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	<title>Comments on: Rob Hamill launches &#8216;Proud to be Green&#8217; billboards</title>
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39239</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not-being-prosecuted-for-terrorism-because-they-aren&#039;t-terrorists shock! We will see a very diverse group in the docks at some stage, should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not-being-prosecuted-for-terrorism-because-they-aren&#8217;t-terrorists shock! We will see a very diverse group in the docks at some stage, should be interesting.
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39224</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Green party has linked the fortunes of its sustainability policies to the favorite chestnuts of a bunch of (unpopular) radicals. It&#039;s called deception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Green party has linked the fortunes of its sustainability policies to the favorite chestnuts of a bunch of (unpopular) radicals. It&#8217;s called deception.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon</a>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39222</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œWe are proud to be the voice in Parliament for sustainability, justice, peace and democracy. And we are proud that other well-known New Zealanders support us,â€? says Jeanette Fitzsimons, Green Party Co-Leader. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Locke delighted by Crownâ€™s terrorism decision&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/PR11368.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/PR11368.html</a></p>
<p>Why the need for all those weapons?<br />
<a href="http://newzeal.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://newzeal.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>If the (allegedly) &#8220;Green Party&#8221; really was Green (as in concerned about the environment) it wouldn&#8217;t link its progress to the base values and opinions of Kieth Locke, Sue Bradford and Meteria Turie. Despite &#8220;frog week&#8221; nothing changes.
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39178</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh. Pinkos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh. Pinkos!
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39171</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, in case any readers want to make their own minds up about the number, importance and topic of the Green Party&#039;s achievements in Parliament:

http://www.greens.org.nz/about/achievements.htm

To my mind, the list of achievements is impressive, and composed of a wide range of issues that defy a simplistic environmental issue vs social justice issue categorisation. But, hey make your own mind up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, in case any readers want to make their own minds up about the number, importance and topic of the Green Party&#8217;s achievements in Parliament:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/about/achievements.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.greens.org.nz/about/achievements.htm</a></p>
<p>To my mind, the list of achievements is impressive, and composed of a wide range of issues that defy a simplistic environmental issue vs social justice issue categorisation. But, hey make your own mind up.
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39170</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yawn ... cracked record time again from BB. 

I doubt you can find a single Green who will tell you that that has been our biggest achievement, let alone most of them. 

Plus it&#039;s not true, we are not keeping the govt in power, United Future and NZ First are. Not to mention that the govt are not left anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn &#8230; cracked record time again from BB. </p>
<p>I doubt you can find a single Green who will tell you that that has been our biggest achievement, let alone most of them. </p>
<p>Plus it&#8217;s not true, we are not keeping the govt in power, United Future and NZ First are. Not to mention that the govt are not left anyway.
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39165</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndrewE

Sadly most of the Green party will tell you that their biggest achievement has been to keep the left in power.

It used to be about Green issues, these days it is about &quot;social justice&quot; and hard left political goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndrewE</p>
<p>Sadly most of the Green party will tell you that their biggest achievement has been to keep the left in power.</p>
<p>It used to be about Green issues, these days it is about &#8220;social justice&#8221; and hard left political goals.
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		<title>By: AndrewE</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39164</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked up green achievements and there appear to be bugger all after 8 years.  There are plenty of non environmental achievements but have you achieved any MAJOR environmental goals?

It worries me as I like the idea of being green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked up green achievements and there appear to be bugger all after 8 years.  There are plenty of non environmental achievements but have you achieved any MAJOR environmental goals?</p>
<p>It worries me as I like the idea of being green.
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		<title>By: StephenR</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39156</link>
		<dc:creator>StephenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think &#039;abstaining on confidence and supply issues&#039; constitutes &quot;the balance of power&quot; AndrewE. Look up &#039;green achievements&#039; I guess.

I too would like a lot more &#039;environmental&#039; success, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to hold a major party to ransom like that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8216;abstaining on confidence and supply issues&#8217; constitutes &#8220;the balance of power&#8221; AndrewE. Look up &#8216;green achievements&#8217; I guess.</p>
<p>I too would like a lot more &#8216;environmental&#8217; success, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to hold a major party to ransom like that&#8230;
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peterquixote - in case you haven&#039;t noticed, fwwog actually in opposition &lt;b&gt;now&lt;/b&gt;, Greens no part of government, but still achieving heaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peterquixote &#8211; in case you haven&#8217;t noticed, fwwog actually in opposition <b>now</b>, Greens no part of government, but still achieving heaps.
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		<title>By: peterquixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterquixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fwwog, everyone love green now ,look even Rodney attending green classes, fwwog  the next election will be about by the remaining NZ assets, so far we have not been able to convince Key that he could lose this election on this issue alone, but we will fwwog we will convince him and then Bill have to take the rap, but yous in opposition soon unless yous move now fwwog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fwwog, everyone love green now ,look even Rodney attending green classes, fwwog  the next election will be about by the remaining NZ assets, so far we have not been able to convince Key that he could lose this election on this issue alone, but we will fwwog we will convince him and then Bill have to take the rap, but yous in opposition soon unless yous move now fwwog
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		<title>By: AndrewE</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39129</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with BigBro above.

Have the Greens achieved anything significant with regards to the environment?  

You have the balance of power and we still have pigs in crates and battery hens.

I honestly think that a vote for the greens is a waste as you seem more interested in non environmental issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with BigBro above.</p>
<p>Have the Greens achieved anything significant with regards to the environment?  </p>
<p>You have the balance of power and we still have pigs in crates and battery hens.</p>
<p>I honestly think that a vote for the greens is a waste as you seem more interested in non environmental issues.
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		<title>By: Gerrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39123</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB,

There is no way any political party will accept your donation with those terms attached.  

Add a few noughts to your figure and what would you like, NZ representative in Monaco?  A gong?

We bemoan political donations in return for friendly policy decisions.

Yours is one, and while not large, it would still be corruption on the part of the Greens if they were to accept it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB,</p>
<p>There is no way any political party will accept your donation with those terms attached.  </p>
<p>Add a few noughts to your figure and what would you like, NZ representative in Monaco?  A gong?</p>
<p>We bemoan political donations in return for friendly policy decisions.</p>
<p>Yours is one, and while not large, it would still be corruption on the part of the Greens if they were to accept it.
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39122</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad

I will also donate to the Greens (and give you both of my votes) as soon as you get this bloody govt to do something about pigs in crates and battery hens.

For gods sake you managed to twist their arm over the disgusting smacking bill and given that you caved into them over the EFB the sods owe you one.

I will not accept the lame excuse that you are waiting for the bill to be drawn from the ballot, get Clark to make it govt business, if you threatened to withdraw support she will make it happen.
Now is the best chance you have to get this through, should you not make the 5% threshold next time around we both know that neither of the main parities will do anything about it.

There you go, a $1000 donation (Anonymous of course) and two votes, that should be enough to get things going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad</p>
<p>I will also donate to the Greens (and give you both of my votes) as soon as you get this bloody govt to do something about pigs in crates and battery hens.</p>
<p>For gods sake you managed to twist their arm over the disgusting smacking bill and given that you caved into them over the EFB the sods owe you one.</p>
<p>I will not accept the lame excuse that you are waiting for the bill to be drawn from the ballot, get Clark to make it govt business, if you threatened to withdraw support she will make it happen.<br />
Now is the best chance you have to get this through, should you not make the 5% threshold next time around we both know that neither of the main parities will do anything about it.</p>
<p>There you go, a $1000 donation (Anonymous of course) and two votes, that should be enough to get things going.
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39118</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB - I, and the Green Party, are complying with the existing law.

I know you are not happy with that law.  Nor am I, but for different reasons.  But t is, IMO, betterthan what  we had before.

I&#039;m not setting out to hide anything, I just don&#039;t think I need to publicly disclose details that I&#039;m not legally required to disclose. 

If you want to know how much I&#039;ve spent supporting the Greens since the EFA came into force, BB, then publish an email address I can contact you through on froglog.  I&#039;ll then tell you personally, provided you agree to not publish that information.

Same goes for others, I&#039;m not a wealthy person, so have nothing to hide.  I make my small donations to the Greens when I feel I can afford it. FF sake, my AP is only $20 a week. 

Anyone else eho may want to contribute to the Green coffers, go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greens.org.nz/office/donate.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.greens.org.nz/office/donate.htm&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB &#8211; I, and the Green Party, are complying with the existing law.</p>
<p>I know you are not happy with that law.  Nor am I, but for different reasons.  But t is, IMO, betterthan what  we had before.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not setting out to hide anything, I just don&#8217;t think I need to publicly disclose details that I&#8217;m not legally required to disclose. </p>
<p>If you want to know how much I&#8217;ve spent supporting the Greens since the EFA came into force, BB, then publish an email address I can contact you through on froglog.  I&#8217;ll then tell you personally, provided you agree to not publish that information.</p>
<p>Same goes for others, I&#8217;m not a wealthy person, so have nothing to hide.  I make my small donations to the Greens when I feel I can afford it. FF sake, my AP is only $20 a week. </p>
<p>Anyone else eho may want to contribute to the Green coffers, go to <a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/office/donate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.greens.org.nz/office/donate.htm</a>.
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39117</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB

 The new rules put a spike in the anonymous donations.  Hopefully it will work.  It wasn&#039;t my preferred method but it has a chance.  

The OLD rules pitted big money against big money.  The Union&#039;s money vs the Industrialist&#039;s money.  The point of the exercise will be made more clear in this election when both the Unions and the Industrialists have to abide by the new rules.  

You can&#039;t compare what was the case, which included big money from both sides (and don&#039;t EVEN begin to tell me that the Union expenditures weren&#039;t mentioned by DPF et.al. ). with what the new law will do.  Not valid.  Will the Unions (which were always up front about donating) be stifled?  No more or less than the other donors to other parties. 

The competing claims of &quot;favoritism&quot; in media coverage and in financial resourcing are symptoms of the trouble that comes of letting the money talk in the first place.  

I don&#039;t know who is telling you how to think and what to think.    I haven&#039;t noticed anyone telling me how to think.  It&#039;s clearly not a very effective campaign if it exists... 

What I have noticed is some laws that restrict how I act.   Smoking in the pub,  using Marijuana, S59 repeal.  There are a lot of things involved here, but they haven&#039;t once tried to tell me what to think.  

respectfully
BJ 

[[  who reckons that anyone who tells you what OR how to think will get an earful of something :-)  ]]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB</p>
<p> The new rules put a spike in the anonymous donations.  Hopefully it will work.  It wasn&#8217;t my preferred method but it has a chance.  </p>
<p>The OLD rules pitted big money against big money.  The Union&#8217;s money vs the Industrialist&#8217;s money.  The point of the exercise will be made more clear in this election when both the Unions and the Industrialists have to abide by the new rules.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t compare what was the case, which included big money from both sides (and don&#8217;t EVEN begin to tell me that the Union expenditures weren&#8217;t mentioned by DPF et.al. ). with what the new law will do.  Not valid.  Will the Unions (which were always up front about donating) be stifled?  No more or less than the other donors to other parties. </p>
<p>The competing claims of &#8220;favoritism&#8221; in media coverage and in financial resourcing are symptoms of the trouble that comes of letting the money talk in the first place.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who is telling you how to think and what to think.    I haven&#8217;t noticed anyone telling me how to think.  It&#8217;s clearly not a very effective campaign if it exists&#8230; </p>
<p>What I have noticed is some laws that restrict how I act.   Smoking in the pub,  using Marijuana, S59 repeal.  There are a lot of things involved here, but they haven&#8217;t once tried to tell me what to think.  </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ </p>
<p>[[  who reckons that anyone who tells you what OR how to think will get an earful of something <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   ]]
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39116</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad

You should publish a complete list, after all you chaps are the ones who supported this disgusting and undemocratic bill, you should be seen to be whiter than white.

Or are the rules different for those from the left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad</p>
<p>You should publish a complete list, after all you chaps are the ones who supported this disgusting and undemocratic bill, you should be seen to be whiter than white.</p>
<p>Or are the rules different for those from the left?
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39115</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bj

With respect that is rubbish, the unions spend &quot;big money&quot; and not a word is said.
Owen Glen spends &quot;big money&quot; so we give the sod a gong and a diplomatic position.

This is not about big money and it never will be, this is all about the lefts desire to control free speech and freedom in general.

Already in NZ we are told how to think and what to think, now you want to stop (and have done so for a short time) people spending their money the way they want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bj</p>
<p>With respect that is rubbish, the unions spend &#8220;big money&#8221; and not a word is said.<br />
Owen Glen spends &#8220;big money&#8221; so we give the sod a gong and a diplomatic position.</p>
<p>This is not about big money and it never will be, this is all about the lefts desire to control free speech and freedom in general.</p>
<p>Already in NZ we are told how to think and what to think, now you want to stop (and have done so for a short time) people spending their money the way they want to.
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39113</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, I donated $100 this weekend.  I won&#039;t have to appear on the donors list unless I donate another $900.01  The disclosure rule applies only to donations in excess of $1000.

I may eventually have to disclose a name and address, because I also pay an automatic payment to the Party, but for now it can be Toad of Toad Hall, 42 Willowbank Drive, Toadsville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, I donated $100 this weekend.  I won&#8217;t have to appear on the donors list unless I donate another $900.01  The disclosure rule applies only to donations in excess of $1000.</p>
<p>I may eventually have to disclose a name and address, because I also pay an automatic payment to the Party, but for now it can be Toad of Toad Hall, 42 Willowbank Drive, Toadsville.
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/07/rob-hamill-launches-proud-to-be-green-billboards/#comment-39111</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No BB,...   the whole purpose of the EFB is to stifle &quot;big money&#039;s&quot; ability to speak out.  

Which might be the &quot;right&quot; in some cases but there is nothing in the law about &quot;right&quot; and &quot;left&quot;.  It is entirely about money and its ability to influence elections.  If the right relies more heavily on its ability to buy good advertising than on its ability to come up with good policies and good ideas then it has a problem.   

The problem is not however, the EFB.  

BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No BB,&#8230;   the whole purpose of the EFB is to stifle &#8220;big money&#8217;s&#8221; ability to speak out.  </p>
<p>Which might be the &#8220;right&#8221; in some cases but there is nothing in the law about &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;left&#8221;.  It is entirely about money and its ability to influence elections.  If the right relies more heavily on its ability to buy good advertising than on its ability to come up with good policies and good ideas then it has a problem.   </p>
<p>The problem is not however, the EFB.  </p>
<p>BJ
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