The image is failed in my side, is it about unsafe food?

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I’m not sure that ‘industry’ is really going to be too keen on labelling their products country of origin (‘for the market’) if say, that country has non-existent pesticide safety rules, or ones that aren’t carried out…

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BP,
I don’t know the variety as we don’t use seed. We just save some of our better bulbs and split those up for planting stock – natural selective breeding ala Mendel.

Ash. I like your wording “Is it really safe, and is that the true cost?”

BR, my pleasure. It’s nice to see a more civilised tone here this weekend (if we ignore d4j’s incomprehensible outburst.)

Frog. Can we have a Kiwi English spell checker please – my “civilised” in the para above is highlighted but this “civilized” is not. Thanks.

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ash – that’s kinda huge. “Is it really safe, and is that the true cost?” Good measuring stick to judge purchases by. Cost, as demonstrated, can mean different things to different people. Monetary, obviously, treatment of labour force, use of bio-fuels etc. Surely if we buy NZ made, the sphere of influence we need to take into account is smaller and manageable? … i.e. NZ labour conditions and use of resources. I would hope that in our little country, we can use our voices to influence what is happening in the area of food production and labelling? Looking forward to growing garlic – yum!

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I guess my question is –

Is it really safe, and is that the true cost? (despite its tastiness I want to answer those questions before I buy and eat it)

As a person and then a consumer, the information to allow me to answer that would be invaluable.

respect

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Aunt Ruby’s German Green (tomatoes) available from King’s Seeds. Fantastic flavour. Still got a few hanging on withering vines out in the kitchen garden.

Might eat one (because they are often huge) tonight.

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Food is for the rich pricks, thanks for nothing you greenish tree buggers .
My kids starve but the politicians get fat!!!

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just read through all of todays posts. entertaining and informative. you were right, StephenR, not all bad (;

fastbike- thanks for the gardening tips. Will use (or at least pass to mum).

BluePeter – All this to and fro’ing (sp?!) and meanwhile someone could be claiming your valuable prize. Have you contacted Sue?! Better get in quick before someone gets your stuff!

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Ash, you’re just trying to keep me from my prize, which I’m certain will be substantial

>>Yeah Right!

Same with compulsory origin labeling. Most people aren’t bothered where the food comes from, so long as it is safe to eat, tastes good, and is priced right…

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> “Who said flavored tomatoes don’t count? You? In the video, Sue said “tomatoesâ€?, but offered no distinction between flavoured and plain. If there was a distinction to be made, she would should have said so. There was no qualification made about the label having to say “100% grown tomatoesâ€?, either.”

Who you said they could count? You? Sue explicitly said ‘tomatoes’ not ‘tomatoes with other ingredients’….. did she not? go figure!

Anyway, I realise you just want the prize and will take that as the reason for your open manipulation of Sue’s meaning of can of tomatoes. Though I would advise against this practice as it is dishonest.

> “What about those people who demand to know if the packers were black? Muslims? Was the product grown in the month of May?”

In the words of Tui – Yeah Right!

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Grow from cloves?

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>>you’ll find most Italian tomatoes are packed in Italy with no indication as to their country of origin

Italy, Spain, Europe. I don’t really mind, so long as they taste right.

Good idea about the garlic. Any seeds in particular you recommend, or do they all do well here?

>>And flavoured tomatoes are no more tomatoes than 1980’s “wine cooler� was wine.

Heh heh. I agree, although for the purposes of winning I prize, I disagree in terms of the frame of reference provided by the video.

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If you’re looking for good varieties of tomatoes to grow here’s some starters:
- San Manzano: a Roma type, great for sauce making and drying as it is dryish to start. Good flavour.
- Brazero (sp) and Tumbler: smallest fruit (approx 2.5cm) great flavour, ripens and crops early (outdoor grown we were eating them just after Xmas in Chch). Also a determinate variety so not essential to stake.
- C*ckatoo: heavy cropping grafted with med sized good flavoured fruit.
- Taupo: grafted very heavy cropper with med/large tasty fruit.

More practical suggestions from the Greens, unlike some of the right wing whinging I’ve read here in the last couple of days.

(frog’s spam catcha ate my last comment)

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If you’re looking for good varieties of tomatoes to grow here’s some starters:
- San Manzano: a Roma type, great for sauce making and drying as it is dryish to start. Good flavour.
- Brazero (sp) and Tumbler: smallest fruit (approx 2.5cm) great flavour, ripens and crops early (outdoor grown we were eating them just after Xmas in Chch). Also a determinate variety so not essential to stake.
- Cockatoo: heavy cropping grafted with med sized good flavoured fruit.
- Taupo: grafted very heavy cropper with med/large tasty fruit.

More practical suggestions from the Greens, unlike some of the right wing whinging I’ve read here in the last couple of days.

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And flavoured tomatoes are no more tomatoes than 1980′s “wine cooler” was wine.

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BP, you’ll find most Italian tomatoes are packed in Italy with no indication as to their country of origin. Non existant labelling laws yet again hand control to the shark-in-the-middle and deprive growers and consumers of power in the market.

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Bloody shoddy imported garlic .. grown in who knows what contaminated land, sprayed with any number of pesticides, fumigated when shipped.

Wake up folks – garlic is easy to grow. We had an awesome garlic crop last January, have more than enough to supply us with 3 large bulbs per week, giving it away to friends. You don’t need much land – just say no to imported crap – take back some of your food supply. Next crop is planted in about a month – it needs the cold weather to force it out of it’s dormancy.

P.S. Try real garlic roasted whole and then cut in half horizontally – yummy !!

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Ash,

Looks like you’re moving the goalposts

Who said flavored tomatoes don’t count? You? In the video, Sue said “tomatoes”, but offered no distinction between flavoured and plain. If there was a distinction to be made, she would should have said so. There was no qualification made about the label having to say “100% grown tomatoes”, either.

>>You’re not the only one with experience in tomatoes.

That is correct.

Most New Zealand tomatoes these days are hydroponic and the varieties leave a lot to be desired, in my view. Mostly Dutch variants, I believe.

I think most people buy on price when it comes to tinned tomatoes. I’m an exception, and not unlike you. I buy on source i.e. Italy, which, as luck would have it, also happen to be the cheapest.

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*pesto

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