Comments on: Aerial 1080 on the West Coast

By: chasemecatchme

chasemecatchme — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:19:31 +0000

Ty
Dairy cows I mean

By: Stephen D

Stephen D — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:31:36 +0000

You’ve opened up at least six different subjects with that post chaseme :D:D
All of them very relevant…..

Cattle aren’t really a major problem though, they don’t get farmed anywhere near as intensively as dairy cows, now they are a real problem.

By: chasemecatchme

chasemecatchme — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:00:50 +0000

Well the truth is we will never be rid off possums. I say stop farming cattle and get back to our grass roots and plant trees. We have the biggest fresh water resivior in the southern hemsphire and more coast line than America. As a nation we could supply food water and wood to show those supa powers what it means to be super.Get real guys stop hassleing the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. Start been pro active and reforest our country so there’s enough forest both for us the Fauna and our friends the great aussie possim.
Well back to my cosy office, coushy adjustable chair and sink back to lazyniess. More hydrological data analysis.
(Hamma lives on)

By: Sika

Sika — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:48:41 +0000

Congratulation to the West Coaster you did not win totally but you made the AHB sit up and think, they cut back the size of the job to miss your drinking water and with the rush to try and beat the protests they may not get the result they want so this shows that they will compromise their standards. Now where is what you have to do; 1 with all the TV and video footage check if you can prove that they did not do their job within the Medical Officer of Health Guide lines, one area I would look at is the dust that was seem blowing around on the TV news. 2 Check that they Correctly disposed of any unused poison and poison bags. 3 Check the farm boundaries for over flies. 4. It is an offence to leave the signs up after the all clear is given. 5 The most important help your local contractors to do the job with methods you accept. If you have friends that are farmer encourage the to make their farms 1080 and Brodie free as I believe that Brodie will be the down fall of the NZ exports as it is an accumulative poison and the AHB plaster all over farms. 6 Someone make contact with the group in Turangi and compare notes on the way EPRO of Taupo handled the operation and the over fly they have the idea that by bullying they can walk all over the locals.

By: Sika

Sika — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:16:46 +0000

Lets look at a area of concern that is also a lie. The number of possums in NZ. We heard the figure of 70 million where did it come from is it correct. I can say infacticly NO why? Well here is how it came about. Many years ago in the late 80’s at a National Science Strategy meeting on Pest Control a group sate down over a beer and calculated the number of possums in this country the late Dr Keber made the notes on the back of a cigarette packet to do the additions the discussed the size of NZ and a percentage in Native, Farmer, Forestry, Scrub and the number they believed live in each did their maths and come up with 70 million. It have may been right but is it not time that we redid this calculation we now have so muck research on how many live where and how many AHB DOC and Trappers kill (which is a 2.1 million a year 60 ton of fur is about what I have been told has been sold in the last 12 months plus skins) AHB if the figure of $25 per possum at $80 million is 3.2 Million Doc I have no figures to work on but lets use 1.8 million as it make things easy. This adds up to 7 million 10% of the population per year and the population stays stable. But if you ask an older trapper there are for less possums around now than he can remember in the 80’s and I would tend to agree. But we have no evidence as no body will pay for the research as if the numbers are on the decline they may find that Questions will be asked why is the possum costing us so much. May be it is time that the politician asked for this research to be done.

By: Stephen D

Stephen D — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:59:55 +0000

When it comes to getting facts right you’d better sharpen up.

Fact 1) Full research has not been done on the effects of 1080 on bug’s and invertebrate which are right at the start of any food chain.

Fact 2) The offshore scientists don’t seem to agree with the locals.

Fact 3) Australian’s are getting hood winked as well. They have the native mammals including massive amounts of bats you speak of…..

Fact 4) There is much better and more effective ways to control pests, all that 1080 is doing is taking the cream off the top, not very effectively either these days. 1080 COULD have been used as a tool but the boat has sailed on its usefulness now because of the current over-use. It was never the whole toolbox and was never going to be.

Fact 5) This is all about profit verus cost. It has nothing what-so-ever to do with what is best for the country. The funny thing is there is a more cost effective way to control them.

There is one way to get control of the possum and poisoning the country doesn’t have much to do with it. But what would I know? Let me see………oh that’s right, I do pest control work.

By: Gill

Gill — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:30:39 +0000

There is hope then :)

By: Sika

Sika — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:25:32 +0000

We I don’t like saying told you so but read this and think. Type into Google 1080 sperm counts it may surprise you that the official line is that there are so few using 1080 its not a problem. The reason they say that is there are so few people using it as they only count the people with Licenses and not the 20 other worker working under them and I can tell you guys it works as most my mates have no kids as well.

By: chasemecatchme

chasemecatchme — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:54:35 +0000

An Ode to HAMMA (The poisioned One)
Well got out of the office today took some great photos of the High Flows of Mangapiko, Little Wipa, Huihuitaha, & Lake Ngaroto, Nice time to reflect on the deforestation of our country while half of our sub soil makes it’s way down to the ocean. The ironic thing is I get paid for this, by the very companys who support the dairy industry (not sure now for how long). The sooner we wake up as a nation & start supporting each other instead of building 6 foot fences the better. When i was a kid & we ran out off milk for breakfast we didnt just go next door to borrow some milk, we went there to have breakfast. Bring back this kiwi spirt & support well bieng for our people & the environment.

By: pepeke

pepeke — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:09:46 +0000

The reason NZ uses the majority of 1080 is very simple. We have no native mammals (except for the bats). In other countries i.e. in parts of Europe or the US or Canada, you risk poisoning your native fauna, which includes mammals. Here in NZ, we are uniquely placed to be able to use a toxin (which, if you READ the facts i stated above) that is derived from plants that evolved the toxin to keep browsing mammals at bay.

There are no conspiracy theories here. the facts about 1080 are easy to find if you look for them, but it seems people are more content to continually spew forth misinformation and scaremongering tactics.

i was interested but not surprised to hear that the farmer had given permission after all - and it is simply another example of ‘never let the facts get in the way of a good story’.

I am disappointed that on a Green blog, whereby the protection of our native fauna and flora should be of great concern, that people are blind to the overriding issue of what is at stake here. our natural heritage.

Before anyone posts a reponse, i would recommend reading the simple facts noted above.