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	<title>Comments on: UN calls for change in farming practices as food riots continue</title>
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	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: DougT</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/04/10/un-calls-for-change-in-farming-practices-as-food-riots-continue/#comment-41031</link>
		<dc:creator>DougT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Philippines has imported more rice than it exported this year because of money?</description>
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<p>So the Philippines has imported more rice than it exported this year because of money?</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/04/10/un-calls-for-change-in-farming-practices-as-food-riots-continue/#comment-41001</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Food Bubble:
&quot;All over the world, food fights are breaking out. Not because there is too much food or too little, but because it has gone way up in price. Of course, you could put that another way: the paper money in which food is priced is going down faster than usual. There&#039;s no less food than there was five years ago. But there is a lot more paper money. Modern central banking was invented so that we should have paper money - and have it in abundance. Now, we have so much that it is causing food prices to soar.&quot;
http://www.dailyreckoning.com/</description>
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<p>The Food Bubble:<br />
&#8220;All over the world, food fights are breaking out. Not because there is too much food or too little, but because it has gone way up in price. Of course, you could put that another way: the paper money in which food is priced is going down faster than usual. There&#8217;s no less food than there was five years ago. But there is a lot more paper money. Modern central banking was invented so that we should have paper money &#8211; and have it in abundance. Now, we have so much that it is causing food prices to soar.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.dailyreckoning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyreckoning.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DougT</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/04/10/un-calls-for-change-in-farming-practices-as-food-riots-continue/#comment-40925</link>
		<dc:creator>DougT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very lucky that we have such a word as &quot;probably&quot;.
It allows us to say optimistic things like:

&quot;If anything, we are probably an underpopulated country.&quot;

&quot;There will probably be new technology that fixes all the problems that we will face in the future&quot;</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s very lucky that we have such a word as &#8220;probably&#8221;.<br />
It allows us to say optimistic things like:</p>
<p>&#8220;If anything, we are probably an underpopulated country.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There will probably be new technology that fixes all the problems that we will face in the future&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/04/10/un-calls-for-change-in-farming-practices-as-food-riots-continue/#comment-40919</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Population&#039; is suddenly the issue of the day. The assumption behind the conference
is that excessive immigration might cause our population to exceed some optimal
level. In reality any such fears are groundless. If anything, we are probably an
underpopulated country. The demonstrated benefits from immigration mean we
could be absorbing a substantial inflow of immigrants for a good number of years
without any cause for concern about New Zealand becoming overpopulated.
&quot;Over the last two decades there has been at least a partial shift in thinking on
population issues worldwide. &lt;i&gt;No longer do the lazy assumptions that the world is
becoming overcrowded, and that increased population threatens food supply and
living standards, go unquestioned.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Rodger Kerr
http://www.nzbr.org.nz/documents/speeches/speeches-97/population-and-immigration.pdf

Something the &quot;redgreens&quot; and right agree on?</description>
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<p>&#8216;Population&#8217; is suddenly the issue of the day. The assumption behind the conference<br />
is that excessive immigration might cause our population to exceed some optimal<br />
level. In reality any such fears are groundless. If anything, we are probably an<br />
underpopulated country. The demonstrated benefits from immigration mean we<br />
could be absorbing a substantial inflow of immigrants for a good number of years<br />
without any cause for concern about New Zealand becoming overpopulated.<br />
&#8220;Over the last two decades there has been at least a partial shift in thinking on<br />
population issues worldwide. <i>No longer do the lazy assumptions that the world is<br />
becoming overcrowded, and that increased population threatens food supply and<br />
living standards, go unquestioned.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Rodger Kerr<br />
<a href="http://www.nzbr.org.nz/documents/speeches/speeches-97/population-and-immigration.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzbr.org.nz/documents/speeches/speeches-97/population-and-immigration.pdf</a></p>
<p>Something the &#8220;redgreens&#8221; and right agree on?</p>
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		<title>By: DougT</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/04/10/un-calls-for-change-in-farming-practices-as-food-riots-continue/#comment-40873</link>
		<dc:creator>DougT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why the greens should be pushing the issue of sustainable population too.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s why the greens should be pushing the issue of sustainable population too.</p>
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		<title>By: dbuckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbuckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When pressed on the subject, the Green Party point out they don&#039;t support all biofuels, just some biofuels.

The problem is that the issue isn&#039;t seen in terms that subtle, and thus it will be a big problem for the Greens sooner or later.  They are seen as supporting biofuels, and when the biofuel fan gets really brown the Greens will be seen as part of the problem.

Or to put it another way, bio == &quot;supported by the green party&quot;...</description>
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<p>When pressed on the subject, the Green Party point out they don&#8217;t support all biofuels, just some biofuels.</p>
<p>The problem is that the issue isn&#8217;t seen in terms that subtle, and thus it will be a big problem for the Greens sooner or later.  They are seen as supporting biofuels, and when the biofuel fan gets really brown the Greens will be seen as part of the problem.</p>
<p>Or to put it another way, bio == &#8220;supported by the green party&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DougT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony of biofuels is that if and when oil finally stops being used, food will still need to be mass produced using machinery that requires fuel.  

The answer seems to be biofuel, which requires crop land to produce. 

So to produce the high crop yields, you still need the machinery, but to use the machinery you need to produce biofuel crops which reduce the food crops.

I think the only solution is for the the skeptics to prove that the world is actually getting bigger.

I tried to find a website that could prove that the world is getting bigger, but unfortunately this is was the best I could find

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=2315516&amp;page=1

I&#039;d say the skeptics will have a field day with that article though.</description>
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<p>The irony of biofuels is that if and when oil finally stops being used, food will still need to be mass produced using machinery that requires fuel.  </p>
<p>The answer seems to be biofuel, which requires crop land to produce. </p>
<p>So to produce the high crop yields, you still need the machinery, but to use the machinery you need to produce biofuel crops which reduce the food crops.</p>
<p>I think the only solution is for the the skeptics to prove that the world is actually getting bigger.</p>
<p>I tried to find a website that could prove that the world is getting bigger, but unfortunately this is was the best I could find</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=2315516&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=2315516&#038;page=1</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the skeptics will have a field day with that article though.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are the greens still pimping bio-fuels..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
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<p>why are the greens still pimping bio-fuels..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The combination of our rapidly growing population and the impact of unsustainable biofuels on food prices, huh? Got to love it =/</description>
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<p>The combination of our rapidly growing population and the impact of unsustainable biofuels on food prices, huh? Got to love it =/</p>
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