Could we not guarantee free education, health care and superannuation for our citizens while still hovering in the top, like the Netherlands?

That takes money Frog.

Without a capitalist agenda guaranteeing income, we are destined to be more like Fiji rather than like any of the Scandinavian or European countries.

You forget that we are saddled with a huge component of Pacific cultural baggage.

Even if you consider that to be a good thing, there is no way you can pretend that we can build a Euro-style country upon it.

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Just what are the “tired old failed policies” that National had, and how many of their reforms have the current corrupt govt changed?

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“The left stoops so low compared to the right”

Glad you agree, would you like me to list a few examples?

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I am well aware what you said however still does not mean that any party who supported the EFA can claim it has principles.

As for donations, well in a perfect world I would agree with you however we both know that any company or businessman who dared to donate a sum of money to the right would be attacked, vandalized and abused by rabid lefties and pinko’s, so for that reason I would favour keeping donations anonymous, after all it is my money and I will do with it what I like.

While we are discussing this issue it might be a good idea if you actually told us the real reason you are against big donations, we both know it is because you dislike the ease with which the Nat’s can raise money (which is where your support of this piece of envy legislation comes from) compared to the Greens and of course the fact that ultimately you want ME (and all other tax payers) to pay for your electioneering.

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“‘Round and ’round we go, the usual crap from big bro”

Further confirmation that the left revert to abuse when faced with opposition, mind you at least I will not be the one who is crying into my herbal tea on election night when the Greens fail to make the threshold.

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Any party that supported the EFA does NOT have principles.

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I don’t, it would leave us far too vulnerable to e-terrorists; don’t forget what happened to Estonia in last year when they pulled down that statue.

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While I don’t agree with some of the principles that the ACT Party stands for (especially the ones that put the interests of the individual above the interests of the community as a whole, although I do agree largely with their socially libertarian principles) I agree that since the departure of Prebble as Leader they have been largely a principled Party.

As have the Greens!

The rest of the parties just pander to prejudice and short-term public opinion responses to political issues – essentially giving succour to bigotry and small-mindedness.

How about an agreement among all our political leaders to actually lead, rather than to pander to the worst aspects of humanity???

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I’ve often wondered whether Act is the Yang to the Green’s Yin. Perhaps a coalition of the two would give society more integral and substantive solutions

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If you were admonishing the Greens for not having policy, I failed to see it in your post and aplogise for the oversight.

So will the Greens publish some concrete, costed policies that will be instrumental in meeting the vision the party has?

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Now that’s democracy

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I cannot reject Key’s vision out of hand because he hasn’t presented one.

I can only reject the tired and failed National Party policies of the past, which do seem to be peeping through the very few words that Key’s Australian minders allow him to speak. Such policies do not bode well for NZ’s future.

As for the Green vision, I cannot speak for that unless it is published policy. Did it ever occur to you that my jab at the Nats was also an indirect jab at my very own Greens?

One thing that the Greens have stated is that they will work constructively with any party on shared issues. When the Nats front up with a statement of principles, we can talk about something more than an issue by issue relationship.

Only Act, (God forbid), and the Greens have any clearly articulated principles. It would be easier to find common ground with them in order to build something more than an issue by issue relationship. Indeed, we have worked constructively with them in the House on many occasions. Rodney’s impassioned speech against the last Terrorism Bill was a work of art.

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