Comments on: Some more #8 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:21:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: jh http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42723 jh Thu, 08 May 2008 00:31:26 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42723 I forgot about this: # ben (194) Says: May 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm Steve Levitt (Freakonomics) has researched why crime in NYC fell in the 1990s, and IIRC he concluded it had little or nothing to do with the Broken Windows policy and everything to do with Rowe vs. Wade in 1973 - about 18 years before crime in NYC and across America began its steep decline. ................ So Sue's ferals have a bit to do with it perhaps.....? I forgot about this:

# ben (194) Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

Steve Levitt (Freakonomics) has researched why crime in NYC fell in the 1990s, and IIRC he concluded it had little or nothing to do with the Broken Windows policy and everything to do with Rowe vs. Wade in 1973 - about 18 years before crime in NYC and across America began its steep decline.

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So Sue’s ferals have a bit to do with it perhaps…..?

]]> By: jh http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42722 jh Thu, 08 May 2008 00:12:58 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42722 The Greens are opposed to Big Brother and this policy involves more surviellence. The Greens are on an outlier position when it comes to civil liberties and along with civil libertarians will be breathing down the neck of any actions by the state. What's more there is a tendency to "blame the system" for errant behaviour, especially for people who "don't see the good side of life"... Sue Bradford. The Green Charter Principles are given broad scope of interpretation. :mrgreen: ps I'm a pragmatist, believing in the carrot and the stick and an evolutionary basis of behaviour. The Greens are opposed to Big Brother and this policy involves more surviellence.
The Greens are on an outlier position when it comes to civil liberties and along with civil libertarians will be breathing down the neck of any actions by the state. What’s more there is a tendency to “blame the system” for errant behaviour, especially for people who “don’t see the good side of life”… Sue Bradford.
The Green Charter Principles are given broad scope of interpretation. :mrgreen:
ps I’m a pragmatist, believing in the carrot and the stick and an evolutionary basis of behaviour.

]]> By: jh http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42721 jh Thu, 08 May 2008 00:04:09 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42721 kahikatea Says: May 8th, 2008 at 9:47 am How is the ‘broken windows’ policing approach contrary to the principle of non-violence? .............. Ask Keith. kahikatea Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 9:47 am

How is the ‘broken windows’ policing approach contrary to the principle of non-violence?
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Ask Keith.

]]> By: big bro http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42707 big bro Wed, 07 May 2008 21:53:38 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42707 Meanwhile the UK has re classified Cannabis as a class B drug....good for them. Meanwhile the UK has re classified Cannabis as a class B drug….good for them.

]]> By: kahikatea http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42702 kahikatea Wed, 07 May 2008 21:47:26 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42702 # jh Says: May 8th, 2008 at 9:17 am > This is just the Stuff the Greens are opposed to thanks to the Charter Principle of Non Violence. Keith must speak out! :? How is the 'broken windows' policing approach contrary to the principle of non-violence? # jh Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 9:17 am

> This is just the Stuff the Greens are opposed to thanks to the Charter Principle of Non Violence. Keith must speak out! :?

How is the ‘broken windows’ policing approach contrary to the principle of non-violence?

]]> By: big bro http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42699 big bro Wed, 07 May 2008 21:30:08 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42699 Quick...Make Dave Cliff commissioner NOW Quick…Make Dave Cliff commissioner NOW

]]> By: jh http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42695 jh Wed, 07 May 2008 21:17:09 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42695 Police promise to be tougher on violent crime by IAN STEWARD - The Press | Thursday, 08 May 2008 Christchurch police signalled a radical New York-style "zero tolerance" policy at a public meeting to address increasing violent crime in the city last night. http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4515072a6009.html This is just the Stuff the Greens are opposed to thanks to the Charter Principle of Non Violence. Keith must speak out! :? Police promise to be tougher on violent crime
by IAN STEWARD - The Press | Thursday, 08 May 2008

Christchurch police signalled a radical New York-style “zero tolerance” policy at a public meeting to address increasing violent crime in the city last night.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4515072a6009.html

This is just the Stuff the Greens are opposed to thanks to the Charter Principle of Non Violence. Keith must speak out! :?

]]> By: StephenR http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42694 StephenR Wed, 07 May 2008 21:06:40 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42694 Maybe. jh, other chemicals too! jeez Maybe.

jh, other chemicals too! jeez

]]> By: phil u http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42693 phil u Wed, 07 May 2008 21:01:48 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42693 and then in the following story you link to 'no minister'.. perhaps you'd have to go to the national front to find a more racist/sexist/everything-ist/pile of vomit site in new zealand.. but hey..!..eh..? phil(whoar.co.nz) and then in the following story you link to ‘no minister’..

perhaps you’d have to go to the national front to find a more racist/sexist/everything-ist/pile of vomit site in new zealand..

but hey..!..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: StephenR http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42692 StephenR Wed, 07 May 2008 21:01:46 +0000 http://frog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/07/some-more-8/#comment-42692 i'd read your stories if you ripped out your 'full stop' key phil i’d read your stories if you ripped out your ‘full stop’ key phil

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