

    (better pull that alternative spech i wrote to the ‘official’ version..eh..?

    ..don’t want the record to show anyone ‘embarrassed’..eh..?..)

    i mean..forget accuracy/clear records of what is said..etc..eh..?

    could you do those who built that thread of 260 + the basic courtesy of telling us why you have pulled/censored it..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  6. samiam Says:

    Does he mean the silent majority with lousy hairdo’s?
    He’s the man!

  7. phil u Says:

    and..does such a cavalier attitude to censorship..

    ..make anyone else as spooked/queasy as it does me..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  8. phil u Says:

    what sort of weird control-freak mentality does that demonstrate..?

    i am gobsmacked..!

    ..y’know..at deaths door in the polls..

    ..but hey..!..we’re onto it with censoring the likes of philu on frogblog..

    eh..?

    sad..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  9. frog Says:

    phil u - I haven’t pulled/censored anything. It’s still there and now up to 308 comments which is good evidence it hasn’t been censored. Try refreshing your browser?

  10. phil u Says:

    apologies..!

    i went back three pages..couldn’t findit..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  11. toad Says:

    You really need to manage your blogging better then Phil - you know, save links you might want to go to later to a folder or something.

    Bleating on a totally unrelated thread about something being censored when it has not, and the only reason you could not find it is your own incompetence, is not a good look.

    Anyway - back to topic. Comments on this thread should have some (even vague) relevance to Peter Dunne or Richard Nixon.

    If you perceive a potential problem re either the techical aspects of the blog or censorship on it, then email frogblog@greens.org.nz as most of the rest of us do.

  12. phil u Says:

    toad..you really do need to get over yourself..

    ..eh..?

    did you miss out on the hall monitor job..at school..?

    been a bit bitter about it ever since..?

    seek powerless titles…?

    ..like ‘executive member’..?

    ..phil(whoar.co.nz)

  13. toad Says:

    You’re the one who bleated on this thread about censorship that didn’t happen Phil. Because you couldn’t be bothered searching for a thread that was still there but you couldn’t find. Maybe you should just have another dak!

    And what’s more, you have now again threadjacked this thread after I tried following your earlier irrelevant post to get it back onto issues related to Peter Dunne and Richard Nixon (where it started).

    You just have to seize yet another opportunity to spit the dummy don’t you, because you cannot accept it was you who made the initial mistake.

  14. big bro Says:

    Wow….all is not well inside camp Green!…..lol

  15. phil u Says:

    all is not well inside toad..

    he’s getting a bit obsessed..

    and he’s having a wee meltdown..

    get a grip.!..toad..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  16. phil u Says:

    and how about that dunne..?..eh..?

    and that nixon..?..

    eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  17. big bro Says:

    Phil

    I like Toad, he is my favourite Commie, he is also prepared to debate an issue and I also suspect he would be a reasonable enough chap to have a beer with even though his politics are all wrong.

    If anybody is getting obsessed and having a “wee meltdown” it is not Toad.

  18. toad Says:

    BB, Phil has been on the outside of the Green tent pissing in for several years now. “Behavioural problems”, I understand, as I mentioned a few days ago, although maybe not on this blog.

  19. dad4justice Says:

    Phil is in permanent meltdown mode. Must be hanging for a fix?

  20. big bro Says:

    Toad

    ““Behavioural problemsâ€?, I understand”

    And he still reckons that dope is not a health risk!

  21. phil u Says:

    toad..!

    why don’t you and big bro bow to the inevitable..?

    ..and ‘get a room’..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    and look..!..

    toad and his (new) rightie beer-buddies..are playing tag..

  22. phil u Says:

    you forgot ‘bad attitude’..

    (heh..!..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  23. eredwen Says:

    phil and toad,

    That’s enough!

    Don’t talk to (or about) each other “if you can’t be nice!”

    “Nanny”

  24. big bro Says:

    eredwen

    Whats next?…..the walls have ears!

  25. phil u Says:

    toad keeps ’starting it’..

    ever since i totally dealt to/humiliated/made a figure of fun of him..

    ..over at kiwiblog..

    several times..

    he’s been stalking me..

    throwing ad hominems..

    make him stop..!

    he’s reaching the annoyance level of a single sandfly..

    can he do nothing ‘well’..?

    that toad..?

    except toady..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  26. dad4justice Says:

    “he’s been stalking me..”

    I am now convinced phil has a paranoid fixation due to long term substance abuse .

  27. phil u Says:

    and your excuse..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  28. dad4justice Says:

    Goodnight phil, I think you are a tragic case and I feel sorry for you.

  29. phil u Says:

    you don’t ’sleep well’..

    do you d4j..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  30. georgedarroch Says:

    Oh, god. This thread is yet another Ph…i…l u…? and d4j bigbro yakfest. Seriously, it becomes pretty hard to say anything when 4-5 people are filling up the threads.

    Toad, if someone is consistently disruptive, caution them, then I apply sanctions. Generally this happens in real life (I’m the person who tells someone they’re out of line, and often have 10 people come up to me later and thank me for doing so), but there’s a time for it online too. Perhaps a few weeks breathing space?

  31. toad Says:

    Hey George, I’m just a punter here too, not the moderator.

    But I did notice a post from “frogmaster” this morning advising d4j was on a warning and subsequent indiscretions could see his commenting rights suspended. I suspect Philu can’t be far behind.

  32. phil u Says:

    here is a comment on thr rightwingness of toad..at kiwiblog..

    just a few minutes ago..

    “..# RRM (879) Add karma Subtract karma +0 Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Toad! I wouldn’t have picked you for one of the
    “I’ve-paid-for-the-right-to-watch-(XYZ)-on-Sky-and-all-free-to-air -viewers-are-bludgers-living-off-my-hard-workâ€? type theorists!.”

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  33. phil u Says:

    gee george..

    very ‘green’ of you there..!

    with those censorship desires..

    eh..?

    wither free speech ..?.eh..?

    an ‘inconvenience’ is it..?

    shut it down for ‘a few weeks’..eh..?

    at/on your whim..?

    as i said..

    very ‘green’..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  34. phil u Says:

    btw..george..

    are you able to point us at anything vaguely interesting you may have written..?..done..?

    over the years..?

    except whine..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  35. toad Says:

    I’m counselled to not respond to Phil. So I won’t, other than to link to my post on Key wee-blog that he quoted a response to.

    Up to the punters here to make up you minds if this is the “rightwingness of toad”.

  36. phil u Says:

    “..(I’m the person who tells someone they’re out of line, and often have 10 people come up to me later and thank me for doing so)…”

    gee..!..george darroch..

    ‘often’..eh..?

    in your dreams..!..eh..?

    i see you and toad (obviously) share those (repressed) hall monitor desires..

    (psstt..!..stand for exec..!..

    ..you’ll feel ‘very important’..

    ..and will be able to ‘discuss things’..)

    you might even get to climb the slippery pole to blogmaster..eh..?

    crikey..!..then there’d be some ’shut downs for a few weeks’..eh..?

    (do your palms get clammy when you dream/drool of such ‘power’..?..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  37. Shunda barunda Says:

    Toad if you don’t want to talk to philu come and discuss trees on the other thread, at least I won’t call you names………..much!

  38. phil u Says:

    yes toad..if you wish to disengage from me..

    stop popping up with yr random ad hominems..

    ..both here..and at kiwiblog..

    ..you keep popping up those ad hominems..

    (and that’s all they are..as a standard of debate..they are pretty pathetic..

    ..but i guess that’s all you are able to do..so be it..)

    ..i’ll keep on dancing all over you..

    your call..!

    eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  39. georgedarroch Says:

    Phil, of the 38 comments in this thread, 16 are yours. That’s nearly half.

  40. phil u Says:

    have a word with toad..eh..?

    if you think i will just take ad hominems..

    .and not answer them..?

    think again..

    i’ve got a bit of history in the greens of that..eh george..?

    oft-circulated ad hominems..?..that become ‘fact’..eh..?

    for ‘bad attitude’…and all that..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    btw..still waiting for you to point me at anything of any merit you may have written/done..?

  41. Sapient Says:

    Phil, His poking fun at you only becomes an ad hominem if he uses it as the basis for an arguement. From what ive seen his arguements seem to, for the most part, stand separate from the phil baiting.

  42. andrew Says:

    this is probably what the silent majority are up to, & why they can’t be heard expressing their views on politics..

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