Comments on: Getting ready for the Olympics http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/ hopping along the corridors of power Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:44:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51826 StephenR Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:59:03 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51826 whats your point? whats your point?

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]]> By: Don http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51825 Don Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:47:43 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51825 It must be hard for the Chinese government. Should they follow the Wests advice, as the Soviet Union did, and become as nice and successful as Russia and the Balkans? Should they emulate Washington's regard for human rights and label their detractors "Illegal enemy combatants", lock them away, deny them lawyers and trials and not even tell anyone they have been arrested? Get out of Tibet and into a country with Oil? "no reason you cant make a blog and write about them, or human rights abuses in south korea, or zimbabwe or sudan or anywhere else." Quite right - it is not as if China will kidnap you and send to to be tortured in Uzbekistan. "A June 2006 report from the Council of Europe estimated 100 people had been kidnapped by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on EU territory and rendered to other countries, often after having transited through secret detention centers ("black sites") used by the CIA in cooperation with other governments. According to the European Parliament report of February 2007, the CIA has conducted 1,245 flights, many of them to destinations where suspects could face torture, in violation of article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture. " It must be hard for the Chinese government. Should they follow the Wests advice, as the Soviet Union did, and become as nice and successful as Russia and the Balkans? Should they emulate Washington’s regard for human rights and label their detractors “Illegal enemy combatants”, lock them away, deny them lawyers and trials and not even tell anyone they have been arrested? Get out of Tibet and into a country with Oil?

“no reason you cant make a blog and write about them, or human rights abuses in south korea, or zimbabwe or sudan or anywhere else.”

Quite right – it is not as if China will kidnap you and send to to be tortured in Uzbekistan.

“A June 2006 report from the Council of Europe estimated 100 people had been kidnapped by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on EU territory and rendered to other countries, often after having transited through secret detention centers (“black sites”) used by the CIA in cooperation with other governments. According to the European Parliament report of February 2007, the CIA has conducted 1,245 flights, many of them to destinations where suspects could face torture, in violation of article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture. “

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51681 StephenR Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:56:52 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51681 Might have to be realistic - are there better, more useful Bills to table out there? I would say so. Not sure if you can ask for a symbolic parliamentary resolution, maybe that would be something...for the opposition anyway. Might have to be realistic – are there better, more useful Bills to table out there? I would say so. Not sure if you can ask for a symbolic parliamentary resolution, maybe that would be something…for the opposition anyway.

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]]> By: Mr Dennis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51666 Mr Dennis Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:58:29 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51666 That may have been a bit harsh, no offence meant. But the point about the effectiveness of protest vs actual action is valid. Are the Greens going to do anything about it in parliament? Or are they only going to protest outside? That may have been a bit harsh, no offence meant. But the point about the effectiveness of protest vs actual action is valid. Are the Greens going to do anything about it in parliament? Or are they only going to protest outside?

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]]> By: Ari http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51651 Ari Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:25:02 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51651 Mr Dennis, you clearly do not know Mr. Locke if you think he's the type to score cheap political points on human rights. They are central to his entire political career. Mr Dennis, you clearly do not know Mr. Locke if you think he’s the type to score cheap political points on human rights. They are central to his entire political career.

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]]> By: Mr Dennis http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51648 Mr Dennis Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:13:25 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51648 Protesting is all well and good, but it really doesn't achieve much. Are the Greens going to ask for a motion in Parliament to boycott the Games, withdraw from our Free Trade agreement or something else serious as a result? No? Then Mr Locke is just trying to score cheap political points. Protesting is all well and good, but it really doesn’t achieve much. Are the Greens going to ask for a motion in Parliament to boycott the Games, withdraw from our Free Trade agreement or something else serious as a result?

No?

Then Mr Locke is just trying to score cheap political points.

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]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51647 StephenR Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:10:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51647 Do North Korea, but unlikely the North Koreans are going to know about it, and unlikely a regime that prefers external links with a tiny handful of dictatorships is really going to give a damn either. Certainly remind people what Liu Jingmin said, good stuff. Do North Korea, but unlikely the North Koreans are going to know about it, and unlikely a regime that prefers external links with a tiny handful of dictatorships is really going to give a damn either.

Certainly remind people what Liu Jingmin said, good stuff.

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]]> By: haz http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51646 haz Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:06:31 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51646 yes its interesting how people always inquire when SOMEONE ELSE is going to protest about an issue - if you're so concerned - john-ston , why don't YOU do something ? yes its interesting how people always inquire when SOMEONE ELSE is going to protest about an issue – if you’re so concerned – john-ston , why don’t YOU do something ?

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]]> By: treesoftomorrow http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51625 treesoftomorrow Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:28:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51625 no reason you cant make a blog and write about them, or human rights abuses in south korea, or zimbabwe or sudan or anywhere else. no reason you cant make a blog and write about them, or human rights abuses in south korea, or zimbabwe or sudan or anywhere else.

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]]> By: john-ston http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51608 john-ston Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:56:46 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/08/04/getting-ready-for-the-olympics/#comment-51608 Well done on highlighting the human rights abuses of the PRC; when are we going to hear about the human rights abuses of North Korea? Well done on highlighting the human rights abuses of the PRC; when are we going to hear about the human rights abuses of North Korea?

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