Comments on: Vettori on Zimbabwe and politics http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/ hopping along the corridors of power Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:38:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50893 StephenR Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:06:32 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50893 I offer a few opinions, examples, evidence, now your turn! Change my mind. I offer a few opinions, examples, evidence, now your turn! Change my mind.

]]> By: numbersix http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50889 numbersix Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:59:00 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50889 || The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another You had me until you wrote that. James is right - the hypocrisy is breath-taking. || The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another

You had me until you wrote that.

James is right - the hypocrisy is breath-taking.

]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50858 StephenR Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:08:10 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50858 In my humble opinion... :-D In my humble opinion… :-D

]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50857 StephenR Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:07:04 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50857 The difference James, is that the 'history' is still 'current' - they <i> systematically </i> ,as opposed to illegally, trample on their own citizens every day for something like carrying a picture of the dalai lama in their pocket. The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another (e.g. illegal spying on their own citizens) thanks to their open and transparent system of government (checks and balances etc). The Chinese govt just does what they want in order to keep power, and to hell with you! The difference James, is that the ‘history’ is still ‘current’ - they systematically ,as opposed to illegally, trample on their own citizens every day for something like carrying a picture of the dalai lama in their pocket. The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another (e.g. illegal spying on their own citizens) thanks to their open and transparent system of government (checks and balances etc). The Chinese govt just does what they want in order to keep power, and to hell with you!

]]> By: James Littlewood http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50855 James Littlewood Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:01:31 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50855 I get sick of people saying China doesn't deserve the olympics due to its human rights history. If we applied that criteria every olympiad, no country with the necessary resources would qualify. Aussie? Um, not really. Greece? Dunno. America? Yeah, right. On reflection, maybe we should apply it! I get sick of people saying China doesn’t deserve the olympics due to its human rights history. If we applied that criteria every olympiad, no country with the necessary resources would qualify.

Aussie? Um, not really. Greece? Dunno. America? Yeah, right.

On reflection, maybe we should apply it!

]]> By: Strings http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50837 Strings Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:40:22 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50837 So we come to the bottom line again! The Fine! Supposing it will just be NZ$2 million, plus the loss of broadcasting and advertising revenue, a conservative estimate might be $8 million. Should we have a whip round and ask everyone in the country to put $2 in the hat, or should we just add that to the amount we need to borrow to keep the country going after the current government's spend-up, or should we just bankrupt NZ cricket and forget this aspect of Kiwi summer and international sport entirely? So we come to the bottom line again! The Fine!

Supposing it will just be NZ$2 million, plus the loss of broadcasting and advertising revenue, a conservative estimate might be $8 million. Should we have a whip round and ask everyone in the country to put $2 in the hat, or should we just add that to the amount we need to borrow to keep the country going after the current government’s spend-up, or should we just bankrupt NZ cricket and forget this aspect of Kiwi summer and international sport entirely?

]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50812 StephenR Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:17:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50812 If the people of Zimbabwe are being beaten for trying to vote, and starving, it seems a bit much to send a touring team of rich professional athletes over to stay in the one hotel which can afford to import food, wouldn't you say ekstatek? If the people of Zimbabwe are being beaten for trying to vote, and starving, it seems a bit much to send a touring team of rich professional athletes over to stay in the one hotel which can afford to import food, wouldn’t you say ekstatek?

]]> By: ekstatek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50799 ekstatek Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:50:44 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/27/vettori-on-zimbabwe-and-politics/#comment-50799 I don't see why people give touring sports such a hard time, in such places as zimbabwe and now the china olympics. They are simply entertaining the people of that country and supporting the regimes far less than us normal people who trade and buy goods from these countries, which taxes directly support the governments of these type of places. Pakistan however is another topic, I don't think our team should go there. I don’t see why people give touring sports such a hard time, in such places as zimbabwe and now the china olympics. They are simply entertaining the people of that country and supporting the regimes far less than us normal people who trade and buy goods from these countries, which taxes directly support the governments of these type of places.

Pakistan however is another topic, I don’t think our team should go there.

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