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	<title>Comments on: The BBC bee vs the National Geographic spider</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51454</link>
		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51454</guid>
		<description>Completely agree with forestgreen.  Would like to point out the 8-part series "What Lies Beneath" - an archeological look at New Zealand, co-produced with TVNZ.  You can find it in their "people" catalog: http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with forestgreen.  Would like to point out the 8-part series &#8220;What Lies Beneath&#8221; - an archeological look at New Zealand, co-produced with TVNZ.  You can find it in their &#8220;people&#8221; catalog: <a href="http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html" >http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51247</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51247</guid>
		<description>Thanks forestgreen for that background.  I have to admit my comments on NHNZ were drawn from foggy memory and I should have checked it's current status first before drawing it into the post.  It would be great to have a charter that allowed more of its work to be on air here in NZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks forestgreen for that background.  I have to admit my comments on NHNZ were drawn from foggy memory and I should have checked it&#8217;s current status first before drawing it into the post.  It would be great to have a charter that allowed more of its work to be on air here in NZ.</p>
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		<title>By: forestgreen</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51235</link>
		<dc:creator>forestgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51235</guid>
		<description>NHNZ haven't been part of TVNZ for over a decade, since Fox Studios bought it (read: rescued it from closure) in 1997.   Kiwis are unlikely to have seen anything free-to-air out of NHNZ for years.  It's almost only ever on Sky (especially Discovery or NatGeo) or very recently TVNZ6 on Freeview.

Where they 'fit on the spectrum' is where there's a market.  Most of their productions are for the US, but they get into Japan, Europe and increasingly China and Singapore.  They make everything from top shelf productions like the 'Equator' and 'Wild Asia' series to populist stuff like 'Megastructures' and 'Most Extreme.'

Still based in Dunedin, NHNZ employs heaps of Kiwi talent.  If whatever Government we've got by the end of the year sorted out decent funding for 'Charter' programming, maybe there'll be budget to get NHNZ into local docos again....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NHNZ haven&#8217;t been part of TVNZ for over a decade, since Fox Studios bought it (read: rescued it from closure) in 1997.   Kiwis are unlikely to have seen anything free-to-air out of NHNZ for years.  It&#8217;s almost only ever on Sky (especially Discovery or NatGeo) or very recently TVNZ6 on Freeview.</p>
<p>Where they &#8216;fit on the spectrum&#8217; is where there&#8217;s a market.  Most of their productions are for the US, but they get into Japan, Europe and increasingly China and Singapore.  They make everything from top shelf productions like the &#8216;Equator&#8217; and &#8216;Wild Asia&#8217; series to populist stuff like &#8216;Megastructures&#8217; and &#8216;Most Extreme.&#8217;</p>
<p>Still based in Dunedin, NHNZ employs heaps of Kiwi talent.  If whatever Government we&#8217;ve got by the end of the year sorted out decent funding for &#8216;Charter&#8217; programming, maybe there&#8217;ll be budget to get NHNZ into local docos again&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51191</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51191</guid>
		<description>I was watching the BBC's The Blue World last night and thought Attenborough was totally prejudiced against orca, referring to them as 'killer' whales and presenting their hard, well-organised and cooperative work to get lunch out of a grey whale calf as an 'attack', then moaning about them only eating the tongue and lower jaw. 

I think he's just jealous because orca are cooler and prettier than he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching the BBC&#8217;s The Blue World last night and thought Attenborough was totally prejudiced against orca, referring to them as &#8216;killer&#8217; whales and presenting their hard, well-organised and cooperative work to get lunch out of a grey whale calf as an &#8216;attack&#8217;, then moaning about them only eating the tongue and lower jaw. </p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s just jealous because orca are cooler and prettier than he is.</p>
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		<title>By: ZippyGonzales</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51189</link>
		<dc:creator>ZippyGonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51189</guid>
		<description>Animal fights. Meh. Prefer Spiders on Drugs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animal fights. Meh. Prefer Spiders on Drugs:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc</a></p>
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		<title>By: lyndon</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51179</link>
		<dc:creator>lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51179</guid>
		<description>The show was "Animal Face Off" which, to link back to frog's question, was made by NHNZ (http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_nature.html).

I assumed it might have been based on the wealth of antipodean accents in the ones I saw. They've kinda moved on from Wild South and so on.

There's one where a crocodile beat a lion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show was &#8220;Animal Face Off&#8221; which, to link back to frog&#8217;s question, was made by NHNZ (http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_nature.html).</p>
<p>I assumed it might have been based on the wealth of antipodean accents in the ones I saw. They&#8217;ve kinda moved on from Wild South and so on.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one where a crocodile beat a lion.</p>
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		<title>By: ZippyGonzales</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51178</link>
		<dc:creator>ZippyGonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51178</guid>
		<description>Interesting contrast in docos. Love it. The NHU was definitely closer to the Beeb version. I'd say NHNZ has followed in their footsteps. Jeremy Wells still lampoons Sir Kenneth's Landmarks style in TUHONZ to great effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting contrast in docos. Love it. The NHU was definitely closer to the Beeb version. I&#8217;d say NHNZ has followed in their footsteps. Jeremy Wells still lampoons Sir Kenneth&#8217;s Landmarks style in TUHONZ to great effect.</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51173</link>
		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51173</guid>
		<description>A bit like Helen vs John, but better looking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit like Helen vs John, but better looking!</p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51166</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51166</guid>
		<description>There is/was a show on one of the SKY channels (maybe Nat Geo, heh) that simulated unlikely animal showdowns, like a Tiger vs a lion, shark vs...a gorilla or something. But a real leopard vs a real croc - woah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is/was a show on one of the SKY channels (maybe Nat Geo, heh) that simulated unlikely animal showdowns, like a Tiger vs a lion, shark vs&#8230;a gorilla or something. But a real leopard vs a real croc - woah!</p>
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