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	<title>Comments on: The BBC bee vs the National Geographic spider</title>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51454</link>
		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with forestgreen.  Would like to point out the 8-part series &quot;What Lies Beneath&quot; - an archeological look at New Zealand, co-produced with TVNZ.  You can find it in their &quot;people&quot; catalog: http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html</description>
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<p>Completely agree with forestgreen.  Would like to point out the 8-part series &#8220;What Lies Beneath&#8221; &#8211; an archeological look at New Zealand, co-produced with TVNZ.  You can find it in their &#8220;people&#8221; catalog: <a href="http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_people.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
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		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks forestgreen for that background.  I have to admit my comments on NHNZ were drawn from foggy memory and I should have checked it&#039;s current status first before drawing it into the post.  It would be great to have a charter that allowed more of its work to be on air here in NZ.</description>
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<p>Thanks forestgreen for that background.  I have to admit my comments on NHNZ were drawn from foggy memory and I should have checked it&#8217;s current status first before drawing it into the post.  It would be great to have a charter that allowed more of its work to be on air here in NZ.</p>
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		<title>By: forestgreen</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/30/the-bbc-bee-vs-the-national-geographic-spider/#comment-51235</link>
		<dc:creator>forestgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NHNZ haven&#039;t been part of TVNZ for over a decade, since Fox Studios bought it (read: rescued it from closure) in 1997.   Kiwis are unlikely to have seen anything free-to-air out of NHNZ for years.  It&#039;s almost only ever on Sky (especially Discovery or NatGeo) or very recently TVNZ6 on Freeview.

Where they &#039;fit on the spectrum&#039; is where there&#039;s a market.  Most of their productions are for the US, but they get into Japan, Europe and increasingly China and Singapore.  They make everything from top shelf productions like the &#039;Equator&#039; and &#039;Wild Asia&#039; series to populist stuff like &#039;Megastructures&#039; and &#039;Most Extreme.&#039;

Still based in Dunedin, NHNZ employs heaps of Kiwi talent.  If whatever Government we&#039;ve got by the end of the year sorted out decent funding for &#039;Charter&#039; programming, maybe there&#039;ll be budget to get NHNZ into local docos again....</description>
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<p>NHNZ haven&#8217;t been part of TVNZ for over a decade, since Fox Studios bought it (read: rescued it from closure) in 1997.   Kiwis are unlikely to have seen anything free-to-air out of NHNZ for years.  It&#8217;s almost only ever on Sky (especially Discovery or NatGeo) or very recently TVNZ6 on Freeview.</p>
<p>Where they &#8216;fit on the spectrum&#8217; is where there&#8217;s a market.  Most of their productions are for the US, but they get into Japan, Europe and increasingly China and Singapore.  They make everything from top shelf productions like the &#8216;Equator&#8217; and &#8216;Wild Asia&#8217; series to populist stuff like &#8216;Megastructures&#8217; and &#8216;Most Extreme.&#8217;</p>
<p>Still based in Dunedin, NHNZ employs heaps of Kiwi talent.  If whatever Government we&#8217;ve got by the end of the year sorted out decent funding for &#8216;Charter&#8217; programming, maybe there&#8217;ll be budget to get NHNZ into local docos again&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching the BBC&#039;s The Blue World last night and thought Attenborough was totally prejudiced against orca, referring to them as &#039;killer&#039; whales and presenting their hard, well-organised and cooperative work to get lunch out of a grey whale calf as an &#039;attack&#039;, then moaning about them only eating the tongue and lower jaw. 

I think he&#039;s just jealous because orca are cooler and prettier than he is.</description>
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<p>I was watching the BBC&#8217;s The Blue World last night and thought Attenborough was totally prejudiced against orca, referring to them as &#8216;killer&#8217; whales and presenting their hard, well-organised and cooperative work to get lunch out of a grey whale calf as an &#8216;attack&#8217;, then moaning about them only eating the tongue and lower jaw. </p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s just jealous because orca are cooler and prettier than he is.</p>
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		<title>By: ZippyGonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZippyGonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animal fights. Meh. Prefer Spiders on Drugs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc</description>
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<p>Animal fights. Meh. Prefer Spiders on Drugs:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc</a></p>
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		<title>By: lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show was &quot;Animal Face Off&quot; which, to link back to frog&#039;s question, was made by NHNZ (http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_nature.html).

I assumed it might have been based on the wealth of antipodean accents in the ones I saw. They&#039;ve kinda moved on from Wild South and so on.

There&#039;s one where a crocodile beat a lion.</description>
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<p>The show was &#8220;Animal Face Off&#8221; which, to link back to frog&#8217;s question, was made by NHNZ (<a href="http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_nature.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhnz.tv/cat_nature.html</a>).</p>
<p>I assumed it might have been based on the wealth of antipodean accents in the ones I saw. They&#8217;ve kinda moved on from Wild South and so on.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one where a crocodile beat a lion.</p>
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		<title>By: ZippyGonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZippyGonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting contrast in docos. Love it. The NHU was definitely closer to the Beeb version. I&#039;d say NHNZ has followed in their footsteps. Jeremy Wells still lampoons Sir Kenneth&#039;s Landmarks style in TUHONZ to great effect.</description>
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<p>Interesting contrast in docos. Love it. The NHU was definitely closer to the Beeb version. I&#8217;d say NHNZ has followed in their footsteps. Jeremy Wells still lampoons Sir Kenneth&#8217;s Landmarks style in TUHONZ to great effect.</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit like Helen vs John, but better looking!</description>
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<p>A bit like Helen vs John, but better looking!</p>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is/was a show on one of the SKY channels (maybe Nat Geo, heh) that simulated unlikely animal showdowns, like a Tiger vs a lion, shark vs...a gorilla or something. But a real leopard vs a real croc - woah!</description>
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<p>There is/was a show on one of the SKY channels (maybe Nat Geo, heh) that simulated unlikely animal showdowns, like a Tiger vs a lion, shark vs&#8230;a gorilla or something. But a real leopard vs a real croc &#8211; woah!</p>
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