Comments on: Aerial 1080 on the West Coast http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/ hopping along the corridors of power Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:50:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: chasemecatchme http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52525 chasemecatchme Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:19:31 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52525 Ty Dairy cows I mean Ty
Dairy cows I mean

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]]> By: Stephen D http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52513 Stephen D Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:31:36 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52513 You've opened up at least six different subjects with that post chaseme :D:D All of them very relevant..... Cattle aren't really a major problem though, they don't get farmed anywhere near as intensively as dairy cows, now they are a real problem. You’ve opened up at least six different subjects with that post chaseme :D :D
All of them very relevant…..

Cattle aren’t really a major problem though, they don’t get farmed anywhere near as intensively as dairy cows, now they are a real problem.

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]]> By: chasemecatchme http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52476 chasemecatchme Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:00:50 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52476 Well the truth is we will never be rid off possums. I say stop farming cattle and get back to our grass roots and plant trees. We have the biggest fresh water resivior in the southern hemsphire and more coast line than America. As a nation we could supply food water and wood to show those supa powers what it means to be super.Get real guys stop hassleing the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. Start been pro active and reforest our country so there's enough forest both for us the Fauna and our friends the great aussie possim. Well back to my cosy office, coushy adjustable chair and sink back to lazyniess. More hydrological data analysis. :) (Hamma lives on) Well the truth is we will never be rid off possums. I say stop farming cattle and get back to our grass roots and plant trees. We have the biggest fresh water resivior in the southern hemsphire and more coast line than America. As a nation we could supply food water and wood to show those supa powers what it means to be super.Get real guys stop hassleing the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. Start been pro active and reforest our country so there’s enough forest both for us the Fauna and our friends the great aussie possim.
Well back to my cosy office, coushy adjustable chair and sink back to lazyniess. More hydrological data analysis. :)
(Hamma lives on)

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52437 Sika Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:48:41 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52437 Congratulation to the West Coaster you did not win totally but you made the AHB sit up and think, they cut back the size of the job to miss your drinking water and with the rush to try and beat the protests they may not get the result they want so this shows that they will compromise their standards. Now where is what you have to do; 1 with all the TV and video footage check if you can prove that they did not do their job within the Medical Officer of Health Guide lines, one area I would look at is the dust that was seem blowing around on the TV news. 2 Check that they Correctly disposed of any unused poison and poison bags. 3 Check the farm boundaries for over flies. 4. It is an offence to leave the signs up after the all clear is given. 5 The most important help your local contractors to do the job with methods you accept. If you have friends that are farmer encourage the to make their farms 1080 and Brodie free as I believe that Brodie will be the down fall of the NZ exports as it is an accumulative poison and the AHB plaster all over farms. 6 Someone make contact with the group in Turangi and compare notes on the way EPRO of Taupo handled the operation and the over fly they have the idea that by bullying they can walk all over the locals. Congratulation to the West Coaster you did not win totally but you made the AHB sit up and think, they cut back the size of the job to miss your drinking water and with the rush to try and beat the protests they may not get the result they want so this shows that they will compromise their standards. Now where is what you have to do; 1 with all the TV and video footage check if you can prove that they did not do their job within the Medical Officer of Health Guide lines, one area I would look at is the dust that was seem blowing around on the TV news. 2 Check that they Correctly disposed of any unused poison and poison bags. 3 Check the farm boundaries for over flies. 4. It is an offence to leave the signs up after the all clear is given. 5 The most important help your local contractors to do the job with methods you accept. If you have friends that are farmer encourage the to make their farms 1080 and Brodie free as I believe that Brodie will be the down fall of the NZ exports as it is an accumulative poison and the AHB plaster all over farms. 6 Someone make contact with the group in Turangi and compare notes on the way EPRO of Taupo handled the operation and the over fly they have the idea that by bullying they can walk all over the locals.

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52104 Sika Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:16:46 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52104 Lets look at a area of concern that is also a lie. The number of possums in NZ. We heard the figure of 70 million where did it come from is it correct. I can say infacticly NO why? Well here is how it came about. Many years ago in the late 80's at a National Science Strategy meeting on Pest Control a group sate down over a beer and calculated the number of possums in this country the late Dr Keber made the notes on the back of a cigarette packet to do the additions the discussed the size of NZ and a percentage in Native, Farmer, Forestry, Scrub and the number they believed live in each did their maths and come up with 70 million. It have may been right but is it not time that we redid this calculation we now have so muck research on how many live where and how many AHB DOC and Trappers kill (which is a 2.1 million a year 60 ton of fur is about what I have been told has been sold in the last 12 months plus skins) AHB if the figure of $25 per possum at $80 million is 3.2 Million Doc I have no figures to work on but lets use 1.8 million as it make things easy. This adds up to 7 million 10% of the population per year and the population stays stable. But if you ask an older trapper there are for less possums around now than he can remember in the 80's and I would tend to agree. But we have no evidence as no body will pay for the research as if the numbers are on the decline they may find that Questions will be asked why is the possum costing us so much. May be it is time that the politician asked for this research to be done. Lets look at a area of concern that is also a lie. The number of possums in NZ. We heard the figure of 70 million where did it come from is it correct. I can say infacticly NO why? Well here is how it came about. Many years ago in the late 80’s at a National Science Strategy meeting on Pest Control a group sate down over a beer and calculated the number of possums in this country the late Dr Keber made the notes on the back of a cigarette packet to do the additions the discussed the size of NZ and a percentage in Native, Farmer, Forestry, Scrub and the number they believed live in each did their maths and come up with 70 million. It have may been right but is it not time that we redid this calculation we now have so muck research on how many live where and how many AHB DOC and Trappers kill (which is a 2.1 million a year 60 ton of fur is about what I have been told has been sold in the last 12 months plus skins) AHB if the figure of $25 per possum at $80 million is 3.2 Million Doc I have no figures to work on but lets use 1.8 million as it make things easy. This adds up to 7 million 10% of the population per year and the population stays stable. But if you ask an older trapper there are for less possums around now than he can remember in the 80’s and I would tend to agree. But we have no evidence as no body will pay for the research as if the numbers are on the decline they may find that Questions will be asked why is the possum costing us so much. May be it is time that the politician asked for this research to be done.

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]]> By: Stephen D http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52035 Stephen D Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:59:55 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52035 When it comes to getting facts right you’d better sharpen up. Fact 1) Full research has not been done on the effects of 1080 on bug’s and invertebrate which are right at the start of any food chain. Fact 2) The offshore scientists don’t seem to agree with the locals. Fact 3) Australian’s are getting hood winked as well. They have the native mammals including massive amounts of bats you speak of….. Fact 4) There is much better and more effective ways to control pests, all that 1080 is doing is taking the cream off the top, not very effectively either these days. 1080 COULD have been used as a tool but the boat has sailed on its usefulness now because of the current over-use. It was never the whole toolbox and was never going to be. Fact 5) This is all about profit verus cost. It has nothing what-so-ever to do with what is best for the country. The funny thing is there is a more cost effective way to control them. There is one way to get control of the possum and poisoning the country doesn’t have much to do with it. But what would I know? Let me see………oh that’s right, I do pest control work. When it comes to getting facts right you’d better sharpen up.

Fact 1) Full research has not been done on the effects of 1080 on bug’s and invertebrate which are right at the start of any food chain.

Fact 2) The offshore scientists don’t seem to agree with the locals.

Fact 3) Australian’s are getting hood winked as well. They have the native mammals including massive amounts of bats you speak of…..

Fact 4) There is much better and more effective ways to control pests, all that 1080 is doing is taking the cream off the top, not very effectively either these days. 1080 COULD have been used as a tool but the boat has sailed on its usefulness now because of the current over-use. It was never the whole toolbox and was never going to be.

Fact 5) This is all about profit verus cost. It has nothing what-so-ever to do with what is best for the country. The funny thing is there is a more cost effective way to control them.

There is one way to get control of the possum and poisoning the country doesn’t have much to do with it. But what would I know? Let me see………oh that’s right, I do pest control work.

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]]> By: Gill http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52017 Gill Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:30:39 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52017 There is hope then :) :) There is hope then :) :)

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52015 Sika Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:25:32 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-52015 We I don't like saying told you so but read this and think. Type into Google 1080 sperm counts it may surprise you that the official line is that there are so few using 1080 its not a problem. The reason they say that is there are so few people using it as they only count the people with Licenses and not the 20 other worker working under them and I can tell you guys it works as most my mates have no kids as well. We I don’t like saying told you so but read this and think. Type into Google 1080 sperm counts it may surprise you that the official line is that there are so few using 1080 its not a problem. The reason they say that is there are so few people using it as they only count the people with Licenses and not the 20 other worker working under them and I can tell you guys it works as most my mates have no kids as well.

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]]> By: chasemecatchme http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51983 chasemecatchme Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:54:35 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51983 An Ode to HAMMA (The poisioned One) Well got out of the office today took some great photos of the High Flows of Mangapiko, Little Wipa, Huihuitaha, & Lake Ngaroto, Nice time to reflect on the deforestation of our country while half of our sub soil makes it's way down to the ocean. The ironic thing is I get paid for this, by the very companys who support the dairy industry (not sure now for how long). The sooner we wake up as a nation & start supporting each other instead of building 6 foot fences the better. When i was a kid & we ran out off milk for breakfast we didnt just go next door to borrow some milk, we went there to have breakfast. Bring back this kiwi spirt & support well bieng for our people & the environment. An Ode to HAMMA (The poisioned One)
Well got out of the office today took some great photos of the High Flows of Mangapiko, Little Wipa, Huihuitaha, & Lake Ngaroto, Nice time to reflect on the deforestation of our country while half of our sub soil makes it’s way down to the ocean. The ironic thing is I get paid for this, by the very companys who support the dairy industry (not sure now for how long). The sooner we wake up as a nation & start supporting each other instead of building 6 foot fences the better. When i was a kid & we ran out off milk for breakfast we didnt just go next door to borrow some milk, we went there to have breakfast. Bring back this kiwi spirt & support well bieng for our people & the environment.

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]]> By: pepeke http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51934 pepeke Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:09:46 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51934 The reason NZ uses the majority of 1080 is very simple. We have no native mammals (except for the bats). In other countries i.e. in parts of Europe or the US or Canada, you risk poisoning your native fauna, which includes mammals. Here in NZ, we are uniquely placed to be able to use a toxin (which, if you READ the facts i stated above) that is derived from plants that evolved the toxin to keep browsing mammals at bay. There are no conspiracy theories here. the facts about 1080 are easy to find if you look for them, but it seems people are more content to continually spew forth misinformation and scaremongering tactics. i was interested but not surprised to hear that the farmer had given permission after all - and it is simply another example of 'never let the facts get in the way of a good story'. I am disappointed that on a Green blog, whereby the protection of our native fauna and flora should be of great concern, that people are blind to the overriding issue of what is at stake here. our natural heritage. Before anyone posts a reponse, i would recommend reading the simple facts noted above. The reason NZ uses the majority of 1080 is very simple. We have no native mammals (except for the bats). In other countries i.e. in parts of Europe or the US or Canada, you risk poisoning your native fauna, which includes mammals. Here in NZ, we are uniquely placed to be able to use a toxin (which, if you READ the facts i stated above) that is derived from plants that evolved the toxin to keep browsing mammals at bay.

There are no conspiracy theories here. the facts about 1080 are easy to find if you look for them, but it seems people are more content to continually spew forth misinformation and scaremongering tactics.

i was interested but not surprised to hear that the farmer had given permission after all – and it is simply another example of ‘never let the facts get in the way of a good story’.

I am disappointed that on a Green blog, whereby the protection of our native fauna and flora should be of great concern, that people are blind to the overriding issue of what is at stake here. our natural heritage.

Before anyone posts a reponse, i would recommend reading the simple facts noted above.

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]]> By: Stephen D http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51924 Stephen D Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:22:44 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51924 If 1080 is so good how come we use the bulk and Aussie uses the rest of the world supply? It seems to me that the science being used here is a one off, where is the offshore backup to what our scientists reckon? This is a weapon of mass destruction, so we plaster our own country with it. That is just dumb. If 1080 is so good how come we use the bulk and Aussie uses the rest of the world supply?
It seems to me that the science being used here is a one off, where is the offshore backup to what our scientists reckon?

This is a weapon of mass destruction, so we plaster our own country with it. That is just dumb.

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]]> By: chasemecatchme http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51908 chasemecatchme Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:41:05 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51908 Well just a short note about the the deer that were killed. What you didnt hear from the media waz WCDC were given authority to spread 1080 on that farmers property. The contractors even moved the cows for him, they were never once told about the dear. Alos the person you saw on Tv was not the owner of the farm but the farmers son. Well confussion confussion.... Um while I sit on my bum & do some more environmental monitering & data anaylising. Well just a short note about the the deer that were killed. What you didnt hear from the media waz WCDC were given authority to spread 1080 on that farmers property. The contractors even moved the cows for him, they were never once told about the dear. Alos the person you saw on Tv was not the owner of the farm but the farmers son. Well confussion confussion…. Um while I sit on my bum & do some more environmental monitering & data anaylising.

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51831 Sika Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:05:55 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51831 I totally disagree with the antics of some of the anti 1080 lobby and i am-anti areal 1080. Of cause ERMA approve the use of 1080 a year ago but what is starting to come out is the amount of regional council, Animal Control products, DOC money went into making sure that the approval went through. I know of at least one pest ,anger that has lost his job because the regional council realise how much money they had put into the campaign, If you ask independent oversea scientist to peer review the research that was put up in support of the approval of 1080 by DOC and the AHB you will find most of them have heard from their sources that the reseasrch if flawed. The was also and agreement between some researchers in Austilria and New Zealand that they would support each other aproval because it is the best cash cow they have ever had. Start asking questions on how much money is spent on 1080 research each year who pays for it and why are the results alway pro the payers policy. I totally disagree with the antics of some of the anti 1080 lobby and i am-anti areal 1080. Of cause ERMA approve the use of 1080 a year ago but what is starting to come out is the amount of regional council, Animal Control products, DOC money went into making sure that the approval went through. I know of at least one pest ,anger that has lost his job because the regional council realise how much money they had put into the campaign, If you ask independent oversea scientist to peer review the research that was put up in support of the approval of 1080 by DOC and the AHB you will find most of them have heard from their sources that the reseasrch if flawed. The was also and agreement between some researchers in Austilria and New Zealand that they would support each other aproval because it is the best cash cow they have ever had. Start asking questions on how much money is spent on 1080 research each year who pays for it and why are the results alway pro the payers policy.

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]]> By: chasemecatchme http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51821 chasemecatchme Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:57:16 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51821 Well Hey guys Just like to give you a update. I am the contractors brother whos dog waz killed. Well that dog has been a working dog for ova 10 years, got my brother were he is to day by protecting and enhancing our forest, that dog done a lot more for our country than half of us who sit on our asses and moan . By all means I'm a greene even voted the greens twice third time the Maori party. I dont totally agree what my brother is doing but i think we forget the biggest threat to our Fauna is loss of habitat. Yep We are the problem. My niece and nephew had to witness the dog vomiting and convulsing while my brother drove home to get his gun. Gun, brother and dog disapear (Hamma) Nice experince for the kids !!!! This problem is now out off contorl, one of the coasters assulted my brother and is now in court. Come on guys get a grip!!!!! While been filmed which you saw on Tv the guys taunted my brother howz ur dog howz ur dog .... Well hes dead This same coaster told my brother yes he killed his dog & it waz in self defence, I do hope this guy fronts up like a real man & faces the music before someone deals out west coast justice. Lets stop bieng so personall & start working together to solve this problem. The distress this is causing to every one involved is not good for our health or our country. I might sound a bit emotional but I LOVED that dog tooo Cya Hamma Love u Well Hey guys
Just like to give you a update. I am the contractors brother whos dog waz killed. Well that dog has been a working dog for ova 10 years, got my brother were he is to day by protecting and enhancing our forest, that dog done a lot more for our country than half of us who sit on our asses and moan . By all means I’m a greene even voted the greens twice third time the Maori party. I dont totally agree what my brother is doing but i think we forget the biggest threat to our Fauna is loss of habitat. Yep We are the problem. My niece and nephew had to witness the dog vomiting and convulsing while my brother drove home to get his gun. Gun, brother and dog disapear (Hamma) Nice experince for the kids !!!!
This problem is now out off contorl, one of the coasters assulted my brother and is now in court. Come on guys get a grip!!!!!
While been filmed which you saw on Tv the guys taunted my brother howz ur dog howz ur dog …. Well hes dead This same coaster told my brother yes he killed his dog & it waz in self defence, I do hope this guy fronts up like a real man & faces the music before someone deals out west coast justice.
Lets stop bieng so personall & start working together to solve this problem. The distress this is causing to every one involved is not good for our health or our country.
I might sound a bit emotional but I LOVED that dog tooo
Cya Hamma Love u

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]]> By: pepeke http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51791 pepeke Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:44:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51791 I wish there were better facts out there about 1080. All we hear is from the raving anti brigade - its time for some balanced information. Fact: in 2007, ERMA (as an independent authority) approved the use of 1080 in NZ, after a review which DOC and the AHB APPLIED for, to be certain of their operations. Fact: the financial significance of the cattle industry (particularly on the Coast), is worth $14 billion to the economy. My family clearly remember neighbours not even being allowed to move their stock if there was a risk of TB. Fact: with no native mammals except for bats, NZ's wildlife is especially at risk from predators including possums. Possums eat bird eggs, chicks and even adult birds. Fact: 1080 is derived from a naturally occuring substance found in plants in Australia, South America and South Africa, which evolved the substance to deter browsing mammals. The hysteria needs to stop. And it is completely unhelpful for the anti-brigade to lower themselves to violence and dog-poisoning to try to prove their point. PS. when the public submissions came in on the ERMA 1080 review, more submissions were in support than against. I wish there were better facts out there about 1080. All we hear is from the raving anti brigade – its time for some balanced information.

Fact: in 2007, ERMA (as an independent authority) approved the use of 1080 in NZ, after a review which DOC and the AHB APPLIED for, to be certain of their operations.

Fact: the financial significance of the cattle industry (particularly on the Coast), is worth $14 billion to the economy. My family clearly remember neighbours not even being allowed to move their stock if there was a risk of TB.

Fact: with no native mammals except for bats, NZ’s wildlife is especially at risk from predators including possums. Possums eat bird eggs, chicks and even adult birds.

Fact: 1080 is derived from a naturally occuring substance found in plants in Australia, South America and South Africa, which evolved the substance to deter browsing mammals.

The hysteria needs to stop. And it is completely unhelpful for the anti-brigade to lower themselves to violence and dog-poisoning to try to prove their point.

PS. when the public submissions came in on the ERMA 1080 review, more submissions were in support than against.

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51770 Sika Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:26:49 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51770 What I was on TV last night raise one major concern that DOC should look at. Many years ago we were killing many small native birds with the small chips of 1080 pellets floating in the air the fantails and other small birds used to chase it like it was a small insect and it killed them. DOC best practice state that all bait must be screened to stop this happening so way was there so much green dust floating about. This could also be brought to the Medical Officer of Healths attention as in that area they may be going over the allowed amount of toxin dropped per hectare would be hard to prove. What I was on TV last night raise one major concern that DOC should look at. Many years ago we were killing many small native birds with the small chips of 1080 pellets floating in the air the fantails and other small birds used to chase it like it was a small insect and it killed them. DOC best practice state that all bait must be screened to stop this happening so way was there so much green dust floating about. This could also be brought to the Medical Officer of Healths attention as in that area they may be going over the allowed amount of toxin dropped per hectare would be hard to prove.

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]]> By: Stephen D http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51769 Stephen D Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:33:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51769 Who's got the money to? The two outfits you want to take there have a never ending supply of the stuff, or so it seems.... Who’s got the money to?

The two outfits you want to take there have a never ending supply of the stuff, or so it seems….

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]]> By: Gill http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51755 Gill Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:28:17 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51755 As the UK have found out, tuberculosis is not caused by badgers but by intensive farming... same as here. DoC and AHB are, in my opinion, criminals over the use of 1080.... and other poisons. I agree with you Sika... somebody should take these people to court.... but who? Nobody seems to have the courage :( As the UK have found out, tuberculosis is not caused by badgers but by intensive farming… same as here. DoC and AHB are, in my opinion, criminals over the use of 1080…. and other poisons. I agree with you Sika… somebody should take these people to court…. but who? Nobody seems to have the courage :(

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]]> By: Sika http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51754 Sika Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:02:41 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51754 As I have become more upset at the actions of the AHB and some of it contractor in the way they treat the general public, They seem to think the way to fix a problem is to attack the source eg attacking the people in Turangi where the director of EPRO was advised by Epro staff and the Lakeland helicopter pilot that there were animals in the drop zone, he accused the Turangi people of putting the pellets in the water. Now I see that they are trying to accuse the farmer of the deer that were kill of some thing untoward. Can they not take responsibility for their mistakes or is it part of the litany of lies like the cattle catch TB from the possum where it is the cows and the farm deer that give it to the wild possum and deer TB in the first place. The major drop in TB this country has seen in the last 3 years is not due to possum control but due the AHB bring in tighter stock movement control and at last prosecuting offenders. I believe it is time the AHB was made accountable to somebody. Come on you politicians step up to the mark and question their motives. As I have become more upset at the actions of the AHB and some of it contractor in the way they treat the general public, They seem to think the way to fix a problem is to attack the source eg attacking the people in Turangi where the director of EPRO was advised by Epro staff and the Lakeland helicopter pilot that there were animals in the drop zone, he accused the Turangi people of putting the pellets in the water. Now I see that they are trying to accuse the farmer of the deer that were kill of some thing untoward. Can they not take responsibility for their mistakes or is it part of the litany of lies like the cattle catch TB from the possum where it is the cows and the farm deer that give it to the wild possum and deer TB in the first place. The major drop in TB this country has seen in the last 3 years is not due to possum control but due the AHB bring in tighter stock movement control and at last prosecuting offenders. I believe it is time the AHB was made accountable to somebody. Come on you politicians step up to the mark and question their motives.

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]]> By: Stephen D http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51657 Stephen D Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:40:03 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/21/aerial-1080/#comment-51657 The AHB don't seem to like seeing anyone making a bit on the side-even though it's just going to waste, which seems to me to be so wasteful it's not funny. The AHB don’t seem to like seeing anyone making a bit on the side-even though it’s just going to waste, which seems to me to be so wasteful it’s not funny.

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