I offer a few opinions, examples, evidence, now your turn! Change my mind.

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|| The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another

You had me until you wrote that.

James is right – the hypocrisy is breath-taking.

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In my humble opinion…

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The difference James, is that the ‘history’ is still ‘current’ – they systematically ,as opposed to illegally, trample on their own citizens every day for something like carrying a picture of the dalai lama in their pocket. The US has done some bad things every now and then, but most have been exposed as being illegal or at least underhanded with massive recriminations for at least some of those involved at some time or another (e.g. illegal spying on their own citizens) thanks to their open and transparent system of government (checks and balances etc). The Chinese govt just does what they want in order to keep power, and to hell with you!

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I get sick of people saying China doesn’t deserve the olympics due to its human rights history. If we applied that criteria every olympiad, no country with the necessary resources would qualify.

Aussie? Um, not really. Greece? Dunno. America? Yeah, right.

On reflection, maybe we should apply it!

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So we come to the bottom line again! The Fine!

Supposing it will just be NZ$2 million, plus the loss of broadcasting and advertising revenue, a conservative estimate might be $8 million. Should we have a whip round and ask everyone in the country to put $2 in the hat, or should we just add that to the amount we need to borrow to keep the country going after the current government’s spend-up, or should we just bankrupt NZ cricket and forget this aspect of Kiwi summer and international sport entirely?

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If the people of Zimbabwe are being beaten for trying to vote, and starving, it seems a bit much to send a touring team of rich professional athletes over to stay in the one hotel which can afford to import food, wouldn’t you say ekstatek?

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I don’t see why people give touring sports such a hard time, in such places as zimbabwe and now the china olympics. They are simply entertaining the people of that country and supporting the regimes far less than us normal people who trade and buy goods from these countries, which taxes directly support the governments of these type of places.

Pakistan however is another topic, I don’t think our team should go there.

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