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	<title>Comments on: MFish and Maori</title>
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		<title>By: Tuatara</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-51015</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuatara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah,

Lets move government to free and open source software!

A cup of ubuntu for anyone?</description>
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<p>Yeah,</p>
<p>Lets move government to free and open source software!</p>
<p>A cup of ubuntu for anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-51014</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie,

It is not the Operating System Software that is the problem.  Rather the application software set up used to create the Document.  This could be Word, Notepad, WordPad and a host of others.

Nohing to do with Microsoft versus Mac.  In fact if you used Microsoft Word on a Mac computer you would have the same problem. 

Hope your Mac has antivirus and internet security software, Apple is now advising all Macs users who are on a network to do.</description>
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<p>Katie,</p>
<p>It is not the Operating System Software that is the problem.  Rather the application software set up used to create the Document.  This could be Word, Notepad, WordPad and a host of others.</p>
<p>Nohing to do with Microsoft versus Mac.  In fact if you used Microsoft Word on a Mac computer you would have the same problem. </p>
<p>Hope your Mac has antivirus and internet security software, Apple is now advising all Macs users who are on a network to do.</p>
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		<title>By: kahikatea</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-51010</link>
		<dc:creator>kahikatea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>#  katie Says:<br />
July 29th, 2008 at 12:52 am</p>
<p>&gt; Blame the internal logic of a nation that couldnâ€™t handle the phrase â€œFrench Friesâ€? in very recent history, for producing xenophobic word processing software <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They were right to rename them. France is not in any way responsible for those culinary abominations.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50950</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former french teacher once employed in the Translation Service of Internal Affairs, I can spot the problem with this document: Microsoft!

Working inside a purely Mac environment for translation work, all the languages processed were easily identified and kept &#039;clean&#039; on documents without any data transfer from other languages possibly being used in the same document. 

I&#039;m sure that the OSS used by Frog doesn&#039;t have problems with multiple languages, or even dialects of the same language, being expressed in the same document.
Blame the internal logic of a nation that couldn&#039;t handle the phrase &quot;French Fries&quot; in very recent history, for producing xenophobic word processing software :-D</description>
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<p>As a former french teacher once employed in the Translation Service of Internal Affairs, I can spot the problem with this document: Microsoft!</p>
<p>Working inside a purely Mac environment for translation work, all the languages processed were easily identified and kept &#8216;clean&#8217; on documents without any data transfer from other languages possibly being used in the same document. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that the OSS used by Frog doesn&#8217;t have problems with multiple languages, or even dialects of the same language, being expressed in the same document.<br />
Blame the internal logic of a nation that couldn&#8217;t handle the phrase &#8220;French Fries&#8221; in very recent history, for producing xenophobic word processing software <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Spondre</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50931</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Spondre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jh: that is not an education I want. 

&quot;The left in the Green Party think this is a bit of dynamite that will blow up and destroy colonisation/ capitalism.&quot; 

They can believe what they want as long as it stops coming out of my pocket. 

What kind of people are these? What do they do for jobs ? Who is picking up the tab?</description>
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<p>jh: that is not an education I want. </p>
<p>&#8220;The left in the Green Party think this is a bit of dynamite that will blow up and destroy colonisation/ capitalism.&#8221; </p>
<p>They can believe what they want as long as it stops coming out of my pocket. </p>
<p>What kind of people are these? What do they do for jobs ? Who is picking up the tab?</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50928</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan you really need to get an education. I&#039;m enrolling you here:
http://tinyurl.com/5sysko

At the time the treaty was signed Maori probably thought they were getting something like a UN presence which would have made some sense, however the demographics changed quickly.  We have been bought up believing the treaty had a soundness it never really had. A literal interpretation (remember Maori were the majority ... and these were fighting chiefs) keeps tino rangitiratanga intact. It was convenient to &quot;celebrate&quot; the treaty as long as Maori didn&#039;t force the issue to much. When Moari and the Green Party want to force the issue the sky is the limit (and practicality and likelihood are the inverse). The left in the Green Party think this is a bit of dynamite that will blow up and destroy colonisation/ capitalism.</description>
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<p>Bryan you really need to get an education. I&#8217;m enrolling you here:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5sysko" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5sysko</a></p>
<p>At the time the treaty was signed Maori probably thought they were getting something like a UN presence which would have made some sense, however the demographics changed quickly.  We have been bought up believing the treaty had a soundness it never really had. A literal interpretation (remember Maori were the majority &#8230; and these were fighting chiefs) keeps tino rangitiratanga intact. It was convenient to &#8220;celebrate&#8221; the treaty as long as Maori didn&#8217;t force the issue to much. When Moari and the Green Party want to force the issue the sky is the limit (and practicality and likelihood are the inverse). The left in the Green Party think this is a bit of dynamite that will blow up and destroy colonisation/ capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50927</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the gravy train just keeps chugging along.

When will this nonsense end?</description>
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<p>And the gravy train just keeps chugging along.</p>
<p>When will this nonsense end?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Spondre</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50924</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Spondre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jh: come on now. Maori gave up sovereignty in return for something much more valuable: protection by the British.</description>
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<p>jh: come on now. Maori gave up sovereignty in return for something much more valuable: protection by the British.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50923</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of posturing is just offering a fig leaf. Under Ti Tiriti, Maori (by tino rangitiratanga)  should be consulting with the crown (kawangatanga) as represented by the settler government (ie they should have the senior governance role). As we ought to know by now it is the version as understood by the indigenous group that is recognised under international law and that didn&#039;t concede tino rangitiratanga [that&#039;s Green Party policy].</description>
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<p>This sort of posturing is just offering a fig leaf. Under Ti Tiriti, Maori (by tino rangitiratanga)  should be consulting with the crown (kawangatanga) as represented by the settler government (ie they should have the senior governance role). As we ought to know by now it is the version as understood by the indigenous group that is recognised under international law and that didn&#8217;t concede tino rangitiratanga [that's Green Party policy].</p>
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		<title>By: XYY</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50920</link>
		<dc:creator>XYY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps they needed to consult on how to produce a consultation paper on consulting...</description>
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<p>Perhaps they needed to consult on how to produce a consultation paper on consulting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Spondre</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/28/mfish-and-maori/#comment-50916</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Spondre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, a consultation paper on consulting??? Now who says the bureaucracy is too big.</description>
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<p>Hmm, a consultation paper on consulting??? Now who says the bureaucracy is too big.</p>
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